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  • MrKaruppuMrKaruppu Member
    edited February 2017

    Tried Hetzner? They're a little more expensive than OVH, but they're damn good.

    Hetzner doesn't allow adult content to be hosted. TOS says,

    6.2 The client undertakes not to publish content that may violate the rights of third parties or otherwise violate the law. The placement of erotic, pornographic, extremist material or material not deemed in good taste is not permitted. We are entitled to block access to the account of any customer who violates this.

    May be I am wrong.

  • Online.net
    Scaleway.com
    Webtropia.com
    Servdiscount.com
    10Gbps.io
    100tb.com

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited February 2017

    @DeadCode said:

    @Clouvider said:
    You're looking to save money or get quality ?

    Save money & Get Quality. We're currently looking at Digital Ocean's offering since they aren't counting bandwidth yet.

    This is a good solution but we will ask you to spread out that load across more than one server. If you truly need unmetered 1gbps then one server sustaining that kind of usage will be seen as having a negative impact for neighboring servers.

    It also sounds like you may be wanting to mount one storage volume to multiple VMs. Do note that this is not a feature of any cloud provider that I'm aware of. You wouldn't plug a hard drive into multiple computers, for example. You would mount it to one and use network based protocols of your choice for the rest.

  • @MrKaruppu said:
    Hetzner doesn't allow adult content to be hosted. TOS says,

    6.2 The client undertakes not to publish content that may violate the rights of third parties or otherwise violate the law. The placement of erotic, pornographic, extremist material or material not deemed in good taste is not permitted. We are entitled to block access to the account of any customer who violates this.

    May be I am wrong.

    I thought the domain name was a joke at the time. :)

  • hawkjohn7 said: almost site porn was i visit

    You watch pornography?!?! And you're telling us this in public?!?!!!

  • @hawkjohn7 said:

    @DeadCode said:

    why not using googlevideo for streaming video.

    almost site porn was i visit use googlevideo.com (google drive) for video streaming

    The thing is: how to do it?

  • @JoaoCAM said:

    @hawkjohn7 said:

    @DeadCode said:

    why not using googlevideo for streaming video.

    almost site porn was i visit use googlevideo.com (google drive) for video streaming

    The thing is: how to do it?

    That's pretty simple, I am writing a generic app to serve files from Google driver. Basically just to grab the real video file link and redirect to it.

  • Hey, since you are distributing files, why no CDN? I thought cloud flare is free.

  • DeadCodeDeadCode Member
    edited February 2017

    @simonindia said:

    @DeadCode said:

    You need to take a look at https://www.fdcservers.net

    Already did. They cannot help us. Their price is $ 1196.50 per month.

    @FoxelVox said:
    Why is no one mentioning online.net/scaleway or servdiscount.com/webtropia.com?

    their both unmetered.

    They're not true unmetered 10Gbps. You share bandwidth too much.

    @Ympker said:
    Well although way about your budget there still is https://10gbps.io for streaming needs.
    Starting at 370$/unmetered for 1Gbps with possibility for more.

    We currently pay 5$ more for 1TB SSD. 10Gb/s with them is too expensive.

    @MrKaruppu said:

    Tried Hetzner? They're a little more expensive than OVH, but they're damn good.

    Hetzner doesn't allow adult content to be hosted. TOS says,

    6.2 The client undertakes not to publish content that may violate the rights of third parties or otherwise violate the law. The placement of erotic, pornographic, extremist material or material not deemed in good taste is not permitted. We are entitled to block access to the account of any customer who violates this.

    May be I am wrong.

    Exactly what Hetzner told us when we asked for a quote.

    @jarland said:

    @DeadCode said:

    @Clouvider said:
    You're looking to save money or get quality ?

    Save money & Get Quality. We're currently looking at Digital Ocean's offering since they aren't counting bandwidth yet.

    This is a good solution but we will ask you to spread out that load across more than one server. If you truly need unmetered 1gbps then one server sustaining that kind of usage will be seen as having a negative impact for neighboring servers.

    It also sounds like you may be wanting to mount one storage volume to multiple VMs. Do note that this is not a feature of any cloud provider that I'm aware of. You wouldn't plug a hard drive into multiple computers, for example. You would mount it to one and use network based protocols of your choice for the rest.

    We are in the CloudFlare load balancing beta. We plan on using them to balance stuff out.

    @mayli said:

    @JoaoCAM said:

    @hawkjohn7 said:

    @DeadCode said:

    why not using googlevideo for streaming video.

    almost site porn was i visit use googlevideo.com (google drive) for video streaming

    The thing is: how to do it?

    That's pretty simple, I am writing a generic app to serve files from Google driver. Basically just to grab the real video file link and redirect to it.

    We did that before. The hassle and time loss to re-upload the videos that google removed was too big. They simply closed our account after a year.

    @mayli said:
    Hey, since you are distributing files, why no CDN? I thought cloud flare is free.

    CloudFlare only caches videos <300MB. Also, other CDNs quoted us at >$15,000 USD a month.

  • DeadCode said: Already did. They cannot help us. Their price is $ 1196.50 per month.
    DeadCode said: They're not true unmetered 10Gbps. You share bandwidth too much.

    You really expect dedicated 10gbps for < $1196.50/month? Lol. $5k is more realistic.

  • @willie said:

    DeadCode said: Already did. They cannot help us. Their price is $ 1196.50 per month.
    DeadCode said: They're not true unmetered 10Gbps. You share bandwidth too much.

    You really expect dedicated 10gbps for < $1196.50/month? Lol. $5k is more realistic.

    We're not looking for a premium transit blend at 5k+. We don't even need a blend. A single cogent link would suffice rofl

  • williewillie Member
    edited February 2017

    You could try the Online.net premium bandwidth package at 80 euro/month then. The Pro line servers have 10gbps connectivity at least to the internal network, better ask them about the external one. Or you could use more than one server: I don't see why that's a problem given your traffic level.

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  • Maybe I know a solution for you.

    How about using 2 dedicated servers (no mentally sane VPS provider will do it I guess) rather than 1 and then stick to simple 1 standard 1Gb/s pipes? Would make your request less strange and actually cheaper while providing added safety.

    Here's what I know of:

    1st class european colo w/ Terabits on multiple backends. Here's what you'd get (per server. Total price/month for both would be around 650 € + VAT (about 20%))

    • brand name machine
    • E3-1231v3
    • 8 GB RAM (up to 32 GB opt.)
    • 1 * 960 GB SSD (2nd one about 60€/mo)
    • full 1 Gb/s port
    • 250 TB volume included

    You can also get it cheaper with less bw. For example with 100 TB/mo the price would be about 150€ cheaper. Might be interesting to have one server w/250 TB and the other one w/100 TB/mo (@ about 550€/mo for both) and upgrade traffic later when 350 TB aren't enough anymore.

    The only issue is that you needed to somehow split visitor traffic. Can't advise on that as I don't know your situation well enough but there are ways and easy ones.

    That way you could start at about 550 €/mo and have about 1.9 TB SSD space and 350 TB traffic volume plus some added safety.
    For about 30 or 35€/mo you could add a 2 TB hdd to one of the machines to have a backup.

    FYI: That provider can easily upgrade you in case you needed even Petabytes of traffic volume. Although it might be cheaper then to get a rack with 10 Gb flat (colo bw is usually cheaper than dedi bw).
    Don't know about porn tolerance but from what I know they don't care shit as long as you don't do illegal stuff (porn is not illegal in their country).

    Disclaimer: I have no business interests/reselling or whatever connection with that provider.

    Send me a PM if you're interested.

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  • We can hook you up on our business line, def not cheap though, but we can offer SLA, dedicated pipes, etc. with flexible load balancing, etc. starting at $450.00/mo

  • @deadcode > @DeadCode said:

    @mayli said:
    Hey, since you are distributing files, why no CDN? I thought cloud flare is free.

    CloudFlare only caches videos <300MB. Also, other CDNs quoted us at >$15,000 USD a month.

    So is splitting video file at 250MB an option?

  • The problem lies on your design, not on your hardware. What will u do if in the next 3 months, your customers number increase twice?

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  • I had a server with EqServers for streaming that a customer wanted. Their sales team is helpful.

  • JanevskiJanevski Member
    edited February 2017

    I am using Scaleway.

    Anyhow, unmetered and cloud are diametrally different terms.

    Usually clouds milk bill you on the go, for everything and don't profit from an unlimited access to a service.

  • HostSlickHostSlick Member, Patron Provider

    I can do 10Gbps unmetered server for 2500 euros a month, $260 USD per gigabit unmetered. All premium bandwidth through Tier 1 carriers.

    Let me know.

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  • @HostSlick nice of you to actually read the thread...not!!

    HostSlick said: can do 10Gbps unmetered server for 2500 euros a month,

    But the OP pays

    DeadCode said: and pay 375$ USD a month.

    and want to

    DeadCode said: Save money & Get Quality

    So I don't think €2500/mo is what OP is looking for.

  • Get 10 scaleway VPSses and balance the load between them somehow.

  • @DeadCode said:

    @simonindia said:

    @DeadCode said:

    You need to take a look at https://www.fdcservers.net

    Already did. They cannot help us. Their price is $ 1196.50 per month.

    @FoxelVox said:
    Why is no one mentioning online.net/scaleway or servdiscount.com/webtropia.com?

    their both unmetered.

    They're not true unmetered 10Gbps. You share bandwidth too much.

    @Ympker said:
    Well although way about your budget there still is https://10gbps.io for streaming needs.
    Starting at 370$/unmetered for 1Gbps with possibility for more.

    We currently pay 5$ more for 1TB SSD. 10Gb/s with them is too expensive.

    @MrKaruppu said:

    Tried Hetzner? They're a little more expensive than OVH, but they're damn good.

    Hetzner doesn't allow adult content to be hosted. TOS says,

    6.2 The client undertakes not to publish content that may violate the rights of third parties or otherwise violate the law. The placement of erotic, pornographic, extremist material or material not deemed in good taste is not permitted. We are entitled to block access to the account of any customer who violates this.

    May be I am wrong.

    Exactly what Hetzner told us when we asked for a quote.

    @jarland said:

    @DeadCode said:

    @Clouvider said:
    You're looking to save money or get quality ?

    Save money & Get Quality. We're currently looking at Digital Ocean's offering since they aren't counting bandwidth yet.

    This is a good solution but we will ask you to spread out that load across more than one server. If you truly need unmetered 1gbps then one server sustaining that kind of usage will be seen as having a negative impact for neighboring servers.

    It also sounds like you may be wanting to mount one storage volume to multiple VMs. Do note that this is not a feature of any cloud provider that I'm aware of. You wouldn't plug a hard drive into multiple computers, for example. You would mount it to one and use network based protocols of your choice for the rest.

    We are in the CloudFlare load balancing beta. We plan on using them to balance stuff out.

    @mayli said:

    @JoaoCAM said:

    @hawkjohn7 said:

    @DeadCode said:

    why not using googlevideo for streaming video.

    almost site porn was i visit use googlevideo.com (google drive) for video streaming

    The thing is: how to do it?

    That's pretty simple, I am writing a generic app to serve files from Google driver. Basically just to grab the real video file link and redirect to it.

    We did that before. The hassle and time loss to re-upload the videos that google removed was too big. They simply closed our account after a year.

    @mayli said:
    Hey, since you are distributing files, why no CDN? I thought cloud flare is free.

    CloudFlare only caches videos <300MB. Also, other CDNs quoted us at >$15,000 USD a month.

    Maybe look into HLS? That will save you traffic as well as stress to the back end. I know a case when a guy pushed 2PB of apk traffic with Business plan: Cloudflare emailed him asking for upgrading to Enterprise plan or limit POPs he can use.

  • @cnbeining said:
    Maybe look into HLS? That will save you traffic as well as stress to the back end. I know a case when a guy pushed 2PB of apk traffic with Business plan: Cloudflare emailed him asking for upgrading to Enterprise plan or limit POPs he can use.

    We ran the HLS technology from July 2016 to Mid-August 2016. We lost traffic alot since we have alot of users on old Android Phones and using Opera. Our traffic dropped by 45% and so we reverted to MP4. We run on Nginx Plus to manage the Mp4 bitrate download.

  • @teamacc said:
    Get 10 scaleway VPSses and balance the load between them somehow.

    We need to be able to attach block storage using NFS or any other type of storage where every machine in the cluster will be able to read and serve MP4 files. Scaleway doesn't support it

  • WSSWSS Member
    edited February 2017

    @DeadCode said:

    @cnbeining said:
    Maybe look into HLS? That will save you traffic as well as stress to the back end. I know a case when a guy pushed 2PB of apk traffic with Business plan: Cloudflare emailed him asking for upgrading to Enterprise plan or limit POPs he can use.

    We ran the HLS technology from July 2016 to Mid-August 2016. We lost traffic alot since we have alot of users on old Android Phones and using Opera. Our traffic dropped by 45% and so we reverted to MP4. We run on Nginx Plus to manage the Mp4 bitrate download.

    Not to fully derail your thread, but- you can afford $2,000+/yr for a webserver, and are trying to cut costs on <$400/mo hardware?

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  • @WSS said:

    @DeadCode said:

    @cnbeining said:
    Maybe look into HLS? That will save you traffic as well as stress to the back end. I know a case when a guy pushed 2PB of apk traffic with Business plan: Cloudflare emailed him asking for upgrading to Enterprise plan or limit POPs he can use.

    We ran the HLS technology from July 2016 to Mid-August 2016. We lost traffic alot since we have alot of users on old Android Phones and using Opera. Our traffic dropped by 45% and so we reverted to MP4. We run on Nginx Plus to manage the Mp4 bitrate download.

    Not to fully derail your thread, but- you can afford $2,000+/yr for a webserver, and are trying to cut costs on <$400/mo hardware?

    We currently pay $375 / month for our server. So yes, we can afford to pay $4,500 a year on a server

  • @DeadCode said:

    We currently pay $375 / month for our server. So yes, we can afford to pay $4,500 a year on a server

    Why not just obtain a secondary system at your current host for another $375 and eventually get your own NAS?

  • @WSS said:

    @DeadCode said:

    We currently pay $375 / month for our server. So yes, we can afford to pay $4,500 a year on a server

    Why not just obtain a secondary system at your current host for another $375 and eventually get your own NAS

    Our current host gave us a deal for that current server we own. They did not want to duplicate the deal. The original pricing was 375$/month, with only 5TB of traffic. They gave us flat unmetered for free. We are trying hard to get them to offer us something but they do not seem willing.

  • @WSS said:

    @DeadCode said:

    We currently pay $375 / month for our server. So yes, we can afford to pay $4,500 a year on a server

    Why not just obtain a secondary system at your current host for another $375 and eventually get your own NAS?

    As for the NAS I contacted QNAP on Friday and should have news by Wednesday.

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