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Should I move from dedicated servers to homelab?

I currently runs everything on OVH KS-2 and KS-LE-B, cost more than 400 USD per year. Should I use around 400 to 800 for a homelab PC?

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  • unsafetypinunsafetypin Member
    edited 3:33PM

    i personally run everything in my garage and then front with VPS at a few different providers. I have 2x ISP at home and then wireguard to connect everything up. I also managed to lease an IPv6 /48 and have Onidel announce this which has been pretty cool to have that public ip space available. my power cost is far more than 400 USD per year for cooling and rack power though...it depends on your needs and you would need to figure out what your actual costs would be

  • VPSPioneerVPSPioneer Member, Patron Provider

    It's everyone's dream indeed :smile: The concern is: handling traffic and attacks, possible fire, hardware issues and energy backup maybe more... But if you're only hosting your apps, you're always at home or designed well monitoring system and backup/coverage. Of course would be perfect for you.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    We run everything in the house and have DNS records pointed at the home router.
    Internet is $40/month and electricity is included in rent, so there's minimal cost.

    Edit: please stop nmap'ing us.

    Thanked by 1monsoon73
  • It depends on how much you're willing to invest.

    I would only self-host at home with a UPS, multiple ISPs with failover, enterprise hardware (ECC memory, enterprise drives) and good cooling.

    That is expensive, and a home setup still carries more risk than a provider.

    For critical services I would stay on dedicated servers(or veepeesss)

  • fredo1664fredo1664 Member
    edited 4:03PM

    I went the other way around, homelab moved to full specs KS-LE-B. I have only kept a small NAS at home, and even that I don't really need.

    Pretty happy with the setup. The monthly price is the final price, no electricity bill to monitor or 6483847 euro RAM sticks to buy as a spare.

  • AndruAndru Member

    Short answer, keep your dedis.

  • @Hitori0221 said:
    It depends on how much you're willing to invest.

    I would only self-host at home with a UPS, multiple ISPs with failover, enterprise hardware (ECC memory, enterprise drives) and good cooling.

    That is expensive, and a home setup still carries more risk than a provider.

    For critical services I would stay on dedicated servers(or veepeesss)

    the coolest thing i ended up doing was having 2x isp and then 2x firewalls, each one having one of the physical ISP connections, then adding routing between both so they both can use either ISP as failover. has saved me a few times now...

  • @fredo1664 said:
    I went the other way around, homelab moved to full specs KS-LE-B. I have only kept a small NAS at home, and even that I don't really need.

    Pretty happy with the setup. The monthly price is the final price, no electricity bill to monitor or 6483847 euro RAM sticks to buy as a spare.

    That’s exactly the reason I keep my Synology powered off. Price of HDD is crazy these days.

  • kukara4kukara4 Member, Patron Provider

    If you are asking this, probably nothing critical runs there. Move it home, why overpay

    Thanked by 1unsafetypin
  • FubukiFubuki Member

    selfhosting is fun, i just proxy via a vps over tailscale, unless i need something on 24/7 then maybe a vps would do. i would still spend more money on storage if i had the cash on hand and the market not being dumb atm

  • PuDLeZPuDLeZ Member

    What are you running? Is it public or personal? What would happen if there's an outage (power or internet)? What is your internet bandwidth like? What are your power costs? And th list goes on...

    I have a home lab but I also use both dedis and VPS. For dev/testing or most personal things that will just annoy me if it was down, 100% for a home lab. For "public" things, it's probably going to be a dedi/VPS. My previous place, the power would usually go out for a bit if there was a storm and comcast would randomly have outages at night weekly (besides possibly with a storm). My current place, the only power outage I've had is when they changed/upgraded the meters and comcast will go down about once a month. Comcast's upload speed sucks here though it's standable for just my personal stuff.

    P.S. Besides just pc/server cost, you really need to have it on an UPS so there's going to be an additional cost...

  • bugabugabugabuga Member

    I'm spending €516/yr on just my 3 kimsufi.. Can buy a lot of used Dell on ebay for that!

  • @unsafetypin said:
    i personally run everything in my garage and then front with VPS at a few different providers. I have 2x ISP at home and then wireguard to connect everything up. I also managed to lease an IPv6 /48 and have Onidel announce this which has been pretty cool to have that public ip space available. my power cost is far more than 400 USD per year for cooling and rack power though...it depends on your needs and you would need to figure out what your actual costs would be

    I was thinking to get a single 5700x, and power cost for that won't be so expensive, i don't think it will be fully loaded 24/7

  • @PuDLeZ said:
    What are you running? Is it public or personal? What would happen if there's an outage (power or internet)? What is your internet bandwidth like? What are your power costs? And th list goes on...

    I have a home lab but I also use both dedis and VPS. For dev/testing or most personal things that will just annoy me if it was down, 100% for a home lab. For "public" things, it's probably going to be a dedi/VPS. My previous place, the power would usually go out for a bit if there was a storm and comcast would randomly have outages at night weekly (besides possibly with a storm). My current place, the only power outage I've had is when they changed/upgraded the meters and comcast will go down about once a month. Comcast's upload speed sucks here though it's standable for just my personal stuff.

    P.S. Besides just pc/server cost, you really need to have it on an UPS so there's going to be an additional cost...

    Apps I use personally and some public website like portfolio. I am already routing everything through a single VPS with nginx.

    I have good internet, no power outage, but its saving money while having some risks i guess

  • kkonekokkoneko Member

    Depends. Do you need it on 24/7? Do you need it to have good connection to outside of your home?

    A mini pc like those from Lenovo or HP will work fine, won't cost arm and leg, won't sip much power. The only issue is if your home internet is good enough for your use case.

  • @Hitori0221 said: how much you're willing to invest

    Probably around how much the dedi cost for 1 or 2 years

  • @kkoneko said:
    Depends. Do you need it on 24/7? Do you need it to have good connection to outside of your home?

    A mini pc like those from Lenovo or HP will work fine, won't cost arm and leg, won't sip much power. The only issue is if your home internet is good enough for your use case.

    do need it to be 24/7 and have good internet

    only downside as others mentioned is the risk of things like power or internet outage

  • @nameserver said:

    @unsafetypin said:
    i personally run everything in my garage and then front with VPS at a few different providers. I have 2x ISP at home and then wireguard to connect everything up. I also managed to lease an IPv6 /48 and have Onidel announce this which has been pretty cool to have that public ip space available. my power cost is far more than 400 USD per year for cooling and rack power though...it depends on your needs and you would need to figure out what your actual costs would be

    I was thinking to get a single 5700x, and power cost for that won't be so expensive, i don't think it will be fully loaded 24/7

    yeah I mean, ebay is your friend too. I use a 7302p with a supermicro chassis and board from an ebay seller. has enough pcie lanes for my gpus. way overkill some of the time but I needed the headroom. I have 1 jbod for primary storage that is zfs with a hba passed to a VM, 1 jbod for backup storage using mergerfs and independent disks, no stripe. then backup all my data to a storage vps encrypted prior to sending

  • PuDLeZPuDLeZ Member
    edited 5:17PM

    @nameserver said:

    @PuDLeZ said:
    What are you running? Is it public or personal? What would happen if there's an outage (power or internet)? What is your internet bandwidth like? What are your power costs? And th list goes on...

    I have a home lab but I also use both dedis and VPS. For dev/testing or most personal things that will just annoy me if it was down, 100% for a home lab. For "public" things, it's probably going to be a dedi/VPS. My previous place, the power would usually go out for a bit if there was a storm and comcast would randomly have outages at night weekly (besides possibly with a storm). My current place, the only power outage I've had is when they changed/upgraded the meters and comcast will go down about once a month. Comcast's upload speed sucks here though it's standable for just my personal stuff.

    P.S. Besides just pc/server cost, you really need to have it on an UPS so there's going to be an additional cost...

    Apps I use personally and some public website like portfolio. I am already routing everything through a single VPS with nginx.

    I have good internet, no power outage, but its saving money while having some risks i guess

    Then I say go with the home lab. You can just use an old desktop or laptop (make sure to remove battery or cap the max charge % if supported) if you want but I've found minipc are nice (unless you need ecc or gpu).

    BTW, black friday is coming up relatively soon and there's always some great deals if you're able to get them! Should be perfect for something like the portfolio/stuff that's more for the public while keeping costs down.

  • slowserversslowservers Member, Host Rep

    I am all for self-hosting, but I don't because I don't have reliable transit here.

    My internet options are Starlink (which has rather limited uplink and I'd prefer not to put even more bandwidth over) and DSL that goes down when the power goes out. I would prefer a fiber ring to host anything serious.

    I colocate up in Spokane which is about an hour and 45 minutes from me. This gives me great transit options and I can drive to it. I would rather have my own server shed with solar power, but the transit options are so poor by comparison.

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