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  • Ah. I see. Here on LET, we're used to maybe 10% of your budget, so... Good luck- I wish I could offer more, but you're way out of my domain (the last time I did this professionally, 100bT was still not only common, but more than sufficient for each machine).

  • @WSS said:
    Ah. I see. Here on LET, we're used to maybe 10% of your budget, so... Good luck- I wish I could offer more, but you're way out of my domain (the last time I did this professionally, 100bT was still not only common, but more than sufficient for each machine).

    Does that mean you can get me a 10Gbit for 10% of my budget ? ;D

  • @DeadCode said:

    @WSS said:
    Ah. I see. Here on LET, we're used to maybe 10% of your budget, so... Good luck- I wish I could offer more, but you're way out of my domain (the last time I did this professionally, 100bT was still not only common, but more than sufficient for each machine).

    Does that mean you can get me a 10Gbit for 10% of my budget ? ;D

    No, but I can get you a 2007-era laptop with Gig-E and no bandwidth for less than you pay to rent a machine. ;)

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  • Still sounds to me like you should look into cutting your big box into smaller boxes, and take advantage of some online.net/ovh/scaleway/vortexnode high bandwidth low pricing servers.

    Did you check that LEB link with the 100TB bw vortexnode server for 35/month yet?

  • @teamacc said:
    Still sounds to me like you should look into cutting your big box into smaller boxes, and take advantage of some online.net/ovh/scaleway/vortexnode high bandwidth low pricing servers.

    Did you check that LEB link with the 100TB bw vortexnode server for 35/month yet?

    The bigger problem he's going to face is colocating/etc his NAS and having it available with his owned/rented hardware with the best bandwidth possible.

    I agree that moving his content between a ton of different static servers would be a bit easier, but he's not even paying $400/mo. Renting a rack still isn't cheap.

  • @WSS said:

    @teamacc said:
    Still sounds to me like you should look into cutting your big box into smaller boxes, and take advantage of some online.net/ovh/scaleway/vortexnode high bandwidth low pricing servers.

    Did you check that LEB link with the 100TB bw vortexnode server for 35/month yet?

    The bigger problem he's going to face is colocating/etc his NAS and having it available with his owned/rented hardware with the best bandwidth possible.

    I agree that moving his content between a ton of different static servers would be a bit easier, but he's not even paying $400/mo. Renting a rack still isn't cheap.

    The only thing I can think of is mater-master replication of filesystem (on mounted partition) using DRDB. Thoughts?

  • @DeadCode said:

    @WSS said:

    @teamacc said:
    Still sounds to me like you should look into cutting your big box into smaller boxes, and take advantage of some online.net/ovh/scaleway/vortexnode high bandwidth low pricing servers.

    Did you check that LEB link with the 100TB bw vortexnode server for 35/month yet?

    The bigger problem he's going to face is colocating/etc his NAS and having it available with his owned/rented hardware with the best bandwidth possible.

    I agree that moving his content between a ton of different static servers would be a bit easier, but he's not even paying $400/mo. Renting a rack still isn't cheap.

    The only thing I can think of is mater-master replication of filesystem (on mounted partition) using DRDB. Thoughts?

    Well, doing a block-block mirror is certainly an option, but if you are going to setup a NAS, that won't be necessary, necessarily. :)

    I prefer to make filesystem-level mirrors, myself, because then I won't have to worry about compatibility, so long as the new filesystem has the same abilities as the old, if not more (ext2->ext4, et al).

  • @WSS said:
    I prefer to make filesystem-level mirrors, myself, because then I won't have to worry about compatibility, so long as the new filesystem has the same abilities as the old, if not more (ext2->ext4, et al).

    I'm not sure that a NAS would be the solution. After review of the infrastructure, the bottleneck would still be the fact that the NAS has HDDs and is on a 10Gbit fiber. Once we hit 10Gbit, we'll hit peak efficiency.

    Using block replication, we effectively remove the bottleneck. Although I'd still ask around for quotes on a 10Gbit fiber

  • Yet, with a 10Gb possible bit of bandwidth, what would you expect with local drives and replication? I don't really see that being much more if your content changes much.

  • Funny, (among others) I told you about a solution that would pretty much match your current special deal but you didn't even react.
    Instead you bring up another issue (nfs, nas, or ...).

    Oh, and: A provider earning that kind of money with you would almost certainly be ready to run/connect a 2nd 10 Gb fiber between your servers and/or a nas or whatever.

  • Why do you need a NAS? Just track which files are on which node and serve them from there.

  • Split up your content, replicate the shards to n smaller nodes and profit $$$$.
    There is no other way to scale out than abandoning your old single server setup.

  • @bsdguy said:
    Maybe I know a solution for you.

    How about using 2 dedicated servers (no mentally sane VPS provider will do it I guess) rather than 1 and then stick to simple 1 standard 1Gb/s pipes? Would make your request less strange and actually cheaper while providing added safety.

    Here's what I know of:

    1st class european colo w/ Terabits on multiple backends. Here's what you'd get (per server. Total price/month for both would be around 650 € + VAT (about 20%))

    • brand name machine
    • E3-1231v3
    • 8 GB RAM (up to 32 GB opt.)
    • 1 * 960 GB SSD (2nd one about 60€/mo)
    • full 1 Gb/s port
    • 250 TB volume included

    You can also get it cheaper with less bw. For example with 100 TB/mo the price would be about 150€ cheaper. Might be interesting to have one server w/250 TB and the other one w/100 TB/mo (@ about 550€/mo for both) and upgrade traffic later when 350 TB aren't enough anymore.

    The only issue is that you needed to somehow split visitor traffic. Can't advise on that as I don't know your situation well enough but there are ways and easy ones.

    That way you could start at about 550 €/mo and have about 1.9 TB SSD space and 350 TB traffic volume plus some added safety.
    For about 30 or 35€/mo you could add a 2 TB hdd to one of the machines to have a backup.

    FYI: That provider can easily upgrade you in case you needed even Petabytes of traffic volume. Although it might be cheaper then to get a rack with 10 Gb flat (colo bw is usually cheaper than dedi bw).
    Don't know about porn tolerance but from what I know they don't care shit as long as you don't do illegal stuff (porn is not illegal in their country).

    Disclaimer: I have no business interests/reselling or whatever connection with that provider.

    Send me a PM if you're interested.

    I am super sorry - I completely skipped the 2nd part of the first page. As for this deal, here's what we have, right now:
    https://gist.github.com/TheDeadCode/428d7a7520bab9322fa5d7999010f2f7
    Had to post as a gist since cloudflare didn't like bash

    Also, our machine is a Dell R220

  • @mayli said:
    @deadcode > @DeadCode said:

    @mayli said:
    Hey, since you are distributing files, why no CDN? I thought cloud flare is free.

    CloudFlare only caches videos <300MB. Also, other CDNs quoted us at >$15,000 USD a month.

    So is splitting video file at 250MB an option?

    No, that's what the HLS technology and most of our users use old phones or Opera Mini. It cannot do video stitching.

  • Definitely won't do. We'd need ~25 of these. And then we'd need to manage disk usage per-vm. Too much trouble. This is a hobby, not a full time job hehe

    Thanks for the thoughts tho <3

  • @GCat said:
    We can hook you up on our business line, def not cheap though, but we can offer SLA, dedicated pipes, etc. with flexible load balancing, etc. starting at $450.00/mo

    You only rent line or does it come with server? SLA must be 99.9%+. Quad-nines are also nice.

  • @willie said:
    You could try the Online.net premium bandwidth package at 80 euro/month then. The Pro line servers have 10gbps connectivity at least to the internal network, better ask them about the external one. Or you could use more than one server: I don't see why that's a problem given your traffic level.

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    Seems interesting. We prefer not touching france, since we had troubles with the OVH DMCA team. I'll wait until they're in stock to look more into it. Thanks!

  • @windytime90 said:
    The problem lies on your design, not on your hardware. What will u do if in the next 3 months, your customers number increase twice?

    They did. PewDiePie linked our site in one of his videos and the average clients went from 450 concurrent to 1400 concurrent. The fix was easy, I simply put the site on cloudflare and we were good. But we're seeing growth of ~7% every month. We're not part of the 10,000 most visited sites in the world. We keep growing and it's why I'm trying to engineer a new system that doesn't take 99% of my time.

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  • @doughmanes said:
    I had a server with EqServers for streaming that a customer wanted. Their sales team is helpful.

    I know EqServers, we almost went with them, but our current hosting beat their prices, and had better support. I believe it's hosted in the same datacenter.

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  • @teamacc said:
    Why do you need a NAS? Just track which files are on which node and serve them from there.

    I've also planned that. But then I was simply thinking of deploying openstack swift and do tracking from there. The NAS will become the bottleneck in less than 6 months so I won't bother using one.

  • @Shigawire said:
    Split up your content, replicate the shards to n smaller nodes and profit $$$$.
    There is no other way to scale out than abandoning your old single server setup.

    We can scale out, but that's time consuming until I re-code the website on something other than wordpress. Perhaps in 6 months scaling out will be an option.

  • williewillie Member
    edited February 2017

    DeadCode said: This is a hobby, not a full time job hehe ... SLA must be 99.9%+. Quad-nines are also nice.

    Lol. Just use multiple dedis as people have said.

    Looks like OVH CDN is about 6 euro per TB, maybe a bit much:

    https://www.ovh.ie/cdn/infrastructure/

    The NAS will become the bottleneck in less than 6 months so I won't bother using one.

    You can do something really crude like just redirect based on a few characters of the filename.

    I've always heard that openstack is quite complex to administer, fwiw. If you know what you're doing and have a big installation it's great. Otherwise you may be better off with something simpler.

  • @WSS said:
    Yet, with a 10Gb possible bit of bandwidth, what would you expect with local drives and replication? I don't really see that being much more if your content changes much.

    Our SSD is crazy good, they run in RAID 0 (Yes, RAID 0, we don't need data protection. I got a backup of everything on my QNAP at home). Even when capping our port, htop says we barely hit 15% of IOPS treshhold of our SSDs. I think we're good for now, storage-wise

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  • @willie said:

    DeadCode said: This is a hobby, not a full time job hehe ... SLA must be 99.9%+. Quad-nines are also nice.

    Lol. Just use multiple dedis as people have said.

    Looks like OVH CDN is about 6 euro per TB, maybe a bit much:

    https://www.ovh.ie/cdn/infrastructure/

    The NAS will become the bottleneck in less than 6 months so I won't bother using one.

    You can do something really crude like just redirect based on a few characters of the filename.

    Already thought of that. It's something I have in my backlog to look into. Although if you read up a bit, we can't go on OVH due to their DMCA team hating us. =)

  • DeadCode said: we can't go on OVH due to their DMCA team hating us. =)

    Oh hmm, in that case it sounds to me like your remaining destination is Romania.

  • @willie said:

    DeadCode said: we can't go on OVH due to their DMCA team hating us. =)

    Oh hmm, in that case it sounds to me like your remaining destination is Romania.

    We're currently in Netherlands and it's being fine, since we're in a grey zone. We've asked a quote to Voxility. Should get an answer on wednesday

  • @HostSlick said:
    I can do 10Gbps unmetered server for 2500 euros a month, $260 USD per gigabit unmetered. All premium bandwidth through Tier 1 carriers.

    Let me know.

    I've already contacted your provider, Bandwidth.co.uk for a quote. Thanks tho!

  • @DeadCode said:

    @GCat said:
    We can hook you up on our business line, def not cheap though, but we can offer SLA, dedicated pipes, etc. with flexible load balancing, etc. starting at $450.00/mo

    You only rent line or does it come with server? SLA must be 99.9%+. Quad-nines are also nice.

    Server included

  • @GCat said:

    @DeadCode said:

    @GCat said:
    We can hook you up on our business line, def not cheap though, but we can offer SLA, dedicated pipes, etc. with flexible load balancing, etc. starting at $450.00/mo

    You only rent line or does it come with server? SLA must be 99.9%+. Quad-nines are also nice.

    Server included

    Make me an offer in PM. Ask for more details if needed.

  • saf31saf31 Member
    edited February 2017

    have a look at https://www.jwplayer.com/ . I watch anime on ryuanime.com and they use this. I kind of like it.

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