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Concern Regarding Ghita Raul the scammer (nordic vm, takehost & more) sponsorship at RONOG
ghenadiestan4749
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Hello LET community,
I would like to bring attention to a situation that I believe is relevant for people in the hosting and networking industry.
TakeHost is currently listed as a sponsor of RONOG, the Romanian Network Operators Group event: https://www.ronog.ro
The concern is that TakeHost appears to be connected to Raul Gabriel Ghita, a name that some members of the hosting community may already recognize from previous discussions involving several hosting-related brands over the years.
From what has been discussed publicly in the past, he has been associated with multiple hosting businesses, including NordicVM. There have been previous concerns raised by customers, providers, and community members regarding how some of these businesses were managed, how they ended, and whether obligations toward customers or infrastructure providers were properly handled.
I am posting this because RONOG is an important industry event in Romania, and sponsorship at such an event can give credibility to a company or individual. When there are already public concerns and previous community discussions about someone’s history in the hosting market, I believe the organizers should be made aware of it and should review the situation carefully.
I have already contacted the RONOG organizers to inform them about these concerns. At the time of writing, I have not yet received a response.
Maybe other people from the community who have relevant information or direct experience should also contact RONOG and ask them to review the sponsorship. This should be done respectfully and with documentation, not through insults or harassment.
If anyone here has additional information, previous links, or direct experience regarding this matter, please share it so the community can have a clearer picture.
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@RaulNordicVM @Take, important news, don't miss.
TBH Romanian companies here in let have bad reputations, so this is like peach falls under peach situation.. (or one can say apple..)
@host_c is a notable good example of Romanian company
I would prefer to not focus on bad ones, because new registered accounts will cover this part anyway
Actually, they are Bulgarian company 🫣
source: host-c.com / LES post
Wtf those aint my nameservers
The great selling points of Romania or Bulgaria are torrents and DMCA. For hosting something like this, such locations are great. So far providers have failed not because things went bad, but because they became greedy. Greed is a problem worldwide, so it would be unfair to focus just on Romania as a culture or a country.
For example @host_c is quite responsible and tries to keep an honest business which is a good image. Hopefully he won't turn greedy, but then again every manager can change into a positive or negative way with regards to customers. Nobody knows the whole picture, so it would be unfair to judge.
Back on topic: I never heard of Ronog. Maybe someone actually wants publicity and exposure, therefore... drama. Good publicity or bad publicity, still publicity.
Not really. The only "strong" advantage here is that most RO providers don't give a f*ck about a notification that came to one's abuse mailbox claiming ownership or rights, in the same way a DE or US provider would wet their pants.
But if you do that complaint via RO Police structure or any other authority which has I.P. in their attributions, you'll get instant service suspension and your data shared with authorities in the next second.
So, pure luck that rightful content owners don't really go the extra mile to make an official complaint.
Regarding sponsors to RONOG... meh... in my opinion that's a mediocre event, hosted by kinda same level organizers imho (InterLan) which have at least 3 other shady providers as sponsor (no, not gonna name any). But you only saw Ghita's.
As long as you throw them a bone, they'll display your name no questions asked. Take it as the "Patron provider" tag here.
Don't waste people's time with "appears to be" or "concerns". Either have proof or you don't, it's not actionable. You might be more in the wrong in the event you're wrong, then you're malicious because you didn't verify beforehand.
given that they put their asn on their website "AS214639" which does link back to
it does appear that way
Hy there
, thank you for tagging me along 
I think the whole RO DCMA ignore don't give a fuq was started by some ( that are not among us anymore ) and is entirely BS.
Most of us just went with the flow because some found it funny and some thought it was cool marketing, but at the end of the day only a very small proportion of hosting companies actually embrace the "Fuq DMCA, we host everything" motto.
Most companies ( and I'm talking about companies that actually own hardware, have infrastructure, invest real money, and put their money where their mouth is ) won't go down that road. Sincerely, it rarely ends well. If your input is shit, your output can only be... shit.
Any respectful company will give a fuq on TakeDown Requests, ( any of them operating in the EU and wish to have a clean legal business - to give some context here ).
I am sure some of you that tryed your luck with us for example, got a ticket, we either sort it out or we parted ways.
The whole RO = I can do anything thing is nonsense. Sure, a few providers from RO/BG decided not to give a fuq, but that's not unique to RO or BG, you can find that everywhere.
Wiser providers here have said, if you really want to host that kind of stuff, you need both the hardware and the "cohones", because doing it properly is neither easy nor cheap.
If I would do the math on exotic protections, upstreams, hardware, and everything else in the mix just to host questionable content for $5/month, it simply doesn't add up...... Maybe I am missing something here, so some of you can enlighten me.
Greed wasn't what killed/deadpooled many of those providers. Expenses did......
Eventually, reality catches you. Spending $$$$$$ ( aka a shit load of money ) every month on premium DDoS protection, upstreams, transit, and layers of mitigation will bleed you dry, and cheap trash services simply can't absorb those hits forever, nor for a long time.
Yet.... what amazes me even more are the datacenters themselves.
I mean, come on. They clearly see the kind of traffic a "DMCA-ignore" provider is pushing through their network, yet they keep quiet until something catches fire or their network goes down.
It's not like 50 or 500 Gbps of constant garbage, complaints, abuse reports, and daily attacks magically appear overnight. Those things are visible long before they become a problem.
In many cases, the "DMCA-ignore" provider isn't even the interesting part. The real question is why the upstreams and datacenters willingly look the other way for so long. ( or, everything and anybody has it's price??
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Hosting anything for 5 USD might sound cool marketing wise, yet, on the long run, it will most probably fail.
Scam wise, well, that is a different breed of animal, and sincerely, as much as I hate it, it is common, but not just in hosting. Com on, everyone wants to male a million billion over night.
Cheers!
@host_c is alive! Yay.
All Romanian hosts are scammers. Oh, wait, I'm Romanian too.
Even if you are not wrong but just don't feel like dealing with some guy who's (theoretically - i don't any of the persons involved) quick to lawyer up over stuff he doesn't like a little seems to be can go a long way. I get what you mean (a bunch of he said she said is just pointless) but it's not that black and white. No matter how right you are lawsuits and the surrounding topics can still be pretty draining.
Wow you got me worried, got a 5 EURO takehost VPS, gonna lose billions on this now.
Did you create an alt account to post this?
"All men are animals, Socrates is a man, therefore, Socrates is an animal"
I don't know if I am feeling good or bad if I am romanian.
At least you're not a fat Italian pasta eater :)
I do like pasta though..
Taking into the account that if it wasn't for a Romanian, most of the world would still write with a crayon or goose feather or a lot of people would've died in absence of penicillin. Or that writing as we know it today has its roots in old Dacian (now, Romanian) lands, I am 100% feeling good for being born a Romanian.
If your origins are to be doubted because of a (historically) non existing event such as RONOG, or because one or two individuals are scamming (see Indian scammers for example, then do a proportion checkup to Romanian scammers) then you can switch to BG as some others done it already - just because it's "hard to be a Romanian in Romania in those times".
Like it or not, our country has only given out things to the world; we have never started wars, we have not killed hundreds or thousands of innocents under the flag of freedom or because they allegedly had "weapons of mass destruction", we have not started smoking out people just because they were born as a different race/color or religion ... and so on so forth.
We, as a country, as a nation, as a tradition and identity are something others only dream about; yet our people have the tendency to "look in others' gardens" and lying to themselves it would be better that way.
In case you are not old enough to remember this guy...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceaușescu
Elaborate please. I can also throw a link and leave everyone wonder "what the author mean?!".
You said you didn't kill thousands of innocents, as Romanians. The dictator regime of Ceaușescu prooves otherwise, killing tens of thousand "enemies of state".
That's inaccurate. In lack of a detailed reply, I would assume you refer to the '89 revolution, in which there were other nations eager to bring us freedom, which orchestrated the hit and gave shoot on sight commands.
There are recordings of Ceaușescu explicitly saying: "să nu să tragă în oameni! repet, să nu să tragă! alte forțe străine vor prăbușirea națiunii, nu noi".
I'd suggest you do your homework better, if you are really interested in the subject and its accuracy.
Rinse and repeat, country by country.
My knowledge of Romania is limited to satirical TV "Comrade Detective" but to me that didn't pass the sniff test that he's not responsible for thousands killed during Communism.
I'm also curious about the penicillin thing, we were taught that was Fleming.
Also takes some liberties to say we'd still be using goose feathers for writing. That's mental gymnastics to pat oneself on the back.
Of course you were... why would any world power admit they were behind a small country like Romania?!
Why would Edison admit he stole the lightbulb from Tesla?
Again, basic research:
https://ibb.co/h1sjHG8c
https://ibb.co/BHJ0mPsJ
That doesn't say what you think it does.
Edison stealing all kinds of shit is well known so I'm not sure the question.
My point about the pen is that isn't something so novel someone else would have came up with something better to replace that, which has already happened. Darwin wasn't the first to come up with evolution, just the first to publish. Lots of ideas and inventions happen similarly and one idea wins out over others for various reasons (e.g. fucking fahrenheit thermometers).
Whoever made the first printing press has a legit boast. The fountain pen, not so much.
Based on your logic, the primitive man who invented round wheel out of stone has no credit; we now have rubber tires on alloy rims.
The fountain pen was a breakthrough in its time for its segment. Was it improved later on? Sure!
Would have it appeared so fast if it wasnt our Romanian guy?! Allow me to doubt it. Some were still wearing heavy wigs that housed lice, yet they considering themselves "developed countries" of the time.
What matters is how much of a breakthrough was required to go one step further. Something like penicillin? Not so much. It would have been discovered soon anyway. There's a saying in science that discoveries tend to occur simultaneously.
Even if Albert Einstein had never existed, we'd still have the nuclear bomb by now and the theory of relativity. It might have taken a bit longer (which, during a war, is definitely a big deal), but it would have happened.