The Eternal Väinämöinen -- Seedboxes Starting From 1.99€/Month or 6.99€/Year -- 700 Years Give Away

stupidgenius · 2:41AM

@jaden said: It would be nice to have some way of roughly predicting when an item will be back in stock. Refreshing gets old.

@ymcoming said:
When will it be back in stock?

If you join their discord, they have a bot that (usually) posts when items are dropped.

Or just watch: https://pulsedmedia.com/data/v1/eternal-drops-audit.jsonl

lotric · 2:47AM

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stupidgenius · 2:53AM

@PulsedMedia said: All outgoing is counted regardless of protocol as well. I'll have that updated.

Question about internal traffic, Väinämöinen wasn't certain(Ticket #436375), how to determine if my services are in the same datacenter or different datacenters?

And if my seedbox and storage box are in different data centers is "internal" data between them treated as internal or external?

EDIT - I did some ping tests between services and noticed some response "this-is-hosted-by.magnacapax.fi" and others are more typical ip addresses.

64 bytes from this-is-hosted-by.magnacapax.fi (185.148.1.202): icmp_seq=6 ttl=63 time=0.366 ms
64 bytes from this-is-hosted-by.magnacapax.fi (185.148.1.202): icmp_seq=7 ttl=63 time=0.301 ms
64 bytes from this-is-hosted-by.magnacapax.fi (185.148.1.202): icmp_seq=8 ttl=63 time=0.263 ms
64 bytes from this-is-hosted-by.magnacapax.fi (185.148.1.202): icmp_seq=9 ttl=63 time=0.282 ms
64 bytes from this-is-hosted-by.magnacapax.fi (185.148.1.202): icmp_seq=10 ttl=63 time=0.283 ms


PING le4-0-106-223mizraim.pulsedmedia.com (185.148.0.223) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 185.148.0.223 (185.148.0.223): icmp_seq=1 ttl=63 time=8.12 ms
64 bytes from 185.148.0.223 (185.148.0.223): icmp_seq=2 ttl=63 time=8.16 ms
64 bytes from 185.148.0.223 (185.148.0.223): icmp_seq=3 ttl=63 time=8.73 ms

PulsedMedia · 5:30AM

@Nuke142 said:
When new DC with new minidedis?

We are waiting Elisa to repair the DWDM, and our DC hands on guy was saying he will get the first half a rack setup within a week.
That being said, i am myself incredibly busy so no ETA when they hit the sales page yet.

@drizbo said:
Do you have any "seedbox" with GPU/igpu? tyvm

Yes, the MD series but currently out of stock with no ETA.

LEmeINalr · 6:32AM

@rpqu said: Q1: use ssh username@*.mcx.fi (username and password sent to you via email, or add public key)
Q2: Yes, the same as Q1
Q3: no root. Just use docker image or portable binary

Yes, PM offerings are pretty much similar to any other seedbox provider out there with shared app slots. I have used their M1000 boxes for torrenting (nov 2024 offers anyone?) and they can down single torrents at 200MB/s or 3-4 at that combined rate. Upload speeds are not much (50-60MBps at max) but I can't really complain at the price I got it.

PM storage boxes will work great for doing LTS and not racing (haven't used their ssd boxes) your linux iso's.

Oughta mention that speeds matter more on many factors like the peering, network speeds of your peers, routing from finland to NL, disk i/o etc etc.

LEmeINalr · 6:38AM

Waiting for the new annual offer personally, hoping something pops up by this weekend.

rpqu · 6:40AM

@LEmeINalr said:

@rpqu said: Q1: use ssh username@*.mcx.fi (username and password sent to you via email, or add public key)
Q2: Yes, the same as Q1
Q3: no root. Just use docker image or portable binary

Yes, PM offerings are pretty much same to any other seedbox provider out there with shared app slots. I have used their M1000 boxes for torrenting (nov 2024 offers anyone?) and they can down single torrents at 200MB/s or 3-4 at that combined rate. Upload speeds are not much (50-60MBps at max) but I can't really complain at the price I got it.

PM storage boxes will work great for doing LTS and not racing (haven't used their ssd boxes) your linux iso's.

Oughta mention that speeds matter more on many factors like the peering, network speeds of your peers, routing from finland to NL, disk i/o etc etc.

Racing is hard. Many people are on bigger pipe and on the other side of the planet. That's why there's a niche for @PulsedMedia dedi or people using their own residential connection

LEmeINalr · 6:43AM

Yes, there's no way to compete with people running 25G dedi boxes with any shared seedbox no matter what libtorrent tuning we do. Not unless you grab a dedi yourself or else have to be satisfied with ratios of 1,2,3:1 xD

PulsedMedia · 8:30AM

@rpqu said:

@jsg said:
@PulseMedia

I have three simple questions and a remark.

I never used torrent or the like, so I'm a total noob with that. But no problem (I thought) as I had planned to use it as storage only (and maybe, just maybe, sometimes later learn about the torrent stuff).
Unfortunately you pretty much shocked and overwhelmed me (again, I'm a noob with that, and maybe my feedback is helpful to you) by welcoming me on a web page with tons and tons of stuff - but no simple info, at all (plus that Vinäi[whatever] beast seems to be on meth and dumping way too much blabla at us).

So,

question 1: Is there a simple way to login to a simple ssh shell? If so, please point me to the relevant KB section (preferably without ai slop)

question 2: Is there a way to use scp to put files on or get files from the seed box? If so, please point me to the relevant KB section (preferably without ai slop)

question 3: How can I install some linux program in my seedbox? Please point me to the relevant KB section (preferably without ai slop)

Any help would be appreciated.

Q1: use ssh username@*.mcx.fi (username and password sent to you via email, or add public key)
Q2: Yes, the same as Q1
Q3: no root. Just use docker image or portable binary

Yes, and i would add https://wiki.pulsedmedia.com/ has plenty of information, there is also installer for https://www.linuxserver.io/our-images docker containers etc. and Väinämöinen will help you further.

The possibilities are nearly as abundant as an VPS -- since you can essentially run an VPS in these. Just launch the Ubuntu docker container

PulsedMedia · 9:31AM

@deafcon said:

@TimboJones said:

@forest said:

@TimboJones said:

@forest said:

@TimboJones said: Every server will be running from swap and all hosts on the node will suffer.

Is there evidence that the host is using swap?

Can you run 256MB RAM without swap and without crashing?

Oh, you meant the guest would be using swap and the node would suffer from I/O. I thought you meant the host was using swap to oversell RAM.

But yeah, Alpine and rtorrent can easily fit in 256 MB without thrashing the disk. If every idiot tries to install Debian or Ubuntu though, it'll be a clusterfuck.

Install is one thing, but can you use it to download a week of TV without it shitting the bed? 10 x 10GB active torrents? Actual use cases.

I did a test just for you. I activated PM's pre-installed qBittorrent-nox (version 4.5.2) on the 250mb box that I have and loaded in 60 torrents totaling 918gb. It's consuming less than 50mb of RAM. PM's telemetry says that I'm consuming 45mb of process and 55mb of cache. All of those linux ISOs were originally donwloaded to the machine using qbit 5.2.3 installed directly in my user space (on the raid array, not installed on the OS drive like the 4.5.2 version I'm running). It works fine if you're OK with slow. Note that these 250mb boxes are marketed as storage, not seedboxes. The fact that you can run qbit on them is an extra benefit.

This is quite interesting, we should porobably do a wiki page doing comparisons like this.

The default setup is indeed very very RAM frugal.
We have plenty of 128-256G nodes where RAM use is like ... 25G Typical user uses less than 1G. It's all about page cache/disk buffering ultimately.

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PulsedMedia · 4:18PM

@stupidgenius said:

@PulsedMedia said: All outgoing is counted regardless of protocol as well. I'll have that updated.

Question about internal traffic, Väinämöinen wasn't certain(Ticket #436375), how to determine if my services are in the same datacenter or different datacenters?

And if my seedbox and storage box are in different data centers is "internal" data between them treated as internal or external?

EDIT - I did some ping tests between services and noticed some response "this-is-hosted-by.magnacapax.fi" and others are more typical ip addresses.
64 bytes from this-is-hosted-by.magnacapax.fi (185.148.1.202): icmp_seq=6 ttl=63 time=0.366 ms
64 bytes from this-is-hosted-by.magnacapax.fi (185.148.1.202): icmp_seq=7 ttl=63 time=0.301 ms
64 bytes from this-is-hosted-by.magnacapax.fi (185.148.1.202): icmp_seq=8 ttl=63 time=0.263 ms
64 bytes from this-is-hosted-by.magnacapax.fi (185.148.1.202): icmp_seq=9 ttl=63 time=0.282 ms
64 bytes from this-is-hosted-by.magnacapax.fi (185.148.1.202): icmp_seq=10 ttl=63 time=0.283 ms


PING le4-0-106-223mizraim.pulsedmedia.com (185.148.0.223) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 185.148.0.223 (185.148.0.223): icmp_seq=1 ttl=63 time=8.12 ms
64 bytes from 185.148.0.223 (185.148.0.223): icmp_seq=2 ttl=63 time=8.16 ms
64 bytes from 185.148.0.223 (185.148.0.223): icmp_seq=3 ttl=63 time=8.73 ms

It's our own network, should eventually update the wording that both our DCs are covered.

The "free" IP range is set by backend automation into the /etc/seedbox/config directory, fdorgot filename. Afaik that is readable. might need tobe exposed on GUI INFO tab tho.

@LEmeINalr said:

@rpqu said: Q1: use ssh username@*.mcx.fi (username and password sent to you via email, or add public key)
Q2: Yes, the same as Q1
Q3: no root. Just use docker image or portable binary

Yes, PM offerings are pretty much similar to any other seedbox provider out there with shared app slots. I have used their M1000 boxes for torrenting (nov 2024 offers anyone?) and they can down single torrents at 200MB/s or 3-4 at that combined rate. Upload speeds are not much (50-60MBps at max) but I can't really complain at the price I got it.

PM storage boxes will work great for doing LTS and not racing (haven't used their ssd boxes) your linux iso's.

Oughta mention that speeds matter more on many factors like the peering, network speeds of your peers, routing from finland to NL, disk i/o etc etc.

That is well put and worded. 👍

@LEmeINalr said:
Yes, there's no way to compete with people running 25G dedi boxes with any shared seedbox no matter what libtorrent tuning we do. Not unless you grab a dedi yourself or else have to be satisfied with ratios of 1,2,3:1 xD

... yet that is the usual complain, why our 5€/month 1Gbps offer cannot compete with 50-100G NVMe RAID offer :O ... i wish i was joking.

These are not for racing, they are more like trucks than ferraris. Haul a lot of tonnage (data), but with latency.

rpqu · 4:30PM

@PulsedMedia said:

@LEmeINalr said:
Yes, there's no way to compete with people running 25G dedi boxes with any shared seedbox no matter what libtorrent tuning we do. Not unless you grab a dedi yourself or else have to be satisfied with ratios of 1,2,3:1 xD

... yet that is the usual complain, why our 5€/month 1Gbps offer cannot compete with 50-100G NVMe RAID offer :O ... i wish i was joking.

These are not for racing, they are more like trucks than ferraris. Haul a lot of tonnage (data), but with latency.

You should have upsell your dedi
To bad it's OOS

PulsedMedia · 5:01PM

@rpqu said:

@PulsedMedia said:

@LEmeINalr said:
Yes, there's no way to compete with people running 25G dedi boxes with any shared seedbox no matter what libtorrent tuning we do. Not unless you grab a dedi yourself or else have to be satisfied with ratios of 1,2,3:1 xD

... yet that is the usual complain, why our 5€/month 1Gbps offer cannot compete with 50-100G NVMe RAID offer :O ... i wish i was joking.

These are not for racing, they are more like trucks than ferraris. Haul a lot of tonnage (data), but with latency.

You should have upsell your dedi
To bad it's OOS

That's the plan when it is done

But .... Well delay after another.

deafcon · 5:15PM

@PulsedMedia said:

@deafcon said:

@TimboJones said:

@forest said:

@TimboJones said:

@forest said:

@TimboJones said: Every server will be running from swap and all hosts on the node will suffer.

Is there evidence that the host is using swap?

Can you run 256MB RAM without swap and without crashing?

Oh, you meant the guest would be using swap and the node would suffer from I/O. I thought you meant the host was using swap to oversell RAM.

But yeah, Alpine and rtorrent can easily fit in 256 MB without thrashing the disk. If every idiot tries to install Debian or Ubuntu though, it'll be a clusterfuck.

Install is one thing, but can you use it to download a week of TV without it shitting the bed? 10 x 10GB active torrents? Actual use cases.

I did a test just for you. I activated PM's pre-installed qBittorrent-nox (version 4.5.2) on the 250mb box that I have and loaded in 60 torrents totaling 918gb. It's consuming less than 50mb of RAM. PM's telemetry says that I'm consuming 45mb of process and 55mb of cache. All of those linux ISOs were originally donwloaded to the machine using qbit 5.2.3 installed directly in my user space (on the raid array, not installed on the OS drive like the 4.5.2 version I'm running). It works fine if you're OK with slow. Note that these 250mb boxes are marketed as storage, not seedboxes. The fact that you can run qbit on them is an extra benefit.

This is quite interesting, we should porobably do a wiki page doing comparisons like this.

The default setup is indeed very very RAM frugal.
We have plenty of 128-256G nodes where RAM use is like ... 25G Typical user uses less than 1G. It's all about page cache/disk buffering ultimately.

FYI, qbit 5.2.3 seeding the same torrents is consuming 45-65mb, so not a ton more.

LEmeINalr · 5:56PM

Offtopic but something that I noticed from the Eternal Vainamoinen (excuse the spelling my keeb doesn't do special chars) page - the rating of customers at the top of the page doesn't seem to be a permanent number.

At the start of August I had noticed that it said Rated 8.1/10 by our own... and now its gone down to 7.9/10 so at least that seems honest.

I don't think many providers would display real customer ratings like that or at the very least cherry-pick the best reviews for their site. Just yday I remember seeing a newish vps/dedi provider's site saying "trusted by tens of thousands of customers". So if this is actually real then kudos to you @PulsedMedia I liked seeing that.

stupidgenius · 7:50PM

@PulsedMedia said: The "free" IP range is set by backend automation into the /etc/seedbox/config directory, fdorgot filename. Afaik that is readable. might need tobe exposed on GUI INFO tab tho

yep:

$ cat /etc/seedbox/config/localnet
185.148.0.0/22

@LEmeINalr said: At the start of August I had noticed that it said Rated 8.1/10 by our own... and now its gone down to 7.9/10 so at least that seems honest.

I don't think many providers would display real customer ratings like that or at the very least cherry-pick the best reviews for their site. Just yday I remember seeing a newish vps/dedi provider's site saying "trusted by tens of thousands of customers". So if this is actually real then kudos to you @PulsedMedia I liked seeing that.

This is regularly posted in their discord channel as well as other stats how their AI is doing. Looking at the page source, that value seems to come from: https://pulsedmedia.com/data/v1/csat.json

PulsedMedia · 8:14PM

@LEmeINalr said:
Offtopic but something that I noticed from the Eternal Vainamoinen (excuse the spelling my keeb doesn't do special chars) page - the rating of customers at the top of the page doesn't seem to be a permanent number.

At the start of August I had noticed that it said Rated 8.1/10 by our own... and now its gone down to 7.9/10 so at least that seems honest.

I don't think many providers would display real customer ratings like that or at the very least cherry-pick the best reviews for their site. Just yday I remember seeing a newish vps/dedi provider's site saying "trusted by tens of thousands of customers". So if this is actually real then kudos to you @PulsedMedia I liked seeing that.

yes that is real past 30days.
Plummeting because of edge cases and a myriad of new users.

But also it was 9.46/10 or so a month ago so ... that's borderline impossible by human support.

My own personal lifetime average is 8.46/10. And i am The BOFH 🤣🤣

LEmeINalr · 9:25PM

@stupidgenius said: This is regularly posted in their discord channel as well as other stats how their AI is doing.

Ah is that so? I oughta get down to that server then once I manage to find a deal restocked on their page xD

@PulsedMedia said: yes that is real past 30days.

Plummeting because of edge cases and a myriad of new users.
Yes I understood that as the deal thread was shared on LET and other places so a lot of people will have flocked in and tanked the ratings. BUT I appreciate the fact that it wasn't hidden.

On another note, still waiting for restocks on the seedboxes and the new trophy to come online. I need me something to purchase this weekend asap

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