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  • @CubePath said: It’s a general decision about the risks we’re willing to take on with Tor traffic, not a claim that middle relays work like exit nodes.

    And what is that risk? Since middles pose the same risk as private WireGuard tunnels, is WireGuard also disallowed?

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    @CubePath said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:
    I guess you can't have your email server here either, since email servers manipulate email headers.

    You can run an email server on a CubePath VPS. The restriction on email header manipulation refers to abusive or deceptive use, not the normal headers an email server creates.

    Outgoing port 25 is blocked by default. After you’ve had the VPS for one month, you can open a support ticket to request that we unblock it.

    I don't understand why people want port 25 anymore when majority of email is all SSL.
    Its like lets do FTP over port 21... um... why?!

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    @CubePath said:

    @forest said:

    @CubePath said: Thanks for bringing this up. We do require a card for the initial $10 account verification, but that $10 goes straight into your balance. You can then pay with crypto for future top ups.

    If someone is using cryptocurrency, it's specifically because they don't want to use card (or PayPal).

    So that kind of defeats the purpose...

    You’re right. If the reason for using crypto is to avoid cards entirely, requiring one for the initial verification defeats the purpose. Thanks for explaining it so clearly. We’ll bring this feedback to the team and review whether we can offer another way to verify accounts.

    There is some other ways. That can help.

  • @JoshR said:

    @CubePath said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:
    I guess you can't have your email server here either, since email servers manipulate email headers.

    You can run an email server on a CubePath VPS. The restriction on email header manipulation refers to abusive or deceptive use, not the normal headers an email server creates.

    Outgoing port 25 is blocked by default. After you’ve had the VPS for one month, you can open a support ticket to request that we unblock it.

    I don't understand why people want port 25 anymore when majority of email is all SSL.
    Its like lets do FTP over port 21... um... why?!

    Because 25 is for server-to-server communication. It's usually encrypted with STARTTLS even over 25.

  • buggedoutbuggedout Member
    edited September 30

    @JoshR said:

    @CubePath said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:
    I guess you can't have your email server here either, since email servers manipulate email headers.

    You can run an email server on a CubePath VPS. The restriction on email header manipulation refers to abusive or deceptive use, not the normal headers an email server creates.

    Outgoing port 25 is blocked by default. After you’ve had the VPS for one month, you can open a support ticket to request that we unblock it.

    I don't understand why people want port 25 anymore when majority of email is all SSL.
    Its like lets do FTP over port 21... um... why?!

    I think email transfer over internet on port 25 only. They are only encrypted over port 465 or 587 when sending the email to clients.

    Edit: forest has explained it better....

  • CubePathCubePath Member, Patron Provider

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:

    @CubePath said:

    You’re right that non-exit relays are different from exit nodes and don’t carry the same abuse risk. Our current policy still doesn’t allow Tor relays of any kind. It’s a general decision about the risks we’re willing to take on with Tor traffic, not a claim that middle relays work like exit nodes. Thanks for raising the distinction.

    Hi, I like your service, but I just need one question answered before I sign up. How many L's in ellephlant?

    Three in “ellephlant”, one in “elephant”. Is that the signup test passed? 😉

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  • CubePathCubePath Member, Patron Provider

    @JoshR said:

    @CubePath said:

    @forest said:

    @CubePath said: Thanks for bringing this up. We do require a card for the initial $10 account verification, but that $10 goes straight into your balance. You can then pay with crypto for future top ups.

    If someone is using cryptocurrency, it's specifically because they don't want to use card (or PayPal).

    So that kind of defeats the purpose...

    You’re right. If the reason for using crypto is to avoid cards entirely, requiring one for the initial verification defeats the purpose. Thanks for explaining it so clearly. We’ll bring this feedback to the team and review whether we can offer another way to verify accounts.

    There is some other ways. That can help.

    Thanks Josh. If you have a specific alternative in mind, feel free to share it so we can pass it on to the team.

  • [@require account verification with a credit card.

    What’re some of the correct phrases to inquire about this?

    Pay: yes
    Share street address with provider nope

  • hetzner is popular only for cheapest storage dedicated servers, but i dont find you alternative in any angle.

  • CubePathCubePath Member, Patron Provider

    @bdspice said:
    hetzner is popular only for cheapest storage dedicated servers, but i dont find you alternative in any angle.

    Fair point on storage dedicated servers. This post is specifically about Cloud VPS, which is where we're offering an alternative. Whether it makes sense depends on the configuration and location you need. What Hetzner setup are you comparing us with?

  • CubePathCubePath Member, Patron Provider

    @tenebriouslypuissant said:

    [@require account verification with a credit card.

    What’re some of the correct phrases to inquire about this?

    Pay: yes
    Share street address with provider nope

    We understand the privacy concern. We require a billing address both for invoicing and as part of payment verification to help prevent fraud. Card verification is also required before deploying a server.

  • @CubePath said: We understand the privacy concern. We require a billing address both for invoicing and as part of payment verification to help prevent fraud.

    And how, exactly, does that prevent fraud?

    When small hosts are getting breached and personal information leaked left and right, why would anyone, even a non-abuser, ever give you their real home address?

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  • CubePathCubePath Member, Patron Provider

    @forest said:

    @CubePath said: We understand the privacy concern. We require a billing address both for invoicing and as part of payment verification to help prevent fraud.

    And how, exactly, does that prevent fraud?

    When small hosts are getting breached and personal information leaked left and right, why would anyone, even a non-abuser, ever give you their real home address?

    Checking the billing address against the card is a standard fraud control used by card processors to flag stolen cards, and it's also required for invoicing. We never sell customer data or pass it to partners without consent, and we run a public bug bounty program to keep our systems secure.

  • @CubePath said:

    @forest said:

    @CubePath said: We understand the privacy concern. We require a billing address both for invoicing and as part of payment verification to help prevent fraud.

    And how, exactly, does that prevent fraud?

    When small hosts are getting breached and personal information leaked left and right, why would anyone, even a non-abuser, ever give you their real home address?

    Checking the billing address against the card is a standard fraud control used by card processors to flag stolen cards, and it's also required for invoicing. We never sell customer data or pass it to partners without consent, and we run a public bug bounty program to keep our systems secure.

    Most other providers here manage to do just fine without doing that, often by allowing cryptocurrency.

  • CubePathCubePath Member, Patron Provider
    edited October 15

    @forest said:

    @CubePath said:

    @forest said:

    @CubePath said: We understand the privacy concern. We require a billing address both for invoicing and as part of payment verification to help prevent fraud.

    And how, exactly, does that prevent fraud?

    When small hosts are getting breached and personal information leaked left and right, why would anyone, even a non-abuser, ever give you their real home address?

    Checking the billing address against the card is a standard fraud control used by card processors to flag stolen cards, and it's also required for invoicing. We never sell customer data or pass it to partners without consent, and we run a public bug bounty program to keep our systems secure.

    Most other providers here manage to do just fine without doing that, often by allowing cryptocurrency.

    We do accept cryptocurrency payments too. We understand everyone has different preferences, and you're free to choose the provider that best suits your needs.

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