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New trend emerging
So, it seems new greedy trend emerging among providers:
Old (often heavily discounted) services terminated due to some xyz pretext and new pricing introduced with the same hardware.
Few providers already executed this:
SolidVPS - it seems this was ground 0.
Naranja - offered a bit more evolved variant: they credit users account.
Anyone else has noticed such scummy behavior?
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If nothing else has changed, I consider this behaviour despicable. It’s tantamount to a landlord evicting you, but then compensating you with a voucher to rent a property in his portfolio. Only to find, when you rent it back, that it’s still the very same flat you used to live in.
What do you mean by greedy? Who exactly is being greedy here? Hosting providers have bills to pay too - electricity, hardware, food, utilities, billing software,...
If you're going to blame anyone, at least blame the RIGHT people, the ones causing the cost of living to skyrocket in every country.
You think the provider's small price increase is a massive amount of money? Really? You should look at how fast the assets of Nvidia, Samsung, Trump, and the big banks are growing. Their wealth is skyrocketing while normal people struggle to put food on the table.
ozonti as well?
The contract is contract. We are talking here about the action BEFORE contract is ended. Provider one-sided decided to cancel service. 0 fcks given about providers problems. It is business and it is so called "stronger side". Can't manage? Go bankrupt and give space to others, more capable.
It is a jackal move to cancel services and re-launch them in different light.
Difficult one. All depends on the (real) reason that a node is retired.
In general, I think that if you offer something in 2024 with a 3-year plan you should have everything in place to be able to keep the hardware running for that period of time.
Ofcourse there can be a situation that really changes the playing field; then I'd expect the hoster to do everything possible to live up to the contract.
And when it's not (economically) possible give the customer an option: refund the remaining part (no coupon, refund) or make a "special offer" to keep the VPS but with better specs.
In general it's tricky ground and as customer I'd hate providers to do that, and I'd have suspicions against them if it's a kind of setup. So, as a provider I'd think numerous times before doing it.
This will be interesting 🤔 to see unfold....
I heard @host_c is gonna give us all free servers because he's rich.
They are building a strong reputation by doing that.
That would be anti-semitic
So hetzner for example does not fall into this category? or any other bigger company just because they are, well, bigger ? - asking for a friend
That's on you, not on us low-end VPS users. You rent or colocate servers from bigger companies, we buy small pieces of that from you :P
If some of those datacenters one-sidedly ended the contract for already paid servers and credited your account for the amount you paid, complain by all means, and we will collectively bitch about it to make you feel less lonely in that misery.
But yeah, generally we mostly comment on hosts that advertise their recurring deals and sell tons of them here.
Does hetzner increased price on existing contracts or price increase was done after contract expiration (renewal is contract expiration).
The trend is actually the amount of bitching that comes from here. Some is warranted and deserved but again this wouldn’t be LET without this type of drama. Yes costs are up majorly for everyone. I guess the ones bitching don’t live in a reality of a business needs to make money. Sorry you can only plan so much ahead on pricing. Also if your are truly bitching about a price increase then maybe think from the business prospective that he is getting fucked by the dc and your getting fucked by the provider in turn. Sorry but a business doesn’t run on not making money.
BREAKING NEWS
The future has been Canceled
move on
Greed is good.
everyone knows how crazy the market is right now because of AI. providers have bills to pay as well.
for whatever reasons, if you are not happy then move on and find a new home.
don't ask for too much. this is low-end but not deadpool club, not for every providers.
Naranja has been legit for years until now.
okay but can i haz $0.01/yr onideal
you sure can with -90OFF
Nah, no need to do it again, sorry! Things are already bad enough as they are now, no need to go further.
Into the future Back to DARKNESS
And Beyond Before
The future you salute is a RETURN TO DARKNESS
You are so very smart...
NOT
Business run on money and reputation. Does scummy providers expect keep reputation with actions like contract breach? Or LET community is low lives that does not deserve contracts?
What I am seeing here is, many providers ignoring the main point that OP is writing.
is it OK to violate the term of a contract by raising the price due to rising expanse/billls but which (the contract) is still in force (as naranja did)?
When you make a contract by taking money upfront for future month, you made a commitment. Sometimes, you may get the short end of the stick. But is it OK to violate the contract just because one party is facing a bit loss? Then what's the purpose of making a contract in the first place and gather a capital for your business? Just go month by month contract and everything will be OK.
At least one should allow to end the contract and force upon renewal (where by previous contract gets null and void).
Increasing price due to increasing cost is different.
And increasing price while current contract is going on is a whole different issue.
Everyone seems to address the second issue with the reply from first issue. But those two are not equivalent.
If being uninformed makes you call providers “greedy,” then sure — we’re greedy at this point. The hardware cost increase about to hit the market is on a completely different level. Anyone who thinks this is optional or avoidable is simply not living in the real world.
We buy hardware in bulk quantities most people here will never experience, and even at that scale, prices aren’t dropping — they’re climbing fast. Maybe try checking the OVH founder’s posts about what’s coming, instead of rushing to make false accusations and complain out of limited knowledge. We forecast the market 6–9 months ahead, long before end‑users feel anything, and what’s coming this quarter alone will force every provider, big or small, to raise prices or shut down. There’s no middle ground.
So when someone throws around the word “greed” without understanding the global cost pressures behind the scenes, it only shows how disconnected they are from the industry they’re commenting on. I understand the concern — it comes from not knowing what’s actually happening — but reality doesn’t change because someone is unaware of it.
Let’s see where things stand six months from now. I’m genuinely curious how many more providers you’ll add to your “greed” list once the real wave hits. Some people here are simply not living in the same world the rest of us operate in.
Some providers no longer care about reputation, they increasingly behave as if reputation is a matter of no concern.
Idk bro you sound a bit frustrated or emotional about it.
Sure for some provider there is raising costs.
Yet i have to admit, even im a lowend customer myself, i wouldnt want to be the provider or consider advertising LowEnd if i was going to launch a hosting.
Some people here seem way too extreme.
Hunting the cheapest deals. Complain provider is going to deadpool (or slow support or god whatever). Repeat. Its whats seen here.
In the end you buy twice.
It really depends on the cost of that reputation.
NO, it is not ok, it never was.
Now, let me ask you this, and please take my reply as an example of "what if", as I think that "IF" is an issue for some.
By obeying the contract one will go under in 3 moths and you still have 5 MO left on your contract. Would that be better? Would that help everyone?
In that context, the next day when your service is unreachable and you data is gone, would you reply on this forum, "hey nice for him for staying with the ship till it sank" or he will get the same treatment = " what an ass" ?
Because to may recalling, all that took this route got the later reply, the one with "ass".
So it boils down to a lesser bad option from the 2.
Saving X% of the remaining customers onboard might worth more then loosing all. Or, it is better to let them all drawn?