Netcup price increase (September 2026)

oloke · 2:48PM

About an hour ago, Alexander Windbichler (netcup's CEO) posted a thread "RAMpocalypse: We need to talk about pricing ... again" on netcup forums, explaining the reasoning about this new price increase (mainly RAM prices) and discussing sustainability of their operations going forward:

Unfortunately, due to our contracts we are not allowed to publish prices, but we are seeing these 5x on the price from about a year ago also in our purchase prices.

All analyst reports – and we review them several times a week – continue to indicate no improvement in the situation. In addition, our purchase prices for new hardware are rising weekly – so we need to take action.

So we were faced with four options:

- We're selling off everything we have and marking our products as sold out.
- We are massively overbooking our servers
- We're keeping prices the same, but drastically reducing product specifications.
- We adapt our products to the market level and have at least one offering on the market.

The important part for customers:

Existing contracts remain unchanged (= they will not be increased), and you can still upgrade them at the old price (see "Benefits for existing contracts" for details).

VPS Lite:

- We have increased the prices for VPS Lite servers by up to 20%.
- The server specifications remain the same.

VPS:

- The prices for x86 VPS are being increased by up to 40%.
- In addition, we are reducing the disk storage. This is based on a prior analysis of actual disk usage.
- We will continue to provision our VPS on flash-based storage with RAID 6, we just can't guarantee NVMe.

Root Servers:

- Root Server prices are being increased by between 70% and 110%.
- In addition, we are reducing the disk storage. This is based on a prior analysis of actual disk usage.
- We have also introduced an RS 500 so that you can get the benefits of a Root Server for smaller systems too.
- We have brought the large RS 12000 and RS 16000 systems back into our lineup, but for now they are only available on request.

I believe there was already one price increase at the start of the year.
Given current market situation and the previous netcup server prices, I can't say I'm surprised...

Personally I think the situation is handled quite well with existing contracts unaffected and it also appears users with existing contracts are able to scale up their services at the old rates.

rpqu · 2:48PM

It's over

oloke · 2:48PM

cc: @awindbichler

Levi · 2:50PM

Gg. Voided provider. Well, lets go to another.

mrerenk · 2:51PM

Thats just crazy

itzsenu · 2:52PM

Imagine telling someone in 2024 that RAM would become the expensive part of a VPS.

Nekopara · 2:55PM

all this and we have to read Ai slop on a daily basis, truely the worst timeline

Motion3549 · 2:56PM

as long as netcup believes it's prem i believe and trust netcup.

ehab · 2:59PM

@itzsenu said:
Imagine telling someone in 2024 that RAM would become the expensive part of a VPS.

imagine someone in 2008 telling bitcoine goes 100k

buggedout · 2:59PM

I hope providers bring back old price if RAM prices go back to normal....

Blembim · 3:00PM

:<

nghialele · 3:02PM

The end is here

rpqu · 3:03PM

@itzsenu said:
Imagine telling someone in 2024 that RAM would become the expensive part of a VPS.

RAM can last 10Y+. But NVMe has to be replaced every 3y or so

amarc · 3:06PM

LOL, only reason they were interesting (if even that) is that I could get 1TB/2TB storage with 32GB RAM or similar. WTF am I going to do with 32GB RAM and 512GB storage ? And for 2TB I now have to pay 280 EUR per month (without VAT).

allthemtings · 3:10PM

nerds

zrj766 · 3:19PM

Netcup has held out for quite a long time. Compared to Hetzner Cloud and Dataforest Cloud, they've only announced one price hike, and this time existing services didn't see an increase either.

It's also impressive that OVH still offers ECO servers at such low prices. Even with DDR5 memory, they've managed to avoid raising prices, though who knows how much longer that will last.

OhJohn · 3:19PM

So on Sunday i thought about ordering a vps lite pico. Forgot about it and now here we are.

memok · 3:21PM

It’s unbelievable.
They had already raised prices and closed off stock—new orders couldn't be placed for certain products.
Then, they made the stock available again—but only after raising prices once more.
A second price hike just drives you away, and I’m certain that’s exactly what will happen.

To be honest, I think there will be another increase in February following this second hike.

Tion · 3:21PM

@rpqu said:
It's over

Not yet. When ovh increases pricing of existing kimsufi dedis it's truly ogre.

rpqu · 3:23PM

@memok said:
It’s unbelievable.
They had already raised prices and closed off stock—new orders couldn't be placed for certain products.
Then, they made the stock available again—but only after raising prices once more.
A second price hike just drives you away, and I’m certain that’s exactly what will happen.

It means they run out of stock at that price level. That's normal business practice

Hitori0221 · 3:24PM

You can register a domain such as RAMpocalypse.ai to be qualified for price hike

memok · 3:26PM

ovh eco keep going :=)

itzsenu · 3:30PM

@rpqu said: RAM can last 10Y+. I can't trust consumer NVMe to last more than 3Y

how cursed it would be to use the RAM itself as the storage layer. tmpfs/brd/zram exist, so technically you can turn a chunk of your RAM into a disk

Click to unleash the RAM disk

sudo bash -c '
set -euo pipefail
MNT=/mnt/ramdisk
SIZE=32G
DEV=/dev/ram0

if [[ "$SIZE" =~ ^([0-9]+)[Gg]$ ]]; then
    RD_SIZE_KB=$((BASH_REMATCH[1]*1024*1024))
elif [[ "$SIZE" =~ ^([0-9]+)[Mm]$ ]]; then
    RD_SIZE_KB=$((BASH_REMATCH[1]*1024))
else
    RD_SIZE_KB=$((32*1024*1024))
    SIZE=32G
fi

OWNER="${SUDO_USER:-$(id -un)}"
GROUP="${SUDO_GID:-$(id -gn)}"

id -u "$OWNER" >/dev/null 2>&1 || {
    OWNER="$(id -un)"
    GROUP="$(id -gn)"
}

mkdir -p "$MNT"
umount "$MNT" 2>/dev/null || true
USE_BRD=0

if command -v modprobe >/dev/null 2>&1; then
    if ! test -b "$DEV"; then
        modprobe brd rd_nr=1 rd_size="$RD_SIZE_KB" 2>/dev/null || true
    fi

    if test -b "$DEV"; then
        wipefs -af "$DEV" >/dev/null 2>&1 || true

        if mkfs.ext4 -F -m 0 -O ^has_journal -L RAMDISK "$DEV" >/dev/null 2>&1; then
            if mount -t ext4 -o noatime,nodiratime "$DEV" "$MNT" 2>/dev/null; then
                USE_BRD=1
            fi
        fi
    fi
fi

if [ "$USE_BRD" -eq 0 ]; then
    grep -q tmpfs /proc/filesystems || exit 1
    mount -t tmpfs -o "size=${SIZE},mode=1777,noatime,nodiratime" tmpfs "$MNT" \
        || mount -t tmpfs -o "mode=1777,noatime" tmpfs "$MNT"
fi

chown "$OWNER:$GROUP" "$MNT" 2>/dev/null || true
chmod 1777 "$MNT" 2>/dev/null || true

findmnt "$MNT"
df -hT "$MNT"

TESTFILE="$MNT/.ramdisk_test"
echo ok > "$TESTFILE"
cat "$TESTFILE" >/dev/null
rm -f "$TESTFILE"

echo "[+] RAM disk ready: $MNT"
'

unmount: sudo umount /mnt/ramdisk

verify: df -hT /mnt/ramdisk && findmnt /mnt/ramdisk

nghialele · 3:31PM

At this rate next year im sign out of the internet and live in cave .

rpqu · 3:33PM

@Tion said:

@rpqu said:
It's over

Not yet. When ovh increases pricing of existing kimsufi dedis it's truly ogre.

Mjj will get a meltdown as they're trading at 30-50 month difference > @itzsenu said:

@rpqu said: RAM can last 10Y+. I can't trust consumer NVMe to last more than 3Y

how cursed it would be to use the RAM itself as the storage layer. tmpfs/brd/zram exist, so technically you can turn a chunk of your RAM into a disk
Click to unleash the RAM disk

```sudo bash -c '
set -euo pipefail
MNT=/mnt/ramdisk
SIZE=32G
DEV=/dev/ram0

if [[ "$SIZE" =~ ^([0-9]+)[Gg]$ ]]; then
RD_SIZE_KB=$((BASH_REMATCH[1]10241024))
elif [[ "$SIZE" =~ ^([0-9]+)[Mm]$ ]]; then
RD_SIZE_KB=$((BASH_REMATCH[1]1024))
else
RD_SIZE_KB=$((321024*1024))
SIZE=32G
fi

OWNER="${SUDO_USER:-$(id -un)}"
GROUP="${SUDO_GID:-$(id -gn)}"

id -u "$OWNER" >/dev/null 2>&1 || {
OWNER="$(id -un)"
GROUP="$(id -gn)"
}

mkdir -p "$MNT"
umount "$MNT" 2>/dev/null || true
USE_BRD=0

if command -v modprobe >/dev/null 2>&1; then
if ! test -b "$DEV"; then
modprobe brd rd_nr=1 rd_size="$RD_SIZE_KB" 2>/dev/null || true
fi
if test -b "$DEV"; then
    wipefs -af "$DEV" >/dev/null 2>&1 || true

    if mkfs.ext4 -F -m 0 -O ^has_journal -L RAMDISK "$DEV" >/dev/null 2>&1; then
        if mount -t ext4 -o noatime,nodiratime "$DEV" "$MNT" 2>/dev/null; then
            USE_BRD=1
        fi
    fi
fi
fi

if [ "$USE_BRD" -eq 0 ]; then
grep -q tmpfs /proc/filesystems || exit 1
mount -t tmpfs -o "size=${SIZE},mode=1777,noatime,nodiratime" tmpfs "$MNT" \
|| mount -t tmpfs -o "mode=1777,noatime" tmpfs "$MNT"
fi

chown "$OWNER:$GROUP" "$MNT" 2>/dev/null || true
chmod 1777 "$MNT" 2>/dev/null || true

findmnt "$MNT"
df -hT "$MNT"

TESTFILE="$MNT/.ramdisk_test"
echo ok > "$TESTFILE"
cat "$TESTFILE" >/dev/null
rm -f "$TESTFILE"

echo "[+] RAM disk ready: $MNT"
'
```

unmount:
sudo umount /mnt/ramdisk

verify:
df -hT /mnt/ramdisk && findmnt /mnt/ramdisk

That's what I do with my machine. Use ramdisk for quick&dirty jobs. Reduce wearout.

Motion3549 · 3:36PM

@buggedout said:
I hope providers bring back old price if RAM prices go back to normal....

Tim Cook: hold my beer!!!

Neoon · 3:41PM

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