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Would you use MXroute?
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@Jarland give us the answer! I'll get it if it's in London.. Only to get rid of Zoblow.
It is in London, I bought it this morning.
Just switched from setting up free yandex, which never got to work blocking in/out for 2 days straight to a paid service, which i then found a 10/year coupon still working fine.
TAKE MY MONEY!
Edit: Thank you for signing up for MXroute!
What's in the monitor?
No. SCAM.
I do use it. It's good.
I guess it's time to get my idling mxroute package up and running.
So far so good. Ordered the $15/yr package and already moved 2 domains.
Meh, aint got nothing on my 7.5usd/year for 60gb plan
Not that I'm using more than 6mb though.
You should probably bring some more PhDs onto your staff.
No kidding. And apparently they hate hosting email...
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/08/05/27/137229/large-web-host-urges-customers-to-use-gmail
Just to note that that thread is from May 2008 (but it may still be true that DreamHost doesn't care for email).
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They don't push Gmail as much as they used to, and they've invested in AtMail for their webmail client. They still have integrations which setup GMail automatically.
I use Dreamhost email for testing and mostly low volume accounts, and it works well enough. They haven't had any significant outages that affected me in the last few months.
However, I don't blame them for hating email. Overall, email is a swamp full of poisonous creatures, and @jarland is incredibly brave for starting an email service.
Oh I know but it's indicative of how long they've been not wanting to do mail.
Though @jarland walks through the valley of death, he fears no evil, for he is the baddest motherfucker in the valley. (Loosely paraphrased from Psalm 23)
Yeah you can see where I've started to appear in threads on the topics around late last year:
https://discussion.dreamhost.com/thread-147396-post-189172.html
Then came a blog post about how to migrate:
https://www.sanfranciscofogworks.com/projects/how-to/how-to-migrate-email-from-dreamhost-to-mxroute
It's really taken off. Also affiliate payout is up to 20% now and that has generated far more than I ever thought it would.
Let's put it this way. Would you like to pay a hobbyist ~$20/y to maybe do the things you wish to do, or would you rather several hundred PHD's with a proven product like Gmail to do it for you. That's really the fundamental question. I've nothing against new and upcoming products, but from experience in thei industry, by far and way Google has a superior product, hands down.
If you want to deliberate over a few dollars a month, by all means.
I'll admit this freely.
...except for the fact that they don't strictly reject emails on the basis of failing SPF (hard fail), and bounce it back to the spoofed senders (backscatter). Their product is superior, and I've been admitting that from the beginning, but I've recently adopted the belief that they are also incompetent because of that one single thing. Mostly because I'm having to deal with the fallout of it. It's either an indirect attack to other mail services or it's incompetence, but it can only be one.
@jarland, I get where you're coming from.
Realistically (in my opinion), Google is going to react to the real world of email in a more proactive and accurate way than anyone else. Their product was several paradigms above anything else when it came out.
The major selling point of MXROUTE or similar is simply that it isn't Google.
Are you using them for outgoing email delivery ? bit confused with your reply.
Yeah outgoing is going through mailchannels. (from time to time it went through other providers though).
Works great!
Google doesn't have 100 PhDs working on the Gmail product. I doubt they even have 50 people dedicated to the product - and probably no more than 1 or 2 with PhDs.
@jarland 's stack is actively maintained: Postfix, amavisd, dovecot, RoundCube, cPanel etc. Sure it might be a part-time gig for him now, but when Digital Ocean succumbs to cost-cutting pressures and moves his job to the Bangalore office, MXroute will receive full time attention I'm sure
Google doesn't support subdomain's as a catchall through any way I've been able to find, which to me is one of the larger reasons to use MXroute. My intended use there is to make something like *@mail.example.com where * can be the site I'm signing up at so I can more easily find who is selling/leaking (this pisses me off to no end) my fucking email. Honestly such a simple feature and I don't believe many(if any) of the paid services besides MXroute let you do this. You should considering touting this as a feature or something @Jarland, because it is certainly useful and something you have going for you over Google.
I'm not sure I agree with your points, or at least I might phrase them differently.
"A few dollars a month" is not accurate. 10 people on Gmail is $600/year. Those same 10 on mxroute could be $20. If I'm running a business, maybe the $600 is worth it. If it's my model train club, maybe $20 is a better fit. People can trade off cost vs. reliability and there's nothing wrong with that.
"Google has a superior product". Fair enough, but Google has far poorer support. Has anyone ever opened a ticket with Google? I suppose if you're a big customer they give you a rep, etc. but for Joe Small, you'll get personal responses from mxroute support and won't from Google.
I use both Gmail and mxroute for different purposes.
I might consider if @jarland offers an Abu Dhabi location.
An MXroute thread is never complete without that :P
He shoulda taken a right vps in albaquerque
How feasible would a usage based plan be @Jarland? Something like where there is a minimum deposit(10 dollars?) and your system charges people by the actual usage, I think Lunanode(who I like to shill) does this. Though I suppose this kind of thing is potentially hard to implement and even if you did it cuts into the profits of people who buy a large annual plan and barely use any of it.
Edit:
While we are requesting dumb shit, I'd like a South Africa location too thanks.
My main personal email is still with Fastmail which I've been with for years. I've used Gmail at work and I frankly like Fastmail better. The web client does about the same stuff, but there's no ads etc. It's on the expensive side though, especially if you want multiple accounts.
I started using MXRoute more recently and I'm happy with it and it's far more affordable than Fastmail. The main function of mail sending and delivery works great. I'd have to say that Mxroute's current webmail clients (roundcube and similar) and admin panel (cpanel) are both on the primitive side compared to Gmail/Fastmail, but I understand Jarland has stuff in the works to upgrade both of these at some point.
@jarland should create an awesome webmail frontend, not just roundcube or horde etc.
So you only want to pay $5/year for his service, but you also want him to produce a bespoke mail frontend?