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America Turns 250: Good With Your Hands? Become Synteq's PP

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  • FubukiFubuki Member

    Hello, here is the YABS i took. Specs are just a 1c/1gb/20GB NVMe/2.5Gbps @ 5 TiB + Ping n routing test

    ---------------------------------- nws.sh ---------------------------------
          A simple script to bench network performance using speedtest-cli
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Version            : v2026.06.05
     Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash
     Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -r <region>
     iperf3 test        : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -iperf
     Ping & Routing     : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -rt <region>
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic System Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CPU Model          : Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz
     CPU Cores          : 1 @ 2399.998 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 16384 KB
     AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : ❌ Disabled
     Total Disk         : 19.6 GB (2.1 GB Used)
     Total RAM          : 967.9 MB (452.9 MB Used)
     System uptime      : 0 days, 0 hour 52 min
     Load average       : 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
     OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 13
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 6.12.90+deb13.1-cloud-amd64
     Virtualization     : KVM
     TCP Control        : cubic
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic Network Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Primary Network    : IPv6
     IPv6 Access        : ✔ Online
     IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
     ISP                : Redoubt Networks
     ASN                : Unknown
     ASN (IPv4)         : AS400304 Redoubt Networks
     Host               : Redoubt Networks
     Location           : Spokane, Washington-WA, United States
     Location (IPv4)    : Dallas, Texas, US
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest.net (Region: NORTH AMERICA)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server
    
     ISP: Redoubt Networks
    
     Nearest          14.44 ms    0.0%    888.52 Mbps    765.92 Mbps    Chisholm Broadband - Enid, OK
    
     Vancouver, BC    54.97 ms    0.0%    2458.58 Mbps   419.56 Mbps    TELUS - Vancouver, BC
     Calgary, AB      61.09 ms    0.0%    2453.49 Mbps   193.59 Mbps    iTel.com
     Winnipeg, MB     37.79 ms    0.0%    2384.58 Mbps   368.24 Mbps    Voyageur Internet - Winnipeg, MB
     Toronto, ON      34.05 ms    0.0%    2394.37 Mbps   532.13 Mbps    Bell Canada - Toronto, ON
     Montreal, QC     68.36 ms    0.0%    2349.03 Mbps   288.81 Mbps    Rogers Wireless - Montréal, QC
    
     New York, NY     46.10 ms    0.0%    2323.31 Mbps   323.69 Mbps    Surfshark Ltd - New York, NY
     Ashburn, VA      41.38 ms    0.0%    2358.64 Mbps   419.22 Mbps    Rackdog - Ashburn, VA
     Durham, NC       30.46 ms    0.0%    2290.01 Mbps   562.74 Mbps    Spectrum - Durham, NC
     Atlanta, GA      30.11 ms    0.0%    2461.87 Mbps   813.33 Mbps    Clouvider Ltd - Atlanta, GA
     Miami, FL        45.78 ms    0.0%    2411.88 Mbps   415.09 Mbps    ReliableSite Hosting - Miami, FL
     Dallas, TX       2.60 ms     0.0%    2391.80 Mbps   2461.04 Mbps   Hivelocity - Dallas, TX
     Houston, TX      8.64 ms     N/A     2417.02 Mbps   1827.49 Mbps   Comcast - Houston, TX
     Kansas, MO       12.17 ms    0.0%    2275.80 Mbps   1465.12 Mbps   Nocix - Kansas City, MO
     Minneapolis, MN  24.12 ms    0.0%    2408.91 Mbps   807.69 Mbps    US Internet - Minneapolis, MN
     Chicago, IL      23.71 ms    0.0%    2372.66 Mbps   865.38 Mbps    Hivelocity - Chicago, IL
     Cleveland, OH    44.93 ms    0.0%    2471.44 Mbps   457.15 Mbps    Cleveland Broadband - Cleveland, OH
     Albuquerque, NM  27.59 ms    N/A     2453.19 Mbps   653.73 Mbps    Comcast - Albuquerque, NM
     Denver, CO       21.09 ms    0.0%    2448.16 Mbps   992.87 Mbps    T-Mobile Fiber | Intrepid - Denver, CO
     Portland, OR     56.71 ms    N/A     2024.64 Mbps   424.35 Mbps    CenturyLink - Portland, OR
     Las Vegas, NV    29.83 ms    N/A     2169.42 Mbps   656.80 Mbps    isp.net - Las Vegas, NV
     Ogden, UT        36.03 ms    0.0%    2426.09 Mbps   296.33 Mbps    WebNX Inc. - Ogden, UT
     Phoenix, AZ      23.18 ms    0.0%    2467.97 Mbps   732.53 Mbps    Xiber LLC - Phoenix, AZ
     Los Angeles, CA  41.75 ms    N/A     2414.12 Mbps   110.99 Mbps    ReliableSite Hosting - Los Angeles, CA
     San Jose, CA     42.27 ms    0.0%    2406.60 Mbps   466.91 Mbps    Misaka Network, Inc. - San Jose, CA
     Spokane, WA      58.78 ms    N/A     2396.14 Mbps   373.56 Mbps    Crunchbits - Spokane, WA
     Seattle, WA      56.44 ms    0.0%    725.94 Mbps    346.40 Mbps    Wowrack - Seattle, WA
    
     Hermosillo, MX   59.24 ms    0.0%    2417.65 Mbps   534.78 Mbps    Megacable - Hermosillo
     Guadalajara, MX  35.68 ms    0.0%    1882.67 Mbps   901.83 Mbps    AT&T México - Guadalajara
     Mexico City, MX  50.86 ms    0.0%    2444.34 Mbps   502.83 Mbps    INFINITUM - Ciudad de México
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Avg DL Speed       : 2259.62 Mbps
     Avg UL Speed       : 666.00 Mbps
    
     Total DL Data      : 86.90 GB
     Total UL Data      : 23.78 GB
     Total Data         : 110.68 GB
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Duration           : 12 min 28 sec
     System Time        : 10/07/2026 - 03:38:53 UTC
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Result             : https://result.nws.sh/r/1783654734_GHNKFO_NA.txt
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2026-07-03                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Fri Jul 10 03:38:54 UTC 2026
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 1 hours, 4 minutes
    Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz
    CPU cores  : 1 @ 2399.998 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 967.9 MiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 19.6 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)
    Kernel     : 6.12.90+deb13.1-cloud-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : Redoubt Networks
    ASN        : Unknown
    Host       : Redoubt Networks
    Location   : Spokane, Washington (WA)
    Country    : United States
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 203.55 MB/s  (49.6k) | 1.34 GB/s    (20.5k)
    Write      | 204.09 MB/s  (49.8k) | 1.35 GB/s    (20.6k)
    Total      | 407.64 MB/s  (99.5k) | 2.69 GB/s    (41.1k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 2.60 GB/s     (4.9k) | 2.48 GB/s     (2.3k)
    Write      | 2.74 GB/s     (5.2k) | 2.65 GB/s     (2.5k)
    Total      | 5.35 GB/s    (10.2k) | 5.14 GB/s     (4.9k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 276 Mbits/sec   | 1.94 Gbits/sec  | 109 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 221 Mbits/sec   | 1.60 Gbits/sec  | 124 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 327 Mbits/sec   | 827 Mbits/sec   | 208 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 258 Mbits/sec   | 1.08 Gbits/sec  | 199 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 805 Mbits/sec   | 2.36 Gbits/sec  | 32.0 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 536 Mbits/sec   | 2.25 Gbits/sec  | 46.2 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 79.5 Mbits/sec  | 33.9 Mbits/sec  | 241 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | busy            | 1.69 Gbits/sec  | 115 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 251 Mbits/sec   | 1.80 Gbits/sec  | 124 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 229 Mbits/sec   | 811 Mbits/sec   | 210 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | busy            | 931 Mbits/sec   | --
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 993 Mbits/sec   | 2.37 Gbits/sec  | 32.1 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 513 Mbits/sec   | 2.32 Gbits/sec  | 46.2 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 293 Mbits/sec   | 23.2 Mbits/sec  | 246 ms
    
    Geekbench test failed and low memory was detected. Add at least 1GB of SWAP or use GB4 instead (higher compatibility with low memory systems).
    
    YABS completed in 7 min 27 sec
    ---
    ---------------------------------- nws.sh ---------------------------------
          A simple script to bench network performance using speedtest-cli
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Version            : v2026.06.05
     Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash
     Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -r <region>
     iperf3 test        : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -iperf
     Ping & Routing     : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -rt <region>
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic System Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CPU Model          : Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8260 CPU @ 2.40GHz
     CPU Cores          : 1 @ 2399.998 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 16384 KB
     AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : ❌ Disabled
     Total Disk         : 19.6 GB (2.2 GB Used)
     Total RAM          : 967.9 MB (463.2 MB Used)
     System uptime      : 0 days, 1 hour 14 min
     Load average       : 0.64, 0.37, 0.29
     OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 13
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 6.12.90+deb13.1-cloud-amd64
     Virtualization     : KVM
     TCP Control        : cubic
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic Network Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Primary Network    : IPv6
     IPv6 Access        : ✔ Online
     IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
     ISP                : Redoubt Networks
     ASN                : Unknown
     ASN (IPv4)         : AS400304 Redoubt Networks
     Host               : Redoubt Networks
     Location           : Spokane, Washington-WA, United States
     Location (IPv4)    : Dallas, Texas, US
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Ping & Routing Test (Region: NORTH AMERICA)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Network                                 | Details
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Seattle: xTom                      | 52ms [No Loss]
     23.145.48.48                            | AS400304 AS3257 AS201106 AS50131
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Liberty Lake: Crunchbits           | 58ms [No Loss]
     104.36.84.66                            | AS400304 AS3257
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - San Jose: CDN77                    | 45ms [No Loss]
     156.146.53.53                           | AS400304 AS1299 AS60068
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Hillsboro: OVH                     | 57ms [No Loss]
     51.81.154.196                           | AS400304 AS1299 AS16276
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Fremont: Hurricane Electric        | 43ms [No Loss]
     core1.fmt2.he.net                       | AS400304 AS1299 AS6939
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Los Angeles: Multacom              | Failed
     204.13.154.3                            | AS400304 AS1299 AS2914
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Los Angeles: ReliableSite          | 32ms [No Loss]
     104.238.206.46                          | AS400304 AS1299 AS23470
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Los Angeles: WebNX                 | 33ms [No Loss]
     64.185.232.162                          | AS400304 AS3257 AS18450
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Chicago: Psychz Networks           | 22ms [No Loss]
     108.181.140.235                         | AS400304 AS3257 AS40676
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Chicago: VirMach                   | 24ms [No Loss]
     89.33.192.5                             | AS400304 AS1299 AS46261 AS25693
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Kansas City: FreeRangeCloud        | 12ms [No Loss]
     23.152.226.2                            | AS400304 AS1299 AS12186 AS53356
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Kansas: IncogNET                   | 12ms [No Loss]
     23.137.254.200                          | AS400304 AS1299 AS32097 AS40663
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Dallas: GSL                        | 3ms [No Loss]
     216.146.25.35                           | AS400304 AS3257 AS7578 AS63018
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Salt Lake City: FiberState         | 37ms [No Loss]
     38.92.25.252                            | AS400304 AS3257 AS26042
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Ashburn: ColoCrossing              | 34ms [No Loss]
     192.3.254.158                           | AS400304 AS3257 AS23352 AS36352
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Buffalo: ColoCrossing              | 34ms [No Loss]
     192.3.180.103                           | AS400304 AS1299 AS36352
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Durham: Cogent                     | 52ms [No Loss]
     38.45.64.1                              | AS400304 AS3257 AS174
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - New York: ReliableSite             | 40ms [No Loss]
     104.243.42.233                          | AS400304 AS1299 AS23470
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Secaucus: Royale Hosting           | 46ms [No Loss]
     45.137.206.1                            | AS400304 AS1299 AS212477
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Atlanta: Flexential                | 18ms [No Loss]
     82.153.68.71                            | AS400304 AS3257 AS13649
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     US - Miami: ReliableSite                | 30ms [No Loss]
     104.238.204.68                          | AS400304 AS3257 AS23470
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CA - Vancouver: Hurricane Electric      | Failed
     104.218.61.164                          | AS400304 AS3257 AS63213 AS53356
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CA - Vancouver: FreeRangeCloud          | 64ms [No Loss]
     23.154.81.1                             | AS400304 AS3257 AS174 AS53356
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CA - Calgary: FreeRangeCloud            | Failed
     23.133.64.25                            | AS400304 AS1299 AS6461 AS20119
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CA - Toronto: Amanah                    | 34ms [No Loss]
     172.93.167.178                          | AS400304 AS3257 AS36236 AS32489
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CA - Montreal: OVH                      | 41ms [No Loss]
     51.222.154.207                          | AS400304 AS1299 AS16276
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CA - Halifax: FreeRangeCloud            | 50ms [No Loss]
     23.191.80.33                            | AS400304 AS3257 AS53356
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Duration           : 6 min 9 sec
     System Time        : 10/07/2026 - 03:54:06 UTC
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Result             : https://result.nws.sh/r/1783655647_UH8LCW_GLOBAL.txt
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Thanked by 1mandala
  • FubukiFubuki Member

    Overall, the bandwidth and speeds are very good. other then that. It's alright

  • forestforest Member
    edited July 10

    @rpqu said: 93.4% file size reduction without great lost of fidelity. Or just use svg replacement

    For that type of image, I would do:

    -quality 86 -gaussian-blur 0.05 -sampling-factor 4:2:0 -define jpeg:dct-method=float
    

    Size is now under 200 KiB. As for the other images, they have high-frequency components so I'd recommend just using optipng or converting to lossless WebP instead. Or even AVIF. Pretty much everything supports AVIF now.

    Actually, the other images like chess-piece.png look like they went through lossy compression before being converted to PNG. Perhaps regenerate them. Anyway, I think we're supposed to message him via tickets, but there's nothing wrong with posting here as well to give others ideas!

    Thanked by 2rpqu mandala
  • rpqurpqu Member

    @forest said:

    @rpqu said: 93.4% file size reduction without great lost of fidelity. Or just use svg replacement

    For that type of image, I would do:

    -quality 86 -gaussian-blur 0.05 -sampling-factor 4:2:0 -define jpeg:dct-method=float
    

    Size is now under 200 KiB. As for the other images, they have high-frequency components so I'd recommend just using optipng or converting to lossless WebP instead. Or even AVIF. Pretty much everything supports AVIF now.

    Actually, the other images like chess-piece.png look like they went through lossy compression before being converted to PNG. Perhaps regenerate them. Anyway, I think we're supposed to message him via tickets, but there's nothing wrong with posting here as well to give others ideas!

    Thank you for further optimization up to 97.6% . However, webp/avif aren't supported on older browser.
    Anyway, have you diagnose the TLS e.g cipher selection, key exchange, etc?

  • forestforest Member

    @rpqu said: Anyway, have you diagnose the TLS e.g cipher selection, key exchange, etc?

    It uses Cloudflare to handle TLS. No idea what the backend uses (ideally it should be using mlkem768x25519).

  • rpqurpqu Member
    edited July 10

    @forest said:

    @rpqu said: Anyway, have you diagnose the TLS e.g cipher selection, key exchange, etc?

    It uses Cloudflare to handle TLS. No idea what the backend uses (ideally it should be using mlkem768x25519).

    Try looking into this

    ~~{backups,fbi,hv,hv-agent,metal,nsa}.crunchbits.com~~
    ~~agent-{cda,dfw,lblk,sof,vfo}.crunchbits.com~~
    ~~lg-{tek,spk}.crunchbits.com~~
    

    Oops, old domain

    lg-{spo,sof,dfw,vfo}.synteq.com

  • sadafsadaf Member

    Good questions. I’m also curious about the blockchain node policy. Let's see what the provider says

  • ebietsyebietsy Member

    Overall I found the portal very responsive and easy to navigate. The layout feels clean, and I didn't run into any major issues during normal use.

    A few things I noticed as a first-time user:

    Registration

    It took me a moment to realize the illustration was actually my profile picture and that I could click it to choose or upload an avatar. A small label or hint might make that a bit more obvious for first-time users.

    Webhook

    The "payloads" link has an external link icon, so I expected it to open in a new tab. It opened in the current tab instead, which caught me a little by surprise.

    BGP

    This one caught me off guard. Every other item in the sidebar takes me to a page, so I expected BGP to do the same. Instead, it opened a modal. It made sense after the first click, but initially I assumed sidebar items were only used for navigation.

    Overall, I like the UI. These are just a few small things that stood out during my first use.

  • forestforest Member

    @sadaf said:
    Good questions. I’m also curious about the blockchain node policy. Let's see what the provider says

    He replied here:

    @crunchbits said: Of course. Running a simple node would look like any other application, no specific rules against actually using your hardware. Just view it as 'resource abuse' lens. Dedicated server? Don't care.

  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @sadaf said:
    Good questions. I’m also curious about the blockchain node policy. Let's see what the provider says

    Thanks definitely not ChatGPT

    Thanked by 2Murv ashish168527
  • MurvMurv Member, Megathread Squad

    @beanman109 said:

    @sadaf said:
    Good questions. I’m also curious about the blockchain node policy. Let's see what the provider says

    Thanks definitely not ChatGPT

    you're welcome definitely beanman109

  • bdlbdl Member

    the PP cake is a lie

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    We guess we are good with our hands:

    If we get one push-up for each bug entered, Eric would be on the floor now.

  • HayzeeHayzee Member

    @yoursunny said:
    We guess we are good with our hands:

    If we get one push-up for each bug entered, Eric would be on the floor now.

    Damn you did a lot better than me lol

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @crunchbits said:
    Update has been pushed and confirmed. CLI features should be live.

    New invites (+36):
    @DataRecovery @Saragoldfarb @QuenFea @tototo @pwned @rpqu @nghialele @zGato @Xrmaddness @MannDude @lothos @Void @YassGames @victory7 @stupidgenius @Smigit @mandala @HuiW @LowkeyS @unsafetypin @corbpie @bdl @smallpancakes @cainyxues @nekomikoreimu @truemagic @ebietsy @lothos @giang @Fubuki @victory7 @Frobsy @DanSummer @Headfirst @dosai

    ...and @forest

    All please DM me e-mails to send invites. Especially you @zGato.

    @forest to answer:
    1. Not explicitly banned, though I don't think we're best for it. We are going to hold account-holder responsible to our AUP/TOS and $5 VM popping constantly for violations will just get suspended/booted. I much more highly recommend @MannDude IncogNET who is setup to handle that better.

    1. "Computationally intensive" is the key phrase. I just call it out because people, very often, see "don't hammer the CPU 24/7" and then still decide to run phpcoin miners and get banned.

    Noice. Been testing the backend
    its very nice but some minor issues or features missing. You pushed a big update so I'll spend some time on it tomorrow.

    Overall, looks good but not 100% production ready. Updates may have fixed, the CLI looks awesome.

  • benhabenha Member

    @yoursunny said:
    We guess we are good with our hands:

    If we get one push-up for each bug entered, Eric would be on the floor now.

    Upped the rate limits just for you ;)

    Thanked by 1Xrmaddness
  • forestforest Member

    Hmm, 30% CPU steal when benchmarking 12 dedicated vCPUs?

    Thanked by 1Xrmaddness
  • michae1michae1 Member

    Is this still going? Count me in as well!

  • VoidVoid Member

    @crunchbits said:

    New invites (+36):

    DM’d the email yesterday but haven’t received the invite yet. .

  • forestforest Member
    edited 5:47AM

    @forest said:
    Hmm, 30% CPU steal when benchmarking 12 dedicated vCPUs?

    This seems to be caused by a bug in the VM resizing code. I originally got an 8 dedicated core VDS and later resized it to 12 dedicated cores, however I never managed to exceed 800% core performance, and CPU steal would go up to ~30%.

    From some testing, it looks like the 4 new cores are not being given their own dedicated core, so when I upgraded to 12 vCPUs, it's still only 8 physical cores handling them, which explains the CPU steal. The extra 4 are "fake".

    Can someone else test this for me as well? If anyone has purchased a VDS or a VPS with dedicated cores, try resizing the VM and adding one or more extra cores, then attempt to benchmark them all while monitoring CPU steal and total CPU usage of the benchmarking process. E.g. if you start with 4 cores and benchmark shows 400% usage and 0% steal, upgrade from 4 to 8 cores and benchmark all 8 and see if it shows 800% usage and 0% steal as it should, or if it still shows 400% usage across all 8 cores and 50% steal (which would indicate all 8 vCPU threads are pinned to your original 4 cores).

  • deafcondeafcon Member

    @forest said:

    @forest said:
    Hmm, 30% CPU steal when benchmarking 12 dedicated vCPUs?

    This seems to be caused by a bug in the VM resizing code. I originally got an 8 dedicated core VDS and later resized it to 12 dedicated cores, however I never managed to exceed 800% core performance, and CPU steal would go up to ~30%.

    From some testing, it looks like the 4 new cores are not being given their own dedicated core, so when I upgraded to 12 vCPUs, it's still only 8 physical cores handling them, which explains the CPU steal. The extra 4 are "fake".

    I reported a bug where /var/logs got wiped and cloud-init generated a new fingerprint after the resize. Did you see that behavior or has it already been fixed?

  • forestforest Member
    edited 5:50AM

    @deafcon said: I reported a bug where /var/logs got wiped and cloud-init generated a new fingerprint after the resize. Did you see that behavior or has it already been fixed?

    Did you resize the storage, and if so did you grow or shrink it? I only resized memory and cores and didn't experience what you describe. The logs disappearing and a new fingerprint being generated would indicate to me that the VM was reinstalled, which might make sense if you shrunk the storage (it's easier to grow than to shrink a live filesystem).

  • deafcondeafcon Member

    @forest said:

    @deafcon said: I reported a bug where /var/logs got wiped and cloud-init generated a new fingerprint after the resize. Did you see that behavior or has it already been fixed?

    Did you resize the storage, and if so did you grow or shrink it? I only resized memory and cores and didn't experience what you describe. The logs disappearing and a new fingerprint being generated would indicate to me that the VM was reinstalled, which might make sense if you shrunk the storage (it's easier to grow than to shrink a live filesystem).

    Just changed from shared to dedicated and increased ram and cores. I haven't tested again since the update, so I'm assuming it was fixed.

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @forest said:

    @deafcon said: I reported a bug where /var/logs got wiped and cloud-init generated a new fingerprint after the resize. Did you see that behavior or has it already been fixed?

    Did you resize the storage, and if so did you grow or shrink it? I only resized memory and cores and didn't experience what you describe. The logs disappearing and a new fingerprint being generated would indicate to me that the VM was reinstalled, which might make sense if you shrunk the storage.

    Imagine the drama "Resizing wiped my disk Synteq". "93.8 steal after changing the core count"

  • forestforest Member
    edited 6:00AM

    @deafcon said:

    @forest said:

    @deafcon said: I reported a bug where /var/logs got wiped and cloud-init generated a new fingerprint after the resize. Did you see that behavior or has it already been fixed?

    Did you resize the storage, and if so did you grow or shrink it? I only resized memory and cores and didn't experience what you describe. The logs disappearing and a new fingerprint being generated would indicate to me that the VM was reinstalled, which might make sense if you shrunk the storage (it's easier to grow than to shrink a live filesystem).

    Just changed from shared to dedicated and increased ram and cores. I haven't tested again since the update, so I'm assuming it was fixed.

    Can you try running stress -c $num_cores and then check if there's any steal with top?

    I'm wondering if this bug only occurs when increasing the number of dedicated cores or if it occurs when when increasing if you're also switching from shared to dedicated.

  • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Patron Provider, Veteran

    @forest said:

    @deafcon said:

    @forest said:

    @deafcon said: I reported a bug where /var/logs got wiped and cloud-init generated a new fingerprint after the resize. Did you see that behavior or has it already been fixed?

    Did you resize the storage, and if so did you grow or shrink it? I only resized memory and cores and didn't experience what you describe. The logs disappearing and a new fingerprint being generated would indicate to me that the VM was reinstalled, which might make sense if you shrunk the storage (it's easier to grow than to shrink a live filesystem).

    Just changed from shared to dedicated and increased ram and cores. I haven't tested again since the update, so I'm assuming it was fixed.

    Can you try running stress -c $num_cores and then check if there's any steal with top?

    I'm wondering if this bug only occurs when increasing the number of dedicated cores or if it occurs when when increasing if you're also switching from shared to dedicated.

    I am not sure, however, I would consider CPU Steal not as a bug during this testing period. I belive, Eric said that this is a small test deployment. Which would probably suggest that this is not the final deployment that users will get in terms of actual node placements/cpu-pinning/performance/etc. - I assume the idea of this thread is to test the software platform and not the exact hardware performance. Hardware is hardware, no much to test on it - it's server grade, went through burn-ins and etc. Software testing is prob what matters to them.

    I could be wrong, of course.

  • forestforest Member
    edited 7:28AM

    @AlexBarakov said: I am not sure, however, I would consider CPU Steal not as a bug during this testing period.

    The issue isn't that there is steal, the issue is that increasing the number of dedicated cores does not actually increase the number of dedicated cores, just the number of logical vCPU threads. That's a bug in the new panel, not a hardware limitation.

    In other words, when you purchase a VDS with n cores and start it up, n threads are spawned and pinned to n cores. When you upgrade an extra core, it should spawn n + 1 threads and pin it to n + 1 cores, but instead it only pins it to n cores.

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  • sixsix Member

    Late but would love to test!

  • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Patron Provider, Veteran

    @forest said:

    @AlexBarakov said: I am not sure, however, I would consider CPU Steal not as a bug during this testing period.

    The issue isn't that there is steal, the issue is that increasing the number of dedicated cores does not actually increase the number of dedicated cores, just the number of logical vCPU threads. That's a bug in the new panel, not a hardware limitation.

    In other words, when you purchase a VDS with n cores and start it up, n threads are spawned and pinned to n cores. When you upgrade an extra core, it should spawn n + 1 threads and pin it to n + 1 cores, but instead it only pins it to n cores.

    My apologies, I have misread the initial comment on what the meaning was exactly. I see now!

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  • crunchbitscrunchbits Member, Patron Provider, Top Host

    It is a final deployment for production in-so-much as what customers would see for basic VPS. Definitely need all the edge cases looked into. What I don't care about is the single/multi-core vCPU speed on a 1core VPS, or other common-sense kind of support items. They've been doing the Lord's work so far, though.

    All excellent feedback. Watching them iterate/re-check/etc been fantastic.

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