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anyone knows the reliable channel to buy very high-end GPU platform like H200 or B300?

TangeTange Member

one of my friends has this demand, but he is from China, so can't buy it directly from the officials

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  • curiouecurioue Member
    edited July 8

    Friends,Really ? Friends or yourself.

  • edited July 8

    Just smuggle it through Singapore like everyone else.

    Thanked by 2bluesega whiterider
  • TangeTange Member

    @curioue said:

    Friends,Really ? Friends or yourself.

    i can't afford it , if i have that money, i will not mess with this AI thing

    @CyberneticTitan said:
    Just smuggle it through Singapore like everyone else.

    Singapore has the server in stock? i just walk in and buy it??

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    Please buy Huawei products instead.

    Thanked by 2jsg host_c
  • rpqurpqu Member

    @yoursunny said:
    Please buy Huawei products instead.

    Can Huawei products run crysis?

  • I'm not really into that topic but if there's some kind of formal export ban you might want to familiarize yourself with that. Even if you decide to ignore it in the end you'll at least know what might happen if things go wrong. Running afoul of internationally hot topics and finding out about the consequences on the spot might not be the most pleasant thing.

  • TangeTange Member

    @yoursunny said:
    Please buy Huawei products instead.

    Ascend?it's not for rookies, you need a RD team to run LLM on it

  • @rpqu said:

    @yoursunny said:
    Please buy Huawei products instead.

    Can Huawei products run crysis?

    They can, but the framerate will be low.

  • TangeTange Member

    @totally_not_banned said:
    I'm not really into that topic but if there's some kind of formal export ban you might want to familiarize yourself with that. Even if you decide to ignore it in the end you'll at least know what might happen if things go wrong. Running afoul of internationally hot topics and finding out about the consequences on the spot might not be the most pleasant thing.

    since when people care about the export ban? ALL AI chips in China were sold by Americans

  • @Tange said:

    @totally_not_banned said:
    I'm not really into that topic but if there's some kind of formal export ban you might want to familiarize yourself with that. Even if you decide to ignore it in the end you'll at least know what might happen if things go wrong. Running afoul of internationally hot topics and finding out about the consequences on the spot might not be the most pleasant thing.

    since when people care about the export ban? ALL AI chips in China were sold by Americans

    Well, it's usually those that run into trouble who end up caring. But carry on. Don't let me distract you. It's going to be alright by default, i guess.

  • VoidVoid Member

    How many social credits will you gain if you manage to smuggle one in?

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  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited July 8

    Sorry, no can do. All top end chip are belong to The Donald, if you want them you'll have to make a deal with him directly.

  • TangeTange Member
    edited July 8

    @Void said:
    How many social credits will you gain if you manage to smuggle one in?

    what is social credits?

  • mans_xdmans_xd Member

    @Tange said:

    @Void said:
    How many social credits will you gain if you manage to smuggle one in?

    what is social credits?

    although tang is historical name in china
    take this

  • TangeTange Member

    @mans_xd said:

    @Tange said:

    @Void said:
    How many social credits will you gain if you manage to smuggle one in?

    what is social credits?

    although tang is historical name in china
    take this

    you mean this one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_credit_system

    you really believe it? if you are making jokes, i am cool, but if you really believe it, it is a joke itself

    looks like some people are very easy to cheat

  • mans_xdmans_xd Member

    @Tange said:

    looks like some people are very easy to cheat

    nah it's a joke, search up in tiktok or ig you would see some funny, no cheat

  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited July 8

    @Tange said:

    @Void said:
    How many social credits will you gain if you manage to smuggle one in?

    what is social credits?

    Oh pleease, give us a break, stop being disingenuous .

    You're the one who is working hard to earn social credit, you know what it is much better than anyone else here.

    You are fully involved in it!

    Thanked by 1mans_xd
  • @Tange said:

    @totally_not_banned said:
    I'm not really into that topic but if there's some kind of formal export ban you might want to familiarize yourself with that. Even if you decide to ignore it in the end you'll at least know what might happen if things go wrong. Running afoul of internationally hot topics and finding out about the consequences on the spot might not be the most pleasant thing.

    since when people care about the export ban? ALL AI chips in China were sold by Americans

    And Supermicro got caught.

    What was your point?

  • TangeTange Member

    @stable_genius said:

    @Tange said:

    @Void said:
    How many social credits will you gain if you manage to smuggle one in?

    what is social credits?

    Oh pleease, give us a break, stop being disingenuous .

    You're the one who is working hard to earn social credit, you know what it is much better than anyone else here.

    You are fully involved in it!

    alright, if i smuggle one server into China, the Gov. will give me a $7/yr VPS for free

    that's it, very good deal

  • forestforest Member
    edited July 9

    @stable_genius said:

    @Tange said:

    @Void said:
    How many social credits will you gain if you manage to smuggle one in?

    what is social credits?

    Oh pleease, give us a break, stop being disingenuous .

    You're the one who is working hard to earn social credit, you know what it is much better than anyone else here.

    You are fully involved in it!

    Social credits are a meme. It's roughly equivalent to credit scores here in the US, but centralized rather than privatized.

    You earn social credits by paying back loans fast, assisting police, or donating to charity and lose social credits by dodging debts, committing infractions like red light violations, or ordering take-out but not picking it up and paying.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System#Misconceptions

    Thanked by 2mans_xd tentor
  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @stable_genius said:
    Sorry, no can do. All top end chip are belong to The Donald, if you want them you'll have to make a deal with him directly.

    ... and pay with his cryptoscam, uhm, "currency".

    @forest said:

    @stable_genius said:

    @Tange said:

    @Void said:
    How many social credits will you gain if you manage to smuggle one in?

    what is social credits?

    Oh pleease, give us a break, stop being disingenuous .

    You're the one who is working hard to earn social credit, you know what it is much better than anyone else here.

    You are fully involved in it!

    Social credits are a meme. It's roughly equivalent to credit scores here in the US, but centralized rather than privatized.

    You earn social credits by paying back loans fast, assisting police, or donating to charity and lose social credits by dodging debts, committing infractions like red light violations, or ordering take-out but not picking it up and paying.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System#Misconceptions

    WUT? That sounds actually reasonable and useful!
    Those damn chinese commies, how dare they not only punishing criminals but also rewarding decently behaving people?!

  • forestforest Member
    edited July 9

    @jsg said: WUT? That sounds actually reasonable and useful!

    Indeed! There are definitely issues with China in regards to personal freedom and privacy, but the idea of the social credit system is nothing like what the West assumes it is and it irks me when people perpetuate myths.

    Thanked by 2jsg ayerfton
  • edited July 9

    @forest said:

    @jsg said: WUT? That sounds actually reasonable and useful!

    Indeed! There are definitely issues with China in regards to personal freedom and privacy, but the idea of the social credit system is nothing like what the West assumes it is.

    I wouldn't really say that (at least outside of pop culture). It might not have been heavily publicized (for rather obvious reasons) but the overall concept has actually been studied and the idea of being able to punish unruly plebs without having to go through banks and all that was kinda well received (not really all that practical in most general cases). I figure with nudging and such basically being accepted ways of shaping societies that's hardly much of a surprise though. A lot of the moralistic finger pointing in regards to some kind of supposed values is simply for show.

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited July 9

    @TimboJones said:

    @Tange said:

    @totally_not_banned said:
    I'm not really into that topic but if there's some kind of formal export ban you might want to familiarize yourself with that. Even if you decide to ignore it in the end you'll at least know what might happen if things go wrong. Running afoul of internationally hot topics and finding out about the consequences on the spot might not be the most pleasant thing.

    since when people care about the export ban? ALL AI chips in China were sold by Americans

    And Supermicro got caught.

    What was your point?

    Could you please enumerate some of all those that did not get caught? Or better still, those that are actively doing it now and will never get caught. I'm pretty sure lots of people would love to see those lists.

    Erm... what was your point, again?

    Thanked by 2forest jsg
  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited July 9

    @Tange said:

    @stable_genius said:

    @Tange said:

    @Void said:
    How many social credits will you gain if you manage to smuggle one in?

    what is social credits?

    Oh pleease, give us a break, stop being disingenuous .

    You're the one who is working hard to earn social credit, you know what it is much better than anyone else here.

    You are fully involved in it!

    alright, if i smuggle one server into China, the Gov. will give me a $7/yr VPS for free

    that's it, very good deal

    Not exactly that, you'll make them so happy that they'll let you have a FULL RACK for $7/yr. Even two, maybe. Or more.

  • TangeTange Member

    @TimboJones said:

    And Supermicro got caught.

    What was your point?

    yes, 2 bad Americans got caught, and BTW they made tens of millions

    the only question is how much is the bail

  • TangeTange Member

    @stable_genius said:

    Not exactly that, you'll make them so happy that they'll let you have a FULL RACK for $7/yr. Even two, maybe. Or more.

    i'll send you a free $7/yr for promote the social credits to the world

    once i got it

    Thanked by 1stable_genius
  • @Tange said:

    @TimboJones said:

    And Supermicro got caught.

    What was your point?

    yes, 2 bad Americans got caught, and BTW they made tens of millions

    the only question is how much is the bail

    Guess you better make a couple millions on this then. As is even getting some kind of legal counsel to tell you that announcing such stuff to the internet isn't a great idea would put you into deep red numbers.

    I mean, it's not like this matters to me. I'm just amazed at the nothing-drastic-will-ever-happen-to-me attitude. Doing instead of thinking is often times actually a good thing and as long as you don't plan on whining about working off debt for a couple of years or spending some time behind bars... more power to you. I just have a feeling that you will very much decry the unfairness if things turn sour. Let me take a wild guess: You are born after 2000, right? ;)

  • TangeTange Member

    @totally_not_banned said:

    I mean, it's not like this matters to me. I'm just amazed at the nothing-drastic-will-ever-happen-to-me attitude. Doing instead of thinking is often times actually a good thing and as long as you don't plan on whining about working off debt for a couple of years or spending some time behind bars... more power to you. I just have a feeling that you will very much decry the unfairness if things turn sour. Let me take a wild guess: You are born after 2000, right? ;)

    thanks for the concern, as i said earlier in this thread, i do not mess with this AI things, i ask for a friend, i don't making any money on this, i know no one believe me, so...whatever

    and i am not teenager or young man now, i am 42 years old, i am an educated man, got my degree in China 20 years ago, i know exactly what is United States of America and how their society works, our Chinese university professors taught us a lot of things that could never be taught in American universities,after so many years of real-world experience, I think everything they taught us was right

    so, in short, no one will get into any trouble for this AI smuggling things, money can resolve all the problem

    and BTW, America is not that "powerful" in China

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • edited July 9

    @Tange said:

    @totally_not_banned said:

    I mean, it's not like this matters to me. I'm just amazed at the nothing-drastic-will-ever-happen-to-me attitude. Doing instead of thinking is often times actually a good thing and as long as you don't plan on whining about working off debt for a couple of years or spending some time behind bars... more power to you. I just have a feeling that you will very much decry the unfairness if things turn sour. Let me take a wild guess: You are born after 2000, right? ;)

    thanks for the concern, as i said earlier in this thread, i do not mess with this AI things, i ask for a friend, i don't making any money on this, i know no one believe me, so...whatever

    Yeah, no one believes that but oh well... if it's not you who does the actual violation you are obviously just complicit ;)

    and i am not teenager or young man now, i am 42 years old, i am an educated man, got my degree in China 20 years ago, i know exactly what is United States of America and how their society works, our Chinese university professors taught us a lot of things that could never be taught in American universities,after so many years of real-world experience, I think everything they taught us was right

    I see. So people eating up Chinese propaganda act strangely similar to millenials. Interesting.

    Disclaimer: I'm neither American nor a huge fan of their politics but then i don't see what any of this America bad-bad-bad stuff has to do with anything.

    so, in short, no one will get into any trouble for this AI smuggling things, money can resolve all the problem

    If you say so and you have the respective coins to burn. I mean, you aren't wrong. Pretty much everything can be bought pretty much everywhere but it's usually a question of amount and that amount is regularly bigger than what the average person can come up with.

    and BTW, America is not that "powerful" in China

    Thanks. That's certainly a mind blowing revelation. One country isn't powerful inside another country, who would have thought that? Maybe even Zimbabwe isn't that powerful in Kazakhstan. Man, that's crazy but i think you actually have a point there.

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