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Is this cpu steal acceptable?

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  • i would chargeback yesterday.

  • @cybertech said:
    i would chargeback yesterday.

    I believe in miracles, not ruining me financially

  • It's highly unfair. Others can steal your CPU but you can't steal it from someone else.

  • @jnd said:
    It's highly unfair. Others can steal your CPU but you can't steal it from someone else.

    you can always go to wallmart

    Thanked by 1jnd
  • AvaHostingAvaHosting Member, Patron Provider

    @lowendlurker said:

    @AvaHosting said:

    @lowendlurker said:
    Is such high steal value acceptable?
    Performance is very bad even for the price... 11€/y
    It was fine in the beginning but after few months became very bad.

    After opening ticket with provider they said, everything is fine.

    Not sure if I have wrong expectation...

    In the end I said "If you think this is normal, please close the ticket"
    Ticket got closed.

    Hi,

    Could you please send the ticket number? We want to check, please provide a ticket number or IP

    Best Regards,
    Ava.hosting

    Thank you.
    Ticket: #448496

    I cannot check about performance now, ssh not connecting.

    Hi, dear lowendlurker.

    Looks like now is fixed? Can you confirm?
    Also this is a cheapest VPS server, we can't guarantee that will have always good performance. Since it have low resources and the low pricing also attracts some "abusive clients"

    If this still happening, try to request to move to other node.

    Kind Regards,
    Ava.hosting

    Thanked by 1OpaqueRegistrant
  • Hello, it is usable, as expected now.
    Thank you a lot for your efforts!

  • risharderisharde Host Rep, Veteran

    Dont think I have ever seen steals that high even lowend wise

    Thanked by 1crystal
  • crystalcrystal Member
    edited December 2025

    @harrison said:
    How to read that top screenshot @lowendlurker ? Is it "Few processes but CPU utilization is at 2.3" ?

    No, the problem is that the virtual CPU is spending 47.7% of it's time waiting for the host CPU to allocate cycles to it (as indicated by 47.7 st) in spite of the low idle load, which indicates that the host is either massively overprovisioned, or has some abusive VMs that are constantly slamming their CPU and preventing other VMs from using their fair share of compute time on the host CPU.

    Thanked by 1harrison
  • At least now I know not to renew it.

    Thanked by 1s0n1c
  • A few percent steal is normal on shared/oversold nodes — under ~5% I wouldn't worry. Consistent double-digit steal means the node's packed and you're fighting neighbors for CPU. Worth running vmstat 1 over a few hours at different times to see if it spikes during peak. If it's always high, that's a node problem, not yours.

  • OscarCiprianoOscarCipriano Member, Patron Provider

    @lowendlurker said:
    Is such high steal value acceptable?
    Performance is very bad even for the price... 11€/y
    It was fine in the beginning but after few months became very bad.

    After opening ticket with provider they said, everything is fine.

    Not sure if I have wrong expectation...

    In the end I said "If you think this is normal, please close the ticket"
    Ticket got closed.

    I still don't get what you expect from an €11-a-year VPS. People who complain about these servers being slow shouldn't even think about opening a support ticket or whining. (just my opinion ;))

  • lowendlurkerlowendlurker Member
    edited June 13

    They should not sell such crap, it's misleading (just my opinion)
    Now after rebuilding, the network is broken anyway. Done with it finally.

  • mans_xdmans_xd Member

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @lowendlurker said:
    Is such high steal value acceptable?
    Performance is very bad even for the price... 11€/y
    It was fine in the beginning but after few months became very bad.

    After opening ticket with provider they said, everything is fine.

    Not sure if I have wrong expectation...

    In the end I said "If you think this is normal, please close the ticket"
    Ticket got closed.

    I still don't get what you expect from an €11-a-year VPS. People who complain about these servers being slow shouldn't even think about opening a support ticket or whining. (just my opinion ;))

    worth your time as "Patron Provider" and re-read the thread again and the provider response and the op comments

    and you will see that he already open a ticket, just 3-5 comments from you "worth time" you will see that people already would be okay with 5-7 cpu steal in this vps prices

    please stop joks

    Thanked by 1lowendlurker
  • PacketraOliverPacketraOliver Member, Patron Provider

    No, this is not an okay st% rate, whatever node you are on, its' oversold or someone on the node is abusing the resources, in cases like this if it's a clear abusive behavior the host should rate limit / cpu limit the offender.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @lowendlurker said:
    Is such high steal value acceptable?
    Performance is very bad even for the price... 11€/y
    It was fine in the beginning but after few months became very bad.

    After opening ticket with provider they said, everything is fine.

    Not sure if I have wrong expectation...

    In the end I said "If you think this is normal, please close the ticket"
    Ticket got closed.

    I still don't get what you expect from an €11-a-year VPS. People who complain about these servers being slow shouldn't even think about opening a support ticket or whining. (just my opinion ;))

    wdym? Any cpu steal is haram, even on 11€/y.

  • OscarCiprianoOscarCipriano Member, Patron Provider

    I completely agree, but such a low price can never justify a “decent” service (in my opinion).

    There are too many costs involved; selling a service for $11 a year means you’re literally breaking even, if not losing money.

    In any case, everyone is free to choose their own business model.> @Neoon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @lowendlurker said:
    Is such high steal value acceptable?
    Performance is very bad even for the price... 11€/y
    It was fine in the beginning but after few months became very bad.

    After opening ticket with provider they said, everything is fine.

    Not sure if I have wrong expectation...

    In the end I said "If you think this is normal, please close the ticket"
    Ticket got closed.

    I still don't get what you expect from an €11-a-year VPS. People who complain about these servers being slow shouldn't even think about opening a support ticket or whining. (just my opinion ;))

    wdym? Any cpu steal is haram, even on 11€/y.

  • deafcondeafcon Member

    @OscarCipriano said:
    I completely agree, but such a low price can never justify a “decent” service (in my opinion).

    There are too many costs involved; selling a service for $11 a year means you’re literally breaking even, if not losing money.

    In any case, everyone is free to choose their own business model.> @Neoon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @lowendlurker said:
    Is such high steal value acceptable?
    Performance is very bad even for the price... 11€/y
    It was fine in the beginning but after few months became very bad.

    After opening ticket with provider they said, everything is fine.

    Not sure if I have wrong expectation...

    In the end I said "If you think this is normal, please close the ticket"
    Ticket got closed.

    I still don't get what you expect from an €11-a-year VPS. People who complain about these servers being slow shouldn't even think about opening a support ticket or whining. (just my opinion ;))

    wdym? Any cpu steal is haram, even on 11€/y.

    What is your business so I can make sure not to make a purchase?

    Thanked by 1mans_xd
  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @deafcon said:
    What is your business so I can make sure not to make a purchase?

    This information is listed in their profile

    Thanked by 1deafcon
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited June 14

    @OscarCipriano said:
    I completely agree, but such a low price can never justify a “decent” service (in my opinion).

    There are too many costs involved; selling a service for $11 a year means you’re literally breaking even, if not losing money.

    In any case, everyone is free to choose their own business model.> @Neoon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @lowendlurker said:
    Is such high steal value acceptable?
    Performance is very bad even for the price... 11€/y
    It was fine in the beginning but after few months became very bad.

    After opening ticket with provider they said, everything is fine.

    Not sure if I have wrong expectation...

    In the end I said "If you think this is normal, please close the ticket"
    Ticket got closed.

    I still don't get what you expect from an €11-a-year VPS. People who complain about these servers being slow shouldn't even think about opening a support ticket or whining. (just my opinion ;))

    wdym? Any cpu steal is haram, even on 11€/y.

    Whatever you sell, its your decision.

    However, if what your sell, its barely usable, because of CPU steal, packet loss or whatever, its your task to fix it.

    No matter, how cheap it is.

    So Far, I have barely seen any CPU steal on my cheap idlers, despite paying low price.
    I don't need much CPU, I need the CPU to process things fast, without delay.

    Thanked by 1eliphas
  • OscarCiprianoOscarCipriano Member, Patron Provider

    @deafcon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:
    I completely agree, but such a low price can never justify a “decent” service (in my opinion).

    There are too many costs involved; selling a service for $11 a year means you’re literally breaking even, if not losing money.

    In any case, everyone is free to choose their own business model.> @Neoon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @lowendlurker said:
    Is such high steal value acceptable?
    Performance is very bad even for the price... 11€/y
    It was fine in the beginning but after few months became very bad.

    After opening ticket with provider they said, everything is fine.

    Not sure if I have wrong expectation...

    In the end I said "If you think this is normal, please close the ticket"
    Ticket got closed.

    I still don't get what you expect from an €11-a-year VPS. People who complain about these servers being slow shouldn't even think about opening a support ticket or whining. (just my opinion ;))

    wdym? Any cpu steal is haram, even on 11€/y.

    What is your business so I can make sure not to make a purchase?

    What could be the reason for this? :cold_sweat:

  • deafcondeafcon Member

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @deafcon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:
    I completely agree, but such a low price can never justify a “decent” service (in my opinion).

    There are too many costs involved; selling a service for $11 a year means you’re literally breaking even, if not losing money.

    In any case, everyone is free to choose their own business model.> @Neoon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @lowendlurker said:
    Is such high steal value acceptable?
    Performance is very bad even for the price... 11€/y
    It was fine in the beginning but after few months became very bad.

    After opening ticket with provider they said, everything is fine.

    Not sure if I have wrong expectation...

    In the end I said "If you think this is normal, please close the ticket"
    Ticket got closed.

    I still don't get what you expect from an €11-a-year VPS. People who complain about these servers being slow shouldn't even think about opening a support ticket or whining. (just my opinion ;))

    wdym? Any cpu steal is haram, even on 11€/y.

    What is your business so I can make sure not to make a purchase?

    What could be the reason for this? :cold_sweat:

    You're blaming users for a provider's failure. They should stand behind what they sell and ensure it can actually be utilized. By telling users that they shouldn't expect a usable service and shouldn't submit a support ticket, you're saying that provider doesn't need to do that. From my perspective, that means it is possible you would act the same to your own users.

  • OscarCiprianoOscarCipriano Member, Patron Provider

    @deafcon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @deafcon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:
    I completely agree, but such a low price can never justify a “decent” service (in my opinion).

    There are too many costs involved; selling a service for $11 a year means you’re literally breaking even, if not losing money.

    In any case, everyone is free to choose their own business model.> @Neoon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @lowendlurker said:
    Is such high steal value acceptable?
    Performance is very bad even for the price... 11€/y
    It was fine in the beginning but after few months became very bad.

    After opening ticket with provider they said, everything is fine.

    Not sure if I have wrong expectation...

    In the end I said "If you think this is normal, please close the ticket"
    Ticket got closed.

    I still don't get what you expect from an €11-a-year VPS. People who complain about these servers being slow shouldn't even think about opening a support ticket or whining. (just my opinion ;))

    wdym? Any cpu steal is haram, even on 11€/y.

    What is your business so I can make sure not to make a purchase?

    What could be the reason for this? :cold_sweat:

    You're blaming users for a provider's failure. They should stand behind what they sell and ensure it can actually be utilized. By telling users that they shouldn't expect a usable service and shouldn't submit a support ticket, you're saying that provider doesn't need to do that. From my perspective, that means it is possible you would act the same to your own users.

    If sharing an opinion counts as "attacking" someone, then my bad, though that definitely wasn't my intention. :wink:

    That said, I completely agree that the provider is to blame here.
    They are selling service XYZ on paper, but delivering something entirely different.

    It honestly feels like one of those social media ads promising you'll get rich quick with a €500 investment. :D

  • deafcondeafcon Member

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @deafcon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @deafcon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:
    I completely agree, but such a low price can never justify a “decent” service (in my opinion).

    There are too many costs involved; selling a service for $11 a year means you’re literally breaking even, if not losing money.

    In any case, everyone is free to choose their own business model.> @Neoon said:

    @OscarCipriano said:

    @lowendlurker said:
    Is such high steal value acceptable?
    Performance is very bad even for the price... 11€/y
    It was fine in the beginning but after few months became very bad.

    After opening ticket with provider they said, everything is fine.

    Not sure if I have wrong expectation...

    In the end I said "If you think this is normal, please close the ticket"
    Ticket got closed.

    I still don't get what you expect from an €11-a-year VPS. People who complain about these servers being slow shouldn't even think about opening a support ticket or whining. (just my opinion ;))

    wdym? Any cpu steal is haram, even on 11€/y.

    What is your business so I can make sure not to make a purchase?

    What could be the reason for this? :cold_sweat:

    You're blaming users for a provider's failure. They should stand behind what they sell and ensure it can actually be utilized. By telling users that they shouldn't expect a usable service and shouldn't submit a support ticket, you're saying that provider doesn't need to do that. From my perspective, that means it is possible you would act the same to your own users.

    If sharing an opinion counts as "attacking" someone, then my bad, though that definitely wasn't my intention. :wink:

    That said, I completely agree that the provider is to blame here.
    They are selling service XYZ on paper, but delivering something entirely different.

    It honestly feels like one of those social media ads promising you'll get rich quick with a €500 investment. :D

    I didn't say you were attacking anyone, I said you were blaming them. It seems like what you're trying to say is "you should have known better than to buy that garbage", which I agree with to an extent. I just really don't like the tendency for people here to use the cost of a service to excuse providers from the need to provide said service. Hosts need to get roasted when they don't meet their obligations.

    Thanked by 1OscarCipriano
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