Netcup Generation 8 Root Servers

Ympker

Are live now! You might wanna check it out
Starting from:

CPU: 2 dedicates cores of Intel® Xeon® Gold 6140

RAM 8 GB DDR4 ECC

Disk Space (SAS highly recommended as they explicitly have stated that their SAS IO has once more been improved)

40 GB SSD / 320 GB

RAID-Level
RAID10

Network: 1 Gbit/s

Uptime: 99,99%

Price from: 6,99€/mo

ehab

and now who will be the first for geekbench maybe @Falzo when see's the cpu will become so tempted and bites

Ympker

@Falzo bait

ehab

if we shout enough to him @Falzo

elliotc

Small monster.

eramax

thanks

FHR

Around 2000 single thread PassMark points. Not bad

NanoG6

where is the link?

Element

https://www.netcup.de/vserver/

NanoG6

@Element said:
https://www.netcup.de/vserver/

Ah.. I visited netcup.eu. Didn't know there are two domains of them

fxf

On average, you have a bandwidth of at least 200 Mbps, provided the root server has a 1 Gbps network card. If more than 80 TB of traffic is consumed within one month and an average of more than 80 MBit / s bandwidth is occupied over a period of more than 60 minutes, the network connection of the root server can be limited to a minimum of 10 MBit / s, to other customers no disadvantage arises.

Having trouble making sense of the policy. Using 80Mbps constantly gets you a bit under 30TB/mo. There's no way to come close to the 80TB/mo upper limit. Seeing that that's the case, they should really advertise an 80PB/mo limit.

donli

From their Facebook page:

A long time she was expected, now it's here: The Generation 8 of our root server!

The most important advance: the new offers offer 25 % more memory, more CPU CORES (from Rs 4000) and more including traffic (80 TB / month) Prices Remain the same compared to the previous generation.

We can increase the io throughput even further in the SAS variant. We will now use the double number of spindles in the raid network and use 10 K-SAS hard drives.

With Intel ® Xeon ® Gold 6140 CPU, we can load entire four sockets and have a better price / performance than comparable servers with amd Cpus. For these good conditions we have been negotiating with our suppliers for a long time In the end we decided for power-Edge servers from Dell.

Also with the new root servers we track the approach to combining the advantages of virtual and dedicated servers. With The Generation 8 we succeeded in pursuing this goal consistently. The Large Rs 8000 stands with its 14 dedicated CPU CORES AND 64 gb ram in competition with dedicated servers that are sold for just under 100 euros per month. However, the Rs 8000 offers much more io throughput and a larger range of functions. With a monthly price of 44,99 euros, it costs less than half as a similar dedicated server.

Further details on the new offers can be obtained from our press release published today:

https://www.netcup-news.de/2018/05/02/mehr-arbeitsspeicher-mehr-traffic-und-mehr-cpu-leistung-bei-gleichbleibendem-preis-netcup-praesentiert-neue-root-server-der-generation-8/

lion

I wonder if you could use the cores 24/7 now and won't get throttled even though they're "dedicated"

neik

@fxf said:

On average, you have a bandwidth of at least 200 Mbps, provided the root server has a 1 Gbps network card. If more than 80 TB of traffic is consumed within one month and an average of more than 80 MBit / s bandwidth is occupied over a period of more than 60 minutes, the network connection of the root server can be limited to a minimum of 10 MBit / s, to other customers no disadvantage arises.

Having trouble making sense of the policy. Using 80Mbps constantly gets you a bit under 30TB/mo. There's no way to come close to the 80TB/mo upper limit. Seeing that that's the case, they should really advertise an 80PB/mo limit.

That's exactly at what I pointed in their forum. Still awaiting an answer.

Don't know how this is called in english but that limit is a bit like clickbait on some news pages.

Honestly, I don't think Netcup needs this, they have great products and good prices as well.

Anyways...

Levi

Do they offer directadmin and additional IP's with those packages?

pullangcubo

Dammit! When can we finally see these kinds of specs with these prices in North America from a reliable provider with a proven track record?

Is the end nigh?

Sven

I just received my RS 8000 G8. Looks great so far.
Here is the geekbench4 result: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8142019

chrisp

@lion said:
I wonder if you could use the cores 24/7 now and won't get throttled even though they're "dedicated"

When I picked a dedicated CPU box a few months ago CPU performance was very good at first, but dropped heavily after a few days. You cannot really know how good it is until the node is completely filled up and until everyone started their processes.

jam

why english website version not showing new plans ?

Ympker

@jam said:
why english website version not showing new plans ?

Because netcup is originally a german company and the news I posted were related to the german fb post they made which someone posted above. German website has priority for them.

FHR

neik said: Don't know how this is called in english

Bait and switch, or simply false advertising

Falzo

@Ympker said:
@Falzo bait

@ehab said:
if we shout enough to him @Falzo

haha, thanks guys! the offers look good... 10 core, 32 GB, hmm ;-)

yet IPs are not so cheap, and maybe one still would need to pay extra for nested virt enabled... so not sooo tempted. I think they are also going with those CPUs to reach a higher density and I doubt the single machine to be much more powerful compared to the older ones once the nodes are filled...

after all not tempted yet, esp. not by keeping in mind that ordering one will have me agree to their newer terms which would then forbid mining on my BF vps :-P

at least not worth to try just for balls and at the moment I don't have a real use case.

@fxf said:

On average, you have a bandwidth of at least 200 Mbps, provided the root server has a 1 Gbps network card. If more than 80 TB of traffic is consumed within one month and an average of more than 80 MBit / s bandwidth is occupied over a period of more than 60 minutes, the network connection of the root server can be limited to a minimum of 10 MBit / s, to other customers no disadvantage arises.

Having trouble making sense of the policy. Using 80Mbps constantly gets you a bit under 30TB/mo. There's no way to come close to the 80TB/mo upper limit. Seeing that that's the case, they should really advertise an 80PB/mo limit.

I think you got it a bit wrong. you can do 80TB at full speed (200Mbps guaranteed), the 80 Mbps limit only kicks in after that

the thing with the 80TB bandwidth seems more of a typo to me (80mbps/80TB) probably more something along the lines of 20 or maybe 40 ...

neik

@Falzo said:

@Ympker said:
@Falzo bait

@ehab said:
if we shout enough to him @Falzo

haha, thanks guys! the offers look good... 10 core, 32 GB, hmm ;-)

yet IPs are not so cheap, and maybe one still would need to pay extra for nested virt enabled... so not sooo tempted. I think they are also going with those CPUs to reach a higher density and I doubt the single machine to be much more powerful compared to the older ones once the nodes are filled...

after all not tempted yet, esp. not by keeping in mind that ordering one will have me agree to their newer terms which would then forbid mining on my BF vps :-P

at least not worth to try just for balls and at the moment I don't have a real use case.

@fxf said:

On average, you have a bandwidth of at least 200 Mbps, provided the root server has a 1 Gbps network card. If more than 80 TB of traffic is consumed within one month and an average of more than 80 MBit / s bandwidth is occupied over a period of more than 60 minutes, the network connection of the root server can be limited to a minimum of 10 MBit / s, to other customers no disadvantage arises.

Having trouble making sense of the policy. Using 80Mbps constantly gets you a bit under 30TB/mo. There's no way to come close to the 80TB/mo upper limit. Seeing that that's the case, they should really advertise an 80PB/mo limit.

I think you got it a bit wrong. you can do 80TB at full speed (200Mbps guaranteed), the 80 Mbps limit only kicks in after that

the thing with the 80TB bandwidth seems more of a typo to me (80mbps/80TB) probably more something along the lines of 20 or maybe 40 ...

That's exactly how it was before only with 80TB of traffic instead of 20TB. So, you will be limited to 10Mbit/s if your average is higher than 80Mbit/s for more than a hour.

Falzo

neik said: So, you will be limited to 10Mbit/s if your average is higher than 80Mbit/s for more than a hour.

but only after you burned through 80TB beforehand... who will even come close to that?

Ympker

@Falzo said:

neik said: So, you will be limited to 10Mbit/s if your average is higher than 80Mbit/s for more than a hour.

but only after you burned through 80TB beforehand... who will even come close to that?

P*rnHub

Ponury_Typ

@Sven said:
I just received my RS 8000 G8. Looks great so far.
Here is the geekbench4 result: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8142019

Those got a better multi-score that my home nods with 2x 2670 v2. God dammit, i need to upgrade my homelab again -.-

Element

@Ponury_Typ said:

@Sven said:
I just received my RS 8000 G8. Looks great so far.
Here is the geekbench4 result: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8142019

Those got a better multi-score that my home nods with 2x 2670 v2. God dammit, i need to upgrade my homelab again -.-

again and again and again!

qtwrk

what I always hated about netcup is , their CPU is low MHz , about 2.4 GHz , I'd rather have less cores with higher frequency ...

realbusiness

How does Netcup's latest offering compare with Hetzner?

Levi

Netcup sales are horrible. Insanely broken english and 3 word sentence answers, worse than cociu. Hope their servers is good

ehab

@LTniger said:

i must say cociu has charms... i like him more than vel 8.