After 25 years, Italian email provider Autistici/Inventati shuts down due to US government pressure

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• rpqu Member

  1:01AM

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• itzsenu Member

  1:06AM

  

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• OpaqueRegistrant Member

  2:07AM

  It's possible they are continuing under a different name, only shrugging off the organisation name and its terrorist designation. If they were doing this, nobody would know.
• forest Member

  2:21AM edited 2:22AM

  @OpaqueRegistrant said:
  It's possible they are continuing under a different name, only shrugging off the organisation name and its terrorist designation. If they were doing this, nobody would know.

  They're a small group and all the donation money they've collected has been seized by their Italian bank (because the bank is afraid of secondary sanctions), and it costs them over 13k EUR annually to run everything. Now they have nothing. It also takes a lot of time to build up a good reputation and user base.

  I think they really are shutting down.
• rpqu Member

  3:26AM edited 3:28AM

  @forest said:

  @OpaqueRegistrant said:
  It's possible they are continuing under a different name, only shrugging off the organisation name and its terrorist designation. If they were doing this, nobody would know.

  They're a small group and all the donation money they've collected has been seized by their Italian bank (because the bank is afraid of secondary sanctions), and it costs them over 13k EUR annually to run everything. Now they have nothing. It also takes a lot of time to build up a good reputation and user base.

  I think they really are shutting down.

  Should have gone to RU
  
• forest Member

  3:28AM

  @rpqu said: Should have gone to RU

  I'm pretty sure an anti-authoritarian collective would rather not be under the jurisdiction of yet another authoritarian government.

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• JerryHou Veteran

  3:42AM

  with AI vibe coding, I think we will see many self-host email server ???
• forest Member

  3:45AM

  @JerryHou said:
  with AI vibe coding, I think we will see many self-host email server ???

  The problem is deliverability, not figuring out how to set up a mail server. Plus, A/I was free. Slop tokens, domains, a server, and time to troubleshoot are not.

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• DanSummer Member

  3:49AM

  @rpqu said:
  Should have gone to RU

  That must be a joke. LOL
• OpaqueRegistrant Member

  3:53AM

  @forest said:

  @JerryHou said:
  with AI vibe coding, I think we will see many self-host email server ???

  The problem is deliverability, not figuring out how to set up a mail server. Plus, A/I was free. Slop tokens, domains, a server, and time to troubleshoot are not.

  @forest said:

  @JerryHou said:
  with AI vibe coding, I think we will see many self-host email server ???

  The problem is deliverability, not figuring out how to set up a mail server. Plus, A/I was free. Slop tokens, domains, a server, and time to troubleshoot are not.

  If we all self-host, then it becomes irrelevant whether or not Google accepts our mails to each other.
• JerryHou Veteran

  4:14AM

  @forest said:

  @JerryHou said:
  with AI vibe coding, I think we will see many self-host email server ???

  The problem is deliverability, not figuring out how to set up a mail server. Plus, A/I was free. Slop tokens, domains, a server, and time to troubleshoot are not.

  yeah, I guess it's more related to "whether my mail will be received" than "how can I send it out"...
• Mainfrezzer Member

  4:28AM edited 4:29AM

  Faster than I anticipated, but not unexpected as eluded to in the other post