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  • zedzed Veteran

    @raindog308 said:

    @zed said: it's gone downhill since it was first sneak-purchased by a hosting company

    I can't agree LET is worse today than when CC (and then Deluxe) owned it.

    Just so everyone remembers: LEAdmin founded, @Chief took over, it was silently sold to CC, CC was acquired by Deluxe, and then @jbiloh bought it from Deluxe.

    In those CC/Deluxe years, I had to setup a guerrilla help desk system because the one CC/Deluxe owned broke and they never fixed it. The Thanks button was broken. I seem to recall there was an issue where we couldn't add or change mods either. The site was just in a slow downward spiral.

    LET is vastly better since @jbiloh bought it from CC/Deluxe.

    Sorry I'm not privy to which cc finger was pushing which button when there, it's all cc fingers from out here. Anyway I'm glad you can't agree with something I didn't say so we don't have to argue hugs.

  • edited July 14

    @zed said:
    I don't believe for a second anybody's ever kept LET online out of pocket except maybe LEA back in the day. And it's essentially been CC ever since, I think?

    I would have guessed the same but seemingly:

    @raindog308 said:
    @jbiloh bought it from CC/Deluxe.

    Guess i must have somehow repressed that memory or it just didn't have a lot of publicity. I vaguely remember the time when like no one (even admins) would get any kind of reply.

    In those CC/Deluxe years, I had to setup a guerrilla help desk system because the one CC/Deluxe owned broke and they never fixed it.

    Must have been somewhat around the time when @AnthonySmith set out to reform LET (i think?). I bet if anyone around here would actually remember more than the last 2 days and their personal top 3 LET moments LET would probably have a fair amount of lore. Very epic stuff like when someone was asked what kind of specs he was looking for an the person replied "debian thx" :D

  • JoeMeritJoeMerit Veteran

    A lot of hosts on here are allowed to post offers without even following the posted selling rules

    "You must have valid, public WHOIS information for your domain and/or provide proof of company registration on your website (publicly accessible on the website of your country's commerce authority)."

    I find so many host domains these days use full domain privacy which blocks low end detectives from being able to do their due diligence.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @JoeMerit said:
    A lot of hosts on here are allowed to post offers without even following the posted selling rules

    "You must have valid, public WHOIS information for your domain and/or provide proof of company registration on your website (publicly accessible on the website of your country's commerce authority)."

    I find so many host domains these days use full domain privacy which blocks low end detectives from being able to do their due diligence.

    The scrutiny that new provider tag applications get has never been more stringent.

    Any moderator with access to the applications can attest to this.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran
    edited July 15

    @totally_not_banned said:

    @zed said:
    I don't believe for a second anybody's ever kept LET online out of pocket except maybe LEA back in the day. And it's essentially been CC ever since, I think?

    I would have guessed the same but seemingly:

    @raindog308 said:
    @jbiloh bought it from CC/Deluxe.

    Guess i must have somehow repressed that memory or it just didn't have a lot of publicity. I vaguely remember the time when like no one (even admins) would get any kind of reply.

    In those CC/Deluxe years, I had to setup a guerrilla help desk system because the one CC/Deluxe owned broke and they never fixed it.

    Must have been somewhat around the time when @AnthonySmith set out to reform LET (i think?). I bet if anyone around here would actually remember more than the last 2 days and their personal top 3 LET moments LET would probably have a fair amount of lore. Very epic stuff like when someone was asked what kind of specs he was looking for an the person replied "debian thx" :D

    I bought the sites from Deluxe/CC in January 2020.

    I've invested tons of time into the sites since then.

    Thanked by 1totally_not_banned
  • @jbiloh said:

    @JoeMerit said:
    A lot of hosts on here are allowed to post offers without even following the posted selling rules

    "You must have valid, public WHOIS information for your domain and/or provide proof of company registration on your website (publicly accessible on the website of your country's commerce authority)."

    I find so many host domains these days use full domain privacy which blocks low end detectives from being able to do their due diligence.

    The scrutiny that new provider tag applications get has never been more stringent.

    Any moderator with access to the applications can attest to this.

    KYB required? I.e copies of business documents, selfie-videos to proof this company is run by a real human?

  • 3K333K33 Member, Host Rep

    @Mainfrezzer said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @JoeMerit said:
    A lot of hosts on here are allowed to post offers without even following the posted selling rules

    "You must have valid, public WHOIS information for your domain and/or provide proof of company registration on your website (publicly accessible on the website of your country's commerce authority)."

    I find so many host domains these days use full domain privacy which blocks low end detectives from being able to do their due diligence.

    The scrutiny that new provider tag applications get has never been more stringent.

    Any moderator with access to the applications can attest to this.

    KYB required? I.e copies of business documents, selfie-videos to proof this company is run by a real human?

    Selfie no, but it took a bit of time to get approved here. Had to supply proof of incorporation and reply to a lot of questions.

    What is insane, is the fact i had to do this shit twice, first for Host Rep, second for Patron Provider.

    Thanked by 3tentor Mainfrezzer rpqu
  • @3K33 said:

    @Mainfrezzer said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @JoeMerit said:
    A lot of hosts on here are allowed to post offers without even following the posted selling rules

    "You must have valid, public WHOIS information for your domain and/or provide proof of company registration on your website (publicly accessible on the website of your country's commerce authority)."

    I find so many host domains these days use full domain privacy which blocks low end detectives from being able to do their due diligence.

    The scrutiny that new provider tag applications get has never been more stringent.

    Any moderator with access to the applications can attest to this.

    KYB required? I.e copies of business documents, selfie-videos to proof this company is run by a real human?

    Selfie no, but it took a bit of time to get approved here. Had to supply proof of incorporation and reply to a lot of questions.

    What is insane, is the fact i had to do this shit twice, first for Host Rep, second for Patron Provider.

    I dont think you would fall into the category of hosts mentioned prior to biloh's response anyway(although your domain contains OVH info). I did notice that the reviews on the page do not exist on trustpilot, thats, lets phrase that, unfortunate.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @3K33 said:

    @Mainfrezzer said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @JoeMerit said:
    A lot of hosts on here are allowed to post offers without even following the posted selling rules

    "You must have valid, public WHOIS information for your domain and/or provide proof of company registration on your website (publicly accessible on the website of your country's commerce authority)."

    I find so many host domains these days use full domain privacy which blocks low end detectives from being able to do their due diligence.

    The scrutiny that new provider tag applications get has never been more stringent.

    Any moderator with access to the applications can attest to this.

    KYB required? I.e copies of business documents, selfie-videos to proof this company is run by a real human?

    Selfie no, but it took a bit of time to get approved here. Had to supply proof of incorporation and reply to a lot of questions.

    What is insane, is the fact i had to do this shit twice, first for Host Rep, second for Patron Provider.

    Host Rep applications and Provider Tag applications are not the same, some questions are different, and its intended to be somewhat duplicative because, if it happens at different times, we want to re-check things.

    Thanked by 13K33
  • zedzed Veteran

    @JoeMerit said: I find so many host domains these days use full domain privacy which blocks low end detectives from being able to do their due diligence.

    yeah i reported a few back when that free vps guy was a mod, he flat out told me it wasn't a rule and i replied back with a link to the rule and i think he just stopped responding so i took the hint.

    @jbiloh said: I've invested tons of time into the sites since then.

    we're just nitpicking, if the things we were complaining about didn't exist we'd have a different list.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @Mainfrezzer said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @JoeMerit said:
    A lot of hosts on here are allowed to post offers without even following the posted selling rules

    "You must have valid, public WHOIS information for your domain and/or provide proof of company registration on your website (publicly accessible on the website of your country's commerce authority)."

    I find so many host domains these days use full domain privacy which blocks low end detectives from being able to do their due diligence.

    The scrutiny that new provider tag applications get has never been more stringent.

    Any moderator with access to the applications can attest to this.

    KYB required? I.e copies of business documents, selfie-videos to proof this company is run by a real human?

    There is an element of KYC associated with the process now.

    Thanked by 23K33 Mainfrezzer
  • 3K333K33 Member, Host Rep

    @Mainfrezzer said:

    I dont think you would fall into the category of hosts mentioned prior to biloh's response anyway(although your domain contains OVH info). I did notice that the reviews on the page do not exist on trustpilot, thats, lets phrase that, unfortunate.

    .BZ does not have public WHOIS, so I have no way to make the data public. You can check our "corporate" domain (3k33.pl) in NASK WHOIS https://dns.pl

    Regarding reviews, I will update the website to show up-to-date reviews soonish or get rid of that section altogether. Good catch.

    Thanked by 2oloke Mainfrezzer
  • JoeMeritJoeMerit Veteran

    Nice to hear that there is more checking done. I could have sworn i've seen multiple companies with domain privacy and then also complete anonymity on their IP blocks over the last year.

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