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  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    @randvegeta said:

    exception0x876 said: something is off with your software config....

    I'm using identical config for both test rigs. Everything but hardware is identical.

    What about the threads count?

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    exception0x876 said: something is off with your software config....

    Now testing on an i7-2600, which is older than the i3 (from 2011!) and it's getting 30-40% greater hashrate.

    Meanwhile the E3 is running 20-30% slower.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep
    edited September 2017

    exception0x876 said: What about the threads count?

    i3 - 4 threads
    E3 - 8 threads
    i7- 8 threads

  • @randvegeta said:

    exception0x876 said: something is off with your software config....

    Now testing on an i7-2600, which is older than the i3 (from 2011!) and it's getting 30-40% greater hashrate.

    Meanwhile the E3 is running 20-30% slower.

    Try http://monerobenchmarks.info/searchCPU.php afaik it's user submited hashrate

  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    @randvegeta said:

    exception0x876 said: What about the threads count?

    i3 - 4 threads
    E3 - 8 threads
    i7- 8 threads

    Try with i3 - 2 threads, others - 4 threads. It is 2MB of L3 cache per thread for XMR.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    exception0x876 said: Try with i3 - 2 threads, others - 4 threads. It is 2MB of L3 cache per thread for XMR.

    Indeed there is a significant hasrate improvement.

    i7 went from about 130H/s to 260H/s
    E3 went from 75H/s to 250H/s

    However the i3 has been reduced from 100H/s to 80H/s.

    These are interesting results and not at all what I would have expected. It surprises me that the old i7 can still outperform a new E3.

  • At current XMR ratio, mining at 250H/s (assuming you rented E3) will give you approximately $14 per month and a huge karma black hole. If you're rather going to pay for electricity by yourself, the profit is just negative (like -$3/mon). That's basically all you need to know about server CPU mining these days.

  • randvegeta said: 250H/s

    As you're paying $0.15 per KW/h:

    You'll be:
    + Mining ~$14.50
    - Electricity ~$25 (Single PSU)
    = Net Loss ~$7 a month
  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    @Aidan said:

    randvegeta said: 250H/s

    As you're paying $0.15 per KW/h:

    You'll be:
    > + Mining ~$14.50
    > - Electricity ~$25 (Single PSU)
    > = Net Loss ~$7 a month

    Probably more than 0.15 since you need to consider cooling costs too.

    I'm not actually trying to mine, just curious. Seems it's not economical to mine let alone lease a server for mining.

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  • @randvegeta said:

    @Aidan said:

    randvegeta said: 250H/s

    As you're paying $0.15 per KW/h:

    You'll be:
    > > + Mining ~$14.50
    > > - Electricity ~$25 (Single PSU)
    > > = Net Loss ~$7 a month

    Probably more than 0.15 since you need to consider cooling costs too.

    I'm not actually trying to mine, just curious. Seems it's not economical to mine let alone lease a server for mining.

    That's what I have said to you in the previous post. Mining is generally not profitable, unless server cost is free like cheating a lot of trial account on cloud services such as DO, Vultr and especially Google cloud and Amazon.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    randvegeta said: For one, there are hundreds of Cryptocoins out there

    My young daughter sometimes takes construction paper, cuts it into rectangles, draws a picture and number on each one, and tells me she has made new money.

    The cryptocurrency scene is pretty much the same thing.

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  • @raindog308 said:

    randvegeta said: For one, there are hundreds of Cryptocoins out there

    My young daughter sometimes takes construction paper, cuts it into rectangles, draws a picture and number on each one, and tells me she has made new money.

    The cryptocurrency scene is pretty much the same thing.

    Actually it's only true for shit coins. Bitcoin and etherium are really valuable. Their value lies on their behind technology. However they are open source so they are being cloned to create a lot of shit coins which don't contribute any technology value.

  • MasonRMasonR Community Contributor

    Just realized I had quite a few GridCoin stashed away from going hard on BOINC last summer. Looks like the value jumped in the past few months and I have about $130 saved up.

    I feel like that's the virtual equivalent to finding money in your pocket that you didn't know was there.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    levnode said: Bitcoin and etherium are really valuable

    No they aren't. The 'value' is only what people agree on.

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  • RhysRhys Member, Host Rep

    @randvegeta said:

    levnode said: Bitcoin and etherium are really valuable

    No they aren't. The 'value' is only what people agree on.

    You just described the value of literally everything.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    Rhys said: You just described the value of literally everything

    You're right. I don't mean to say that BTC or Etherium is as valuable as what people agree on. It is far less valuable IMO, and so it is currently overvalued.

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    Hmm..

    Does anyone know of mining with an ARM CPU is worth while?

  • @randvegeta said:
    Does anyone know of mining with an ARM CPU is worth while?

    As long as it's ARMv6. They've got the fastest datapath, and are less likely to melt off the board.

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    Old i7 vs new E3

    Apples vs Oranges

    I7 is a desktop CPU it has completely different use-case and feature-set then E3.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    Rhys said: You just described the value of literally everything.

    Except LowEndTalk. We are, by broad scientific consensus, completely without value.

  • it's probably more profitable to embed some js miners on websites like the pirate bay did over the weekend than actually renting out rigs to mine yourself

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  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    @paco said:
    it's probably more profitable to embed some js miners on websites like the pirate bay did over the weekend than actually renting out rigs to mine yourself

    Oh that is brilliant!

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @paco said:
    it's probably more profitable to embed some js miners on websites like the pirate bay did over the weekend than actually renting out rigs to mine yourself

    "Why is LET always make my CPU run at 100%"

    Francisco

  • @Francisco said:

    @paco said:
    it's probably more profitable to embed some js miners on websites like the pirate bay did over the weekend than actually renting out rigs to mine yourself

    "Why is LET always make my CPU run at 100%"

    Francisco

    because you've potato pc. Not LET's fault.
    (let's keep this secret, 50-50?)

  • ...that explains why Groupon always pisses off Chrome.

  • TBH, I was trying to implement something like this few days back but it didn't worked for me. Too bad

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    You know, when I visit Yahoo Finance with ABP on, it does drive my CPU to 100%...actually, two CPUs to 100%.

    I suspect this is because ABP will zoom up to thousands of ads blocked in a matter of minutes...but maybe Yahoo is using my laptop to mine coins to save itself...hmmm...

  • Kick ABP to the curb. It's hot garbage. You want uBlock.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    WSS said: Kick ABP to the curb. It's hot garbage. You want uBlock.

    for Chromium and Firefox. 
    

    No I don't.

    Thanked by 1netomx
  • It exists for Chrome, too.. but whatever.

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