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@Clouvider That's only been a requirement for posting "Offer" threads, or has that since changed? Otherwise, I wouldn't have been able to do my "Virmach Fire Sale for Vets" thread, even if I did start it on the "no rules" day.
This whole situation is fucked, but it looks like you went after ramnet without just cause. That's my take on it.
Indeed.
My point is that @ramnet's refugee offer may be of interest to those with a 256MB RAM KVM plan at ServerHand (though there's still a difference of disk space: 15GB at ServerHand vs 7GB at tinykvm.com), but it's unlikely to attract those who have a bigger KVM at ServerHand.
I wouldn't call pointing out that @ramnet doesn't have a provider tag 'going after' them. I also do not need to know every provider on the planet. Apologies if that insulted @ramnet, you or anyone else.
I find, however, a 3rd party doing some sort of announcement on behalf @ServerHand highly unprofessional.
similarly @falzo posting netcup offers too .
I think ramnet should apply for providers tag asap , probably missed this change
I have to agree with this regardless of who is involved, I mean I seen this
And also thought this.
And then this
Made me think that client data has been handed over. I mean it's not hard for someone to provide evidence of a refund if they wanted to go to Ramnet without any client data being transferred.
Again, bottom line, anyone can offer a refugee on evidence of a refund, no client data needed.
I do apologize for the lack of provider tag, I hadn't realized that was a thing now, and I've already submitted a request for one to the helpdesk.
Also, just to clarify, I do not have any copy of the ServerHand client database. I merely ask the owner on each order to confirm if anyone taking advantage of the refugee offer is qualified.
We are endorsed by and have full cooperation with ServerHand for doing this refugee deal. I would not have posted it otherwise.
Seriously dude, is there anything you don't bitch about?
Ramone is offering 6 months of free service and you still bitch ffs.
Go ahead and do yours. I'm sure there a whole lot of solid providers lining out to offer free service.
We have a bit of a cunt here, what other account do you have, this is not your first is it.
@ramnet your status page seems to be different from when you wrote https://www.ramhost.us/?page=vps-not-oversold
No graphs, just smiley faces.
Not your "dude" if you dont mind. It would be just nice if rules would apply to everyone and if you had paid just a bit of attention you would have noticed it wasnt me who bitched but MrPsycho, but such details a probably not important.
I do enjoy warm cunt, I'm not even picky on the time of the day, I like it in the morning, after lunch... before night nigh time... I like fast food style and I like take your time style.. I just don't like it Tantric style, I leave that for you, now be a doll and when time is ripe. send it to me. I'll enjoy that one too.
Thanks.
Dude, stop bitching over someone offering free service.
What are you on?
Serverhand's lap clearly.
As long as its warm and cosy there ....
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For some reason, I'm not surprised that @WSS old cheap tricks have rubbed on you as a pathetic attack to use when you can't seem to disagree with someone's else point of view. Calling someone a re-reg, or suggesting that is not their first account, seems to be the go-to choice for people like you that have lost the ability to make strong compelling arguments. You have even started to display works like "cunt" all over your posts. That must make you proud that you have amassed thousands of posts here and that you have the ability to accuse someone of multiple accounts on newly members.
@404error does make a compelling argument, and we both agree that what happened to @ServerHand was just a misfortune and an error in the fraud cases that would come. Heck @ServerHand literally only had 30 customers at most, then suddenly gained a few hundred in the span of 2 weeks. How the heck was that guy supposed to even know what was happening to him. In the business world you learn from your mistakes, nobody is perfect.
On top of that, @ramnet has lined up to make special refugees packages for those affected by @ServerHand actions. Yet, I don't see any other providers from this forum lining up and trying to offer some help to those clients that possibly won't get a full refund.
@IAlwaysBeCoding solution is simple.
You don’t process the orders, or you have no intention to, you hit the refund button. You don’t have to deal with the fraud, chargeback fees, and other unpleasant consequences of being a high risk merchant that result from people feeling they’ve been cheated. It would be dickish move, but still much more fair than what appears to be singling out a single nation and blaming all the bad in the world on them.
@ServerHand outright refused it, I think @Lee proposed it, and the response was “Sorry I cant do it’, he dug his own hole, and kept digging it, so no, you can’t excuse him in that way.
It's my way, I lose interest in any intellectual argument with people like him or indeed you.
Nah, he seen an opportunity, not an act of kindness.
In truth, it's a bit of both.
There isn't a whole lot of money to be made giving away free service. On the other hand, being a good responsible company in the industry has certain marketing benefits.
Sometimes doing what is right is more important than doing what is profitable.
I will give you that :P
Intellectual argument, chuckle. Sure mate.
He was trying to offload these clients on WHT before there was any mention of it here.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1686414
So the plan was to dump them, but nobody was going to take them as the clients already paid upfront and I suspect he was not going to compensate anyone who showed interest.
And I doubt he was going to tell those clients beforehand that their personal details were getting transferred on.
How many total customers are there, and how many signups (fake or real) are you getting?
Because it would be like 20 lines of PHP code to make a page on serverhand's whmcs server that checks whether a given email address is registered, is marked as active and has a pre-defined package id.
It wouldn't be worth the hassle if we are talking about 10 customers here, but if it's going towards 100+ manual checks, that might ultimately save time.
Honestly, not many. ServerHand was never a big company in any case.
WHT post says they are looking to offload one server with 100 Customers, that probably is the server with @QuadraNet_Adam this is the one he tried to get rid of so desperately.
Yeah, looks like Quadranet was suggesting a ridiculous upgrade for his $10 pa clients.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1684688&p=9974557#post9974557
QuadraNet can’t be blamed for his choices. They provide HW, he was the one that was supposed to plan and figure out a way to monetise it, after all he is the provider. If he couldn’t, he should have not taken it up, simple as that. It’s. Itching about overt or undercharging. You can either afford something or not, simple as that.
I can understand the excitement that comes from a large number of signups at once for a new company. Though it is a good lesson to not expand beyond your means, especially for cheap yearly paying customers. Sometimes slow consistent growth is better. If you need to put your services out of stock for a little while that is ok.