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MXroute Disses DirectAdmin
raindog308
Administrator, Veteran
Email I just got:
Apologies to customers that are unware of our previous panel, DirectAdmin. If you've never used DirectAdmin (and you would know, it's horrible), you can ignore this email.
Horrible?
They go more into it here: https://blog.mxroute.com/ripping-off-bandages
I've never been a fan of any hosting panel but I didn't think DirectAdmin was horrible when I've used it.
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It isn't great but it is at least a billion times better than cpanel whm
possibly it sucks harder as an email hosting panel
Compared to virtualmin and ispconfig, going to directadmin is like going from sticks and stones to 20th century implements. For $5/month and two sites, it's a bargain. MXRoute needed to build something in-house -- but that's expensive.
The major sticking point to me is they're building it all in house with AI. I don't doubt jar's skills, but they're replacing DirectAdmin, HostBill and CrossBox. It's not an easy task.
I'm not convinced and think it'll lead to more chaos down the line. I very much would like to be proven wrong.
DirectAdmin is a great panel, even I use it for my main sites. Probably one of the best to use for your own stuff. Clearly using it to offer commercial email services is going to bottleneck you in more than one way. It's one reason I never tried offering a "real" public email service, it needs a custom solution to do it properly.
You can do a lot as a competent person using AI dev tools really. I plan to replace my game panel with a custom one so I have much more flexibility and better features. It all comes down to the people using it. I think Jar deciding to using a custom solution is going to be great long term.
lol kinda dissing buyvm too https://old.reddit.com/r/mxroute/comments/1vq89lb/acadia_mailservers_down/
All is fair in love and email.
Good luck then.
I didn't see him go into detail. He's modding it for another purpose, it's going to break and he'll have to fix it.
This is hardly "news".
cPanel and DirectAdmin break all the time now with updates. Sometimes an update is one step forward (yay, a bug fix or vuln patch!) and two steps backwards (woops, we broke IMAP or letsencrypt doesn't work now!)
He's not the only one using AI assistance to build bespoke stacks for his needs. I don't get the AI hate personally... He's competent enough to do more than just say, "Claude build a suite of email hosting tools and make no mistakes" and isn't stupid enough to risk an established business on a rushed migration to an untested in-house stack.
It's a bit different than some random host writing a new VPS panel in two weeks and rushing it into production.
gotta love it when LET's top dawg advertises mxroute for free
damnit jar, you really got a rent free in this place
It seems that their brand-new website and system are vibe-coded.
I think they have to, to stay afloat with the rising subscription fees. Or they need to raise their prices and LET users hate that even more.
What a great idea
What could possibly go wrong
It's not bad, especially for web hosting management, which is its core purpose.
I'm a simple man, I use mxroute and Thunderbird, couldn't care about this hullaballo
Least cPanel allows you to upgrade MariaDB past 10.6 unlike DA if you have a lifetime license.
Is crossbox no longer around in mxroute?
DirectAdmin is way much better than cPanel IMO.
Maybe everyone should switch over to the whole host of new panels coming out over the last few months, I heard they are simply the best
Moron picks bad solution for use case
Moron cries about it later
Not news
That's a freaking easy fix for DA.
You can rewrite the mysql -v output or mariadb -v output to return 10.6 and install whatever newer version you want. DA will still work.
We published a hacky hack a little way back: https://www.serverspan.com/en/blog/tutorial-how-to-use-mariadb-11-4-with-a-legacy-directadmin-environment-on-debian-the-sysadmin-way
Yeah but that's effort sir, should be easy and allowed. No hacks needed.
Meh.
All web panels are garbage and inhibit a hosts potential, custom only solution.
Just don't vibe one.
This is true, can be done but requires basic knowledge and heavy usage of pre-existing secure packages to ensure it’s safe for most.
Ya, it's good when you know, but not when you don't as we've seen far to many times on LET when people get hacked within a nano second.
Yeah, this is people who don’t even know the language the model is using, they need to remove direct git integration into these platforms, if they have to figure out git manually i feel like it’s a default captcha to IQ