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After Cpanel, WHMCS follows with another price increase announcement today! Really??
RHCHosting
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Thanks WHMCS! Here's to another price increase from WHMCS, after Cpanel announcement. These increases are becoming more and more ridiculous
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Can someone vibe-code a WHMCS alternative for me?
I use Paymenter & CE.
there are a lot of them already.
They're seeing how high they can take it before a meaningful drop in actual users. It's billing, so many companies already on their system will pay it rather than endure the massive pain that is switching to a competitor.
can you name few?
Not really, they are full of bugs and a few were rooted pretty quickly. Check the forum, a few people presented their panels here.
It's much more safe, to "Vibe code" if you know what your doing.
But that can be made easy i you dont want an entire WHMCS, Simple biling, management of just the services you provide any top-tier model makes short work of this.
A little knowledge and investigation into packages will help you massively, say you choose Python. Finding yourself on github or other platforms large contributed, long-existing actively used packages that handle billing, or interaction to DirectAmin, or any other API use one that is good and exists.
Largest problem with almost all of these "VIbe Coded" BS is not that the person can't code, they can't which is huge problem but you can still achieve safe code-bases relatively easy AI like's to simply start from 0 and it does a great job but bugs, exploits and easier to hit this way.
Running a safe language, within a safe web-framework with majority of code-base being existing packages not only will you have a product fast, it'll be a safe one.
E.g if you picked Golang providing a package like oauth https://github.com/golang/oauth2 wll have it directly leverage this safe-codebase rather than it attempt it's own auth system.
I believe the only reliable options are:
There may be others that I am not aware of, please free to mention them.
I think @tarisu said something against WiseCP
Hi!
Well, we did and they blocked us. We are working on our new website, we will be back soon. ( There is no interruptions on our services )
Regards.
I'm waiting for LET host to open source their hosting platform just to send a message
less customers paying more is probably a win right? anyway i'm sure you're right.
Coding is solved problem. You only need fantasy and plan. Buy few billion tokens and start generating.
Price increasing and amount of bugs too. But none will be solved until someone gets hacked again.
WHMCS is the slowest thing i have ever used in php,
Proove me wrong,
I cant see underlying code since it uses some dead-ass encryption but I am pretty sure it doesn't looks any good
Whmcs is laravel or symfony afaik. It is encrypted with ioncube, which is decent encryptor.
Idk but its either the dead ass encryption or whcms itself that's slow 🐌
There is also ours which is BillingServ
I like WHMCS because it is what I am used to, I have played with Blesta a bit and kind of fell in love with it, but I played it safe with WHMCS. In some aspects, Blesta sounds more secure than WHMCS, and without the $100 USD a month fee for having 1,000 clients, so much more easier to customise to.
VM6 could easily soak it up, but I am seriously considering moving to Blesta now as WebPros is just getting greedy. plus, the unpredictable hikes is a risk most business can do without.
Blesta is the only one I would consider recommending since only the licensing part is encoded I think. But in my opinion, you may as well roll your own billing system with AI dev tools if you have the know how.
What unpredictable hikes?
These have been predictables for years now!...like clockwork.
~ SMARTHOST
If they increased features and fixed ancient bugs, it may be worth it.
Instead half the new features are to push you to their marketplace apps to resell dumb shit.
They're so ashamed they won't even say what the increase is... They just link you to the PDF where the new prices are there... Its a two page document with the first page just a cover graphic.
https://www.whmcs.com/customer-licensing-guide/?utm_campaign=55340858-Price Increase 2027
Current pricing versus new pricing.
that's incrediable...
It's amazing how they effectively discourage hosts from having low-end customers, since they charge based on number of clients rather than, say, net revenue from clients.
They want whales despite being practically an Arch linux of hosting software
Net revenue is way more zealot approach then per customer count. For some single customer can bring millions.
Large B2B is always the goal, not small diletants.
But the moment they get big, they will ditch whmcs
Our licensing fees are high because of the per-client count. A domain customer who nets a couple dollars a year profit adds to that count, and they out number the VPS customers by a large margin.
Basically, "LOL sorry you're successful. You crossed an imaginary arbitrary threshold that we created so now you owe us more money because you have too many customers."
90% done.
I remember a time when everyone was saying, if you can't afford a WHMCS license for your hosting business, then you're either too cheap or going to deadpool, oh how the tables have turned 🤣