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Google to End Gemini Pro AI, Flash AI Models for Free Users from Oct 9
That's sad!
Just when I logged in there was a notification that my Gemini Pro AI model will be downgraded to Flash-lite and Deep Research revoked from October 9. (for all Gemini free users worldwide)
Then i asked Gemini itself about the reason.. than it pointed to rising cost of GPU and RAM to process queries for free users worldwide.
So from 9th October either I have to pay for Pro AI or just use Flash-Lite. Not even Flash.
Additionally, the Deep Research option will also not be available anymore for free users.
What are best free alternatives to Pro AI models (or equivalent). DeepSeek? Sonnet?
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I do not follow. The downgrade will be for all user or just for free users? I have got Pro and did not get any notifications, so I guess this is only for free users.
Just pay. If not, use openrouter's
ok boss.
free users.
Ah, this is expected then.
If you notice our comments become less witty after Oct 09, you know the reason.
thanks.
This is the same model available in Google Search AI-mode without login?
I think yes. comparing the results in Google AIO/AI mode and flash-lite which is their most basic and quickest model which uses less tokens for billions of queries that user type-in on google-search bar.
I think google is under pressure of using GPU and RAM for all those billions or trillions of queries that they send to AI to process (un-necessarily).
i notice i have sonnet/opus 5.5 now in agy.
I don't use it cause their API is even more filtered than their chat version. I'm always triggering their prohibited words when I'm not even using any naughty words and it works fine on their chat but not API
I have PRO and I didn't get any notification.
just buy the Jio link for 40 cents, which gives you an 18-month subscription to google ai pro. (I know that it is bannable)
Here's the link to the official support answer
https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/17004136
"Us" and "our" now makes much more sense when you refer to yourself now.
You can always read a thread topic before clicking into a thread. Sometimes, you don't even need to read the OP to know what it's about.
Basically you get a 8B model, you can also run on your hardware.
The only difference is, google isn't getting your data.
ChatGPT does the same, with their internal routing, you might suddenly speak to a 8B model or the fat one.
Except maybe you pay $$$$ on the API.
Quite frankly, the RAM shortage is also bad for Big Tech, the companies causing it.
If you want AI for all, you need AI efficient enough to not need a bazillion datacenters. China is doing it, and OpenAI/Anthropic/Google needs to follow suit.
That's correct. They purchased capacity in excess, financed by debts and risk absorbed by everyone's pension
This is what China zombie AI datacenters did from 2022-2025
Not surprised. I use Gemini for all of the basic dumb shit that I don't want to put towards my Claude sub usage.
There also Duck.ai to abus when we reach limit bro.
This may set precedent for other sota’s to remove free access alltogether. Cgpt have dirt cheap (8€/mo) plans to feed the poor. And almost all people on earth have tried one or another variant of llm and got hoocked. LLMoin is soooo good! You can snort, smoke, eat, drink, patch, put into anus or just plainly inject it.
The really large players are somewhat ok with high intro costs, this knocks out much competition. They can acquire talented startups for cheap instead of competing with them. The issue is one big player has a large advantage over the other big players, that's their worry.
What do you mean? China can and is building more datacenters than in the US. They just push through permits and whatnot and have many poor areas. There's no NIMBY, no billion dollar community funds, no lawsuits dragging things on, etc. They're probably hoarding the much needed transformers for their own datacenters and giving 3+ year lead times to the Americans.
China has a large advantage due to investing heavily in renewables. Meanwhile, Trump kneecaps the US by subsidizing coal instead of renewables and gave an advantage to the Chinese. He'd rather pick fights with energy suppliers like Canada and fuck around in Venezuela. He's truly not looking out for Americans, at all.
I also have the ai PRO same way, and I am using it for last six months or so.
Shit. I use Google AI studio ALOT.
Wow, AI prices go up after people get hooked and become helplessly dependent?
AI ate the whole datacenter and somehow we got the bill.
Meh… It’s shit anyway…
Hooray less vibe coded panels.
Now I understand why you always said "we".