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Looking for a Programmer - Flexible Hours working Remotely - 5GBP/hour

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  • @ricardo said:
    @WSS, your frame of reference is what you would expect to be paid. This is online... international... and I've already mentioned that I've had good people in the past from here. It's not "cut rate", for all the reasons already mentioned.

    When you need services like mine to fix what you underbid for the first time, it won't be #5/hr.

  • ricardoricardo Member
    edited February 2017

    Services like yours. Are you an escort? Not sure what your point is :)

  • @ricardo said:
    Services like yours. Are you an escort? Not sure what your point is :)

    I can be. I'm just stating that you shouldn't expect good code for #5/hr.

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  • @WSS said:
    I'll shitpost for £5/hr, but I'll be damned if I'll work for that.

    I've actually earned more money repairing and flipping cars in the last few years than I have coding for others (which is why I no longer offer said services).

    You flipping totaled cars coming out of the insurance companies, or just Craigslist specials?

  • @rpcope said:

    @WSS said:
    I'll shitpost for £5/hr, but I'll be damned if I'll work for that.

    I've actually earned more money repairing and flipping cars in the last few years than I have coding for others (which is why I no longer offer said services).

    You flipping totaled cars coming out of the insurance companies, or just Craigslist specials?

    Mostly neither- police auctions, but Craigslist and WOM sales. I will hit an occasional yard and pull known-expensive parts, and rehab/rebuild them. $100 for less than an hour of work and $10 worth of consumables isn't bad. :)

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  • I don't see the problem. I worked electronics (slaving for different companies) as a student. Sometimes I was lucky like once when the client smiled, told me about his daughter just studying too and and adding 50% on top in cash. Usually I wasn't that lucky.

    If earning 5P/hr plus some experience is a great deal for some student who knows where, great! If he works well there will be other benefits like "some experience with european company", "well trained in english with native speakers", etc.

    To those here who play the social warrior game: How come you don't complain about getting supercheap servers in us of a or germany? How come you don't "loyally" buy expensive VPS in Asia or South-america?
    I'm also failing to see a complainer offering to pay some pounds more @ricardo's product or service so as to actually supporting him in taking a more expensive brit ...

  • RobotexRobotex Member
    edited February 2017

    @ricardo said:

    Robotex said: Just out of curiosity, when you guys talk of average hourly/monthly wages, are those gross or net values?

    Usually before (any) tax. It's a better comparison across international borders.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

    Those values are overly optimistic or dirtied by the "premium" wages some managers get.. Atleast for Italy.

    Never seen any job in my area with a salary higher than €1500 net, and that's for seniors with atleast 5 years of experience. Every job interview proposal I have received, wanted someone to be paid between €850-€1000 for a full-time junior developer position (I graduated a year and half ago) that can reach €1200/m after a few years.

    My first job (when I had only high school diploma) was under apprentice contract, and was €320/month net (€450 before taxes) for 20 hours a week.

  • @bsdguy said:
    I don't see the problem.
    I'm also failing to see a complainer offering to pay some pounds more @ricardo's product or service so as to actually supporting him in taking a more expensive brit ...

    Now you don't see a problem.

    It just so happens that it's :country: that has become some kind of global place to go to for cheap call centers and support.
    "cheap" being the keyword. My attack is in no way one on :country's citizens: but one on the large corps who want the cheapest pro-forma support they can possibly get away with. (And sure enough, one will soon find idiots praising that A corp has X hundred support people)

    And just earlier today you did. And went as far as to "attack" (using your own word) companies who do exactly that - try to pay as little as possible to anyone, anywhere and get "cheap" quality he can get away with.

    Inconsistent.

  • @rpcope said:
    You flipping totaled cars coming out of the insurance companies, or just Craigslist specials?

    Here are some 'fixer-upper' parts for me to refurb- alarms need new batteries and capacitors, orange lamp control units need to be resoldered, and the info displays need new lines run between the LCD and mainboard.

  • @Yura said:

    @bsdguy said:
    I don't see the problem.
    I'm also failing to see a complainer offering to pay some pounds more @ricardo's product or service so as to actually supporting him in taking a more expensive brit ...

    Now you don't see a problem.

    It just so happens that it's :country: that has become some kind of global place to go to for cheap call centers and support.
    "cheap" being the keyword. My attack is in no way one on :country's citizens: but one on the large corps who want the cheapest pro-forma support they can possibly get away with. (And sure enough, one will soon find idiots praising that A corp has X hundred support people)

    And just earlier today you did. And went as far as to "attack" (using your own word) companies who do exactly that - try to pay as little as possible to anyone, anywhere and get "cheap" quality he can get away with.

    Inconsistent.

    Not at all.

    ricardo is looking for a freelancer; he seems to have had a student in mind. - in yesterdays discussions it was about companies.
    ricardo is outsourcing some small work - yesterday it was about outsourcing major parts of or even all of a companies support.
    Doing some scripting is quite different from support in practical terms, too.
    Finally, if (just if) that person does shitty work it'll be ricardo who gets fucked. If corporations outsource their support and that is shitty then it's the customers who get fucked.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    blackjack4494 said: 5 gbp is basically exploiting.

    ricardo said: Ideally you're just looking for extra money to compliment the stuff you're already doing.

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  • I make a decent whack from my current employment, considerably more than the UK minimum wage - but when I inevitably get made redundant and I'm looking for work, I'd bite people's hands off for offers like this; earning up to an extra £600 a month for wrk that's not particularly taxing that I can fit around job hunting would be just the ticket.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    Nekki said: £600 a month for wrk that's not particularly taxing

    Indeed, no taxes at all!

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  • @raindog308 said:

    Nekki said: £600 a month for wrk that's not particularly taxing

    Indeed, no taxes at all!

  • raindog308 said: Indeed, no taxes at all!

    That very much depends at what point I'm made redundant, obviously the closer to the end of the financial year in March, the more chance there is that the income will still be taxab.....ah, yes I see. Very good.

    Thanked by 1Junkless
  • @WSS said:

    @rpcope said:
    You flipping totaled cars coming out of the insurance companies, or just Craigslist specials?

    Here are some 'fixer-upper' parts for me to refurb- alarms need new batteries and capacitors, orange lamp control units need to be resoldered, and the info displays need new lines run between the LCD and mainboard.

    Looks like fun, nice and simple electronics. Those are probably all for vehicles still simple enough that you don't have to take them to the dealership to reflash the ECM everytime you change a switch or relay, though. :)

    LowEndCars when?

  • @Nekki said:
    That very much depends at what point I'm made redundant, obviously the closer to the end of the financial year in March, the more chance there is that the income will still be taxab.....ah, yes I see. Very good.

    Had you morning coffee yet ? :P

  • WSSWSS Member
    edited February 2017

    @rpcope said:
    Looks like fun, nice and simple electronics. Those are probably all for vehicles still simple enough that you don't have to take them to the dealership to reflash the ECM everytime you change a switch or relay, though. :)

    Not even close- it's all SAAB. You can't even get your own key made for it without plugging a Tech 2 into the car and making it learn the transponder. RFID built into the key. But, yeah, these are pretty simple parts. :)

    LowEndCars when?

    Oh HELL yeah!

  • Junkless said: Had you morning coffee yet ? :P

    Didn't get coffee this morning. Woken up a 4am to deal with a production incident, been running on fumes since midday :-0

  • @Nekki said:

    Junkless said: Had you morning coffee yet ? :P

    Didn't get coffee this morning. Woken up a 4am to deal with a production incident, been running on fumes since midday :-0

    ohh, damn. Need a hug ? Should I call @cociu ? :P

  • By "production incident", I assume he meant that he woke up with a piss boner.

  • oneilonlineoneilonline Member, Host Rep

    Isn't 5£ for flippin burgers?
    Any programing takes education...and a little more thought than flippin burgers ;)

    You don't see sweat shop programmers.

    If you respect the job and the employee, they should be compensated accordingly.

  • @Nekki said:
    earning up to an extra £600 a month for wrk that's not particularly taxing that I can fit around job hunting would be just the ticket.

    I used to do this, it can be really crappy. It's not like a full time employment where you constantly work on something you are familiar with, you just get random tasks. As in, do this thing you never worked on before, concerning the subject you are completely unfamiliar with. It's about 2 hours work and we'll pay you £10. No one cares if you spend the whole day researching the subject, that's not work and you won't get paid for it. And infinite number of revisions, we already paid you (£10) for this therefore we get all changes for free.

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  • @cociu is still in love with @nekki ... so please do not disturb ..

  • vedran said: No one cares if you spend the whole day researching the subject, that's not work and you won't get paid for it. And infinite number of revisions, we already paid you (£10) for this therefore we get all changes for free.

    Sounds like you had a bad experience.

    My colleague and I are decent human beings, and have good ideas of how long things take, preparatory or otherwise.

    Since we're a band of two, if we got someone we really like working with, who knows what could happen.

    We're just really after someone to help with things I'm too busy to do, and take it from there.

    ...

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  • @ricardo seems to be down to earth about this, rather than just trying to undercut competent coders, so I take back my snarky comments. THIS TIME.

  • @WSS said:
    By "production incident", I assume he meant that he woke up with a piss boner.

    That's a failed deployment.

    @vedran said:

    I used to do this, it can be really crappy. It's not like a full time employment where you constantly work on something you are familiar with, you just get random tasks. As in, do this thing you never worked on before, concerning the subject you are completely unfamiliar with. It's about 2 hours work and we'll pay you £10. No one cares if you spend the whole day researching the subject, that's not work and you won't get paid for it. And infinite number of revisions, we already paid you (£10) for this therefore we get all changes for free.

    Getting paid for a couple of hours of practical experience is fine with me. I learn better when I have a task in front of me, and it's a good way to blow away the cobwebs.

    Not like it'd be for ever anyway, just a means of earning some cash without having to take a shit full time job that will impact my ability to job hunt properly, and if the employer's a twat, you just ditch it, you've lost little more than a few hours.

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  • jhjh Member
    edited February 2017

    Ishaq said: Can you write in two languages?

    Yes. But for the record, I'm only making fun of the typical sorts that would bid on a £5 per hour software development gig. Maybe the OP will find someone good - best of luck to him - but seems highly unlikely to me.

  • WebProjectWebProject Host Rep, Veteran
    edited February 2017

    I think the OP want too much for £5 per hour (list of things is too big). I don't know what you are smoking? good luck to fund such person.

  • trewqtrewq Administrator, Patron Provider

    WebProject said: I think the OP want too much for £5 per hour (list of things is too big). I don't know what you are smoking? good luck to fund such person.

    If I saw this ad and I was out of work I would jump at it. Something flexible, keeping skills current and covers some of the bills. People have different perspectives on opportunity cost but if you're just sitting on your ass all day anyway may as well make some money.

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