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  • Daniel15Daniel15 Veteran

    I know I'm months late, but does anyone have a YABS of one of the HFC plans?

  • webcraftwebcraft Veteran

    @Daniel15 said:
    I know I'm months late, but does anyone have a YABS of one of the HFC plans?

    It might be even more interesting now than on initial deployment. Let's see how they managed to balance these services.

  • Question for users of HostHatch promo/discounted plans, how long is the typical response time for non-troubleshooting tickets (eg. billing & other enquiries)?
    I know they already said it'd be lower priority than std plans, but I'd still appreciate a ballpark figure. Tks

  • I had a ticket about invoice and it was answer on the same day, maybe few hours max.

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  • ChocowebChocoweb Member

    Typically in 2 working days

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  • @shearerkazaa said:
    Question for users of HostHatch promo/discounted plans, how long is the typical response time for non-troubleshooting tickets (eg. billing & other enquiries)?
    I know they already said it'd be lower priority than std plans, but I'd still appreciate a ballpark figure. Tks

    Depends upon how much workload they have.

  • UmairUmair Member

    @Chocoweb said:
    Typically in 2 working days

    @itachikonoha said:

    Depends upon how much workload they have.

    They must be really busy.

    No reply to a billing ticket for 3 days now, not related to their Sale here, more about current VPS and account setup. :(

    I understand technical support is limited for these sale VPSs .. But billing/inquire should not take that much time

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Umair said:

    No reply to a billing ticket for 3 days now, not related to their Sale here, more about current VPS and account setup. :(

    I understand technical support is limited for these sale VPSs .. But billing/inquire should not take that much time

    This is already clarified in the original post. But yes, we are indeed unusually busy in this time period.

    Are there any other differences between our normal and discounted plans?

    Yes, primarily our support. It can take several days to resolve issues, especially issues that require complex investigation. Please choose one of the services from hosthatch.com directly for production usage, with access to our normal support queue. Our promotional services are provided at near-cost pricing to fill up excess capacity and should be used accordingly.

  • @Umair said:

    @Chocoweb said:
    Typically in 2 working days

    @itachikonoha said:

    Depends upon how much workload they have.

    They must be really busy.

    No reply to a billing ticket for 3 days now, not related to their Sale here, more about current VPS and account setup. :(

    I understand technical support is limited for these sale VPSs .. But billing/inquire should not take that much time

    You're asking for a special/non-standard offer, no?

  • simlevsimlev Member

    @shearerkazaa said:
    Question for users of HostHatch promo/discounted plans, how long is the typical response time for non-troubleshooting tickets (eg. billing & other enquiries)?
    I know they already said it'd be lower priority than std plans, but I'd still appreciate a ballpark figure. Tks

    1-day typical response time in my experience.

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  • gabrigabri Member

    Any upcoming offer?

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  • @gabri said:
    Any upcoming offer?

    Serenely, Black Friday.

  • Hi @hosthatch,

    Could you please take a look at Ticket #808844 when you have a moment?

    The ticket has been awaiting a response for 3 days. I have provided reproducible benchmark data showing severe hypervisor-level CPU starvation / steal (~25x slower single-core performance than normal EPYC 7J13 baseline), which makes the VM practically unusable.

    Could you please help review the host node health or assist with a node migration? Thank you very much for your time!

  • @zhengwuji said:
    Hi @hosthatch,

    Could you please take a look at Ticket #808844 when you have a moment?

    The ticket has been awaiting a response for 3 days. I have provided reproducible benchmark data showing severe hypervisor-level CPU starvation / steal (~25x slower single-core performance than normal EPYC 7J13 baseline), which makes the VM practically unusable.

    Could you please help review the host node health or assist with a node migration? Thank you very much for your time!

    What's your average CPU steal percentage?

  • What location?

  • zhengwujizhengwuji Member
    edited September 8

    @forest It's running
    , so unfortunately there is no native %st metric like in Linux (top / mpstat).

    However, the severe CPU starvation is directly measurable via single-core execution time:

    • Measured Loop (20M iterations): 174.26 seconds on this VM
    • Healthy Baseline (EPYC 7J13): 6–8 seconds
    • Performance Loss: ~25x execution penalty (~96% compute cycle deficit)

    Even idle OS processes (Explorer / Task Manager) continuously peg vCPUs at 8–10% and trigger system freezes due to hypervisor time-slice starvation.

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @zhengwuji said:
    Hi @hosthatch,

    Could you please take a look at Ticket #808844 when you have a moment?

    The ticket has been awaiting a response for 3 days. I have provided reproducible benchmark data showing severe hypervisor-level CPU starvation / steal (~25x slower single-core performance than normal EPYC 7J13 baseline), which makes the VM practically unusable.

    Could you please help review the host node health or assist with a node migration? Thank you very much for your time!

    The best way to get your issue resolved as soon as possible, is to be concise and include technical information. Unfortunately it does not help when you use an AI to write a (very) huge generalized wall of text, with no technical information whatsoever, and then expect us to investigate ten different things for you.

    Once we have an update, we will get back to you via your ticket. We do not offer any special priority to tickets posted here.

  • @zhengwuji said:
    @forest It's running
    , so unfortunately there is no native %st metric like in Linux (top / mpstat).

    However, the severe CPU starvation is directly measurable via single-core execution time:

    • Measured Loop (20M iterations): 174.26 seconds on this VM
    • Healthy Baseline (EPYC 7J13): 6–8 seconds
    • Performance Loss: ~25x execution penalty (~96% compute cycle deficit)

    Even idle OS processes (Explorer / Task Manager) continuously peg vCPUs at 8–10% and trigger system freezes due to hypervisor time-slice starvation.

    Not doubting that it's overselling but I don't trust your LLM's diagnostics.

    Windows (assuming that's what you were trying to paste in) surely has access to the same counters as Linux, even if they call it something else.

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  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @forest said: Not doubting that it's overselling

    Based on?

  • @hosthatch said:

    @forest said: Not doubting that it's overselling

    Based on?

    I have no way of knowing, I'm just not doubting it because overselling is so common.

  • hosthatchhosthatch Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    This isn't overselling, and what the user has provided isn't a real benchmark. There is no CPU contention, or any specific limits applied. Simply fear amplified by an LLM is my best guess, but we've asked for more technical info multiple times in the ticket already.

  • @hosthatch said: Simply fear amplified by an LLM is my best guess, but we've asked for more technical info multiple times in the ticket already.

    Yeah that makes sense.

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