Concern Regarding Ghita Raul the scammer (nordic vm, takehost & more) sponsorship at RONOG

Andreix

@forest said:

@Andreix said: The fountain pen was a breakthrough in its time for its segment. Was it improved later on? Sure!

What matters is how much of a breakthrough was required to go one step further. Something like penicillin? Not so much. It would have been discovered soon anyway. There's a saying in science that discoveries tend to occur simultaneously.

Even if Albert Einstein had never existed, we'd still have the nuclear bomb by now and the theory of relativity. It might have taken a bit longer (which, during a war, is definitely a big deal), but it would have happened.

In the meantime, without that non-important Romanian guy, all those saved lifes by the antibiotics would not have lived anymore.
However, all the lives ended by some other big important non-romanian guys would've continued to happily live, in lack of so-called "freedom". Or, as per your logic, it doesn't really matter... They would've died anyway at some point.

TimboJones

@Andreix said:

@TimboJones said:

@Andreix said:

@TimboJones said:

@luckypenguin said:
You said you didn't kill thousands of innocents, as Romanians. The dictator regime of Ceaușescu prooves otherwise, killing tens of thousand "enemies of state".

My knowledge of Romania is limited to satirical TV "Comrade Detective" but to me that didn't pass the sniff test that he's not responsible for thousands killed during Communism.

I'm also curious about the penicillin thing, we were taught that was Fleming.

Also takes some liberties to say we'd still be using goose feathers for writing. That's mental gymnastics to pat oneself on the back.

Of course you were... why would any world power admit they were behind a small country like Romania?!

That doesn't say what you think it does.

Why would Edison admit he stole the lightbulb from Tesla?

Again, basic research:
https://ibb.co/h1sjHG8c
https://ibb.co/BHJ0mPsJ

Edison stealing all kinds of shit is well known so I'm not sure the question.

My point about the pen is that isn't something so novel someone else would have came up with something better to replace that, which has already happened. Darwin wasn't the first to come up with evolution, just the first to publish. Lots of ideas and inventions happen similarly and one idea wins out over others for various reasons (e.g. fucking fahrenheit thermometers).

Whoever made the first printing press has a legit boast. The fountain pen, not so much.

Based on your logic, the primitive man who invented round wheel out of stone has no credit; we now have rubber tires on alloy rims.

Don't think that's my logic. The printing press was revolutionary. The wheel was revolutionary. The fountain pen was not. It might even be considered obsolete whereas printing presses and wheels are still in daily use.

The fountain pen was a breakthrough in its time for its segment. Was it improved later on? Sure!
Would have it appeared so fast if it wasnt our Romanian guy?! Allow me to doubt it. Some were still wearing heavy wigs that housed lice, yet they considering themselves "developed countries" of the time.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

slowservers

@emperor said:
TBH Romanian companies here in let have bad reputations, so this is like peach falls under peach situation.. (or one can say apple..)

I don't have any experience with Romanian providers, however I did fly to Romania to meet customers there once. It was a wonderful experience meeting such honest and genuine people. Visiting Romania was one of the best trips I've ever had.

It's possible that I just lucked out and happened upon a small business of Romania's best, but I tend to assume that there's many other good people (and businesses) over there based on my experience.

Lex

@Andreix said:

I think Romania as a country has some great history and culture. But that doesn't make up for all the shit that is currently happening and has been happening for a few decades now in the country.

There's a great list of inventors and discoveries but that doesn't make up for the shit this country has been pulling for the past 30 years. We're currently leading a lot of bad statistics (road traffic accidents, teen pregnancies, lack of access to education, poverty, corruption, poor healthcare, child labor, unemployment, environmental issues, domestic violence, brain drain) that could be very easily solved with investments way under others that are being made no problem.

Is Romania the worst country? No. Is Romania the best or one of the best? No.

At the current level, Romania is to be compared quite on the same level with India, Nigeria, Indonesia, Pakistan, etc. We don't shit on the streets and throw garbage in the rivers, but we're not very far from it. It's very sad because things could be very different with the proper government and leadership, we (Romania) have great potential.

rotkari

@Andreix said:

@COLBYLICIOUS said:
I don't know if I am feeling good or bad if I am romanian.

Taking into the account that if it wasn't for a Romanian, most of the world would still write with a crayon or goose feather or a lot of people would've died in absence of penicillin. Or that writing as we know it today has its roots in old Dacian (now, Romanian) lands, I am 100% feeling good for being born a Romanian.

If your origins are to be doubted because of a (historically) non existing event such as RONOG, or because one or two individuals are scamming (see Indian scammers for example, then do a proportion checkup to Romanian scammers) then you can switch to BG as some others done it already - just because it's "hard to be a Romanian in Romania in those times".

Like it or not, our country has only given out things to the world; we have never started wars, we have not killed hundreds or thousands of innocents under the flag of freedom or because they allegedly had "weapons of mass destruction", we have not started smoking out people just because they were born as a different race/color or religion ... and so on so forth.

We, as a country, as a nation, as a tradition and identity are something others only dream about; yet our people have the tendency to "look in others' gardens" and lying to themselves it would be better that way.

You weren't born Romanian because, before the Roman and Slavic occupations, you were Dacian. Everyone knows that the Dacians were members of Illyrian tribes consequently, Albanian… Now you're Romanian—something between an Italian and a South Slav...
I don't see why you're too proud to tell the truth.

sandoz

@Andreix said:

@default said:
The great selling points of Romania [...] are torrents and DMCA.

Not really. The only "strong" advantage here is that most RO providers don't give a f*ck about a notification that came to one's abuse mailbox claiming ownership or rights, in the same way a DE or US provider would wet their pants.

Not really. Looks Like you don’t even know how Voxility acts…

Andreix

@rotkari said:

@Andreix said:

@COLBYLICIOUS said:
I don't know if I am feeling good or bad if I am romanian.

Taking into the account that if it wasn't for a Romanian, most of the world would still write with a crayon or goose feather or a lot of people would've died in absence of penicillin. Or that writing as we know it today has its roots in old Dacian (now, Romanian) lands, I am 100% feeling good for being born a Romanian.

If your origins are to be doubted because of a (historically) non existing event such as RONOG, or because one or two individuals are scamming (see Indian scammers for example, then do a proportion checkup to Romanian scammers) then you can switch to BG as some others done it already - just because it's "hard to be a Romanian in Romania in those times".

Like it or not, our country has only given out things to the world; we have never started wars, we have not killed hundreds or thousands of innocents under the flag of freedom or because they allegedly had "weapons of mass destruction", we have not started smoking out people just because they were born as a different race/color or religion ... and so on so forth.

We, as a country, as a nation, as a tradition and identity are something others only dream about; yet our people have the tendency to "look in others' gardens" and lying to themselves it would be better that way.

You weren't born Romanian because, before the Roman and Slavic occupations, you were Dacian. Everyone knows that the Dacians were members of Illyrian tribes consequently, Albanian… Now you're Romanian—something between an Italian and a South Slav...
I don't see why you're too proud to tell the truth.

Me? I may feel old AF, but still, I was born Romanian... have not seen Burebista or Decebalus on the maternity hallway (or have I and forgot?!).

@sandoz said:

@Andreix said:

@default said:
The great selling points of Romania [...] are torrents and DMCA.

Not really. The only "strong" advantage here is that most RO providers don't give a f*ck about a notification that came to one's abuse mailbox claiming ownership or rights, in the same way a DE or US provider would wet their pants.

Not really. Looks Like you don’t even know how Voxility acts…

No idea... last time I knew how it acted was when they were still advertising either 1Tbps, 2Tbps, 3Tbps ... 6Tbps of anti-ddos... depending on who you got on the sales team. Have they reached the Pbps now?

zed

what a weird thread

angstrom

People, let's try to stay on-topic (and to avoid sweeping generalizations about Romanians), though I'm not sure how much more there's to say about the particular topic in the opening post

Note that both @RaulNordicVM and @Take are banned

forest

@angstrom said: Note that both @RaulNordicVM and @Take are banned

Where they banned for this or for something else?