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  • @davide said:

    @Shot2 said:

    @concept said:
    honeypot

    Never gets old

    like some abductees

    i read from al idrisi that before the 12th century the arabs used to abduct children from inner africa by offering free dried dates. the kids would ask where did you get them from, the arabs would respond come with me. then the kids would be sold at the slave markets on the shores and some would arrive to yemen and some to india.

    at the slave markets female chimpanzees were also sold along with people, you can imagine the purpose.

    free candies this dick

    tagging @rustelekom for his cultural perspective

    i am investigating 8 millions per year child abduction. I did not trust this number the first time i heard it. I did not trust it the second time i heard it. Today I believe it. (and let me be clear i am super glad if i am wrong)

  • I, for one, am excited to use it for my Invidious instance.

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  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep

    @sillycat said:
    I, for one, am excited to use it for my Invidious instance.

    Same actually.

    I wonder if it will be whitelisted for social media services so I can use it as proxy for privacy frontends :joy:

    in minecraft of course - i would never break any ToS of any service

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  • looks like a Federal Honeypot. would not doubt it would be using cloudflare warp and wireguard at least

  • davidedavide Member
    edited March 21

    @naas1201 said:

    @davide said:

    @Shot2 said:

    @concept said:
    honeypot

    Never gets old

    like some abductees

    i read from al idrisi that before the 12th century the arabs used to abduct children from inner africa by offering free dried dates. the kids would ask where did you get them from, the arabs would respond come with me. then the kids would be sold at the slave markets on the shores and some would arrive to yemen and some to india.

    at the slave markets female chimpanzees were also sold along with people, you can imagine the purpose.

    free candies this dick

    tagging @rustelekom for his cultural perspective

    i am investigating 8 millions per year child abduction. I did not trust this number the first time i heard it. I did not trust it the second time i heard it. Today I believe it. (and let me be clear i am super glad if i am wrong)

    It makes sense knowing that abduction means watching TV at a friend's place while the parents are busy bothering the police. But assault is my favorite nothingburger word. I've probably been assaulted 8 or 9 times today while alone in my house.

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  • forestforest Member

    @davide said:

    @naas1201 said:

    @davide said:

    @Shot2 said:

    @concept said:
    honeypot

    Never gets old

    like some abductees

    i read from al idrisi that before the 12th century the arabs used to abduct children from inner africa by offering free dried dates. the kids would ask where did you get them from, the arabs would respond come with me. then the kids would be sold at the slave markets on the shores and some would arrive to yemen and some to india.

    at the slave markets female chimpanzees were also sold along with people, you can imagine the purpose.

    free candies this dick

    tagging @rustelekom for his cultural perspective

    i am investigating 8 millions per year child abduction. I did not trust this number the first time i heard it. I did not trust it the second time i heard it. Today I believe it. (and let me be clear i am super glad if i am wrong)

    It makes sense knowing that abduction means watching TV at a friend's place while the parents are busy bothering the police. But assault is my favorite nothingburger word. I've probably been assaulted 8 or 9 times today while alone in my house.

    Indeed. And the second most common type of "abduction" is a child leaving with their preferred parent without going through court to determine custudy. Only an extreme minority of abduction cases are non-consensual.

  • MonocleMonocle Member

    Well unless they have everything open sourced. Wouldn't trust them at all.
    Also we don't lack trustable privacy VPNs like Windscribe, Proton and Mullvad

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  • forestforest Member
    edited March 22

    @Monocle said:
    Well unless they have everything open sourced. Wouldn't trust them at all.
    Also we don't lack trustable privacy VPNs like Windscribe, Proton and Mullvad

    Even if everything is open source, you can't trust them. All of those above VPN companies, even if they are honest about not keeping logs, can still get you deanonymized by exported NetFlow records at their upstreams. There are companies like Team Cymru who sell to governments the ability to deanonymize VPNs using such technology.

    Not to mention, there is nothing that stops a VPN company from investigating and deanonymizing connections manually and in real time without using logs. After all, refusal to keep logs only prevents retroactive deanonymization. ProtonVPN, for example, is known to have deanonymized abusive connections in this way without having saved or read a single log file.

    https://security.stackexchange.com/a/175186/106285

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  • MonocleMonocle Member

    @forest said:

    @Monocle said:
    Well unless they have everything open sourced. Wouldn't trust them at all.
    Also we don't lack trustable privacy VPNs like Windscribe, Proton and Mullvad

    Even if everything is open source, you can't trust them. All of those above VPN companies, even if they are honest about not keeping logs, can still get you deanonymized by exported NetFlow records at their upstreams. There are companies like Team Cymru who sell to governments the ability to deanonymize VPNs using such technology.

    Not to mention, there is nothing that stops a VPN company from investigating and deanonymizing connections manually and in real time without using logs. After all, refusal to keep logs only prevents retroactive deanonymization. ProtonVPN, for example, is known to have deanonymized abusive connections in this way.

    https://security.stackexchange.com/a/175186/106285

    Well, these are probably the most you can get from a VPN service. And they have somewhat proven themselves in court. Otherwise just use TOR.

  • forestforest Member

    @Monocle said: Well, these are probably the most you can get from a VPN service. And they have somewhat proven themselves in court. Otherwise just use TOR.

    Not sure about Windscribe or Mullvad, but I would steer clear from ProtonVPN.

  • JosephFJosephF Member

    @forest said:

    @Monocle said: Well, these are probably the most you can get from a VPN service. And they have somewhat proven themselves in court. Otherwise just use TOR.

    Not sure about Windscribe or Mullvad, but I would steer clear from ProtonVPN.

    Why?

  • forestforest Member

    @JosephF said:

    @forest said:

    @Monocle said: Well, these are probably the most you can get from a VPN service. And they have somewhat proven themselves in court. Otherwise just use TOR.

    Not sure about Windscribe or Mullvad, but I would steer clear from ProtonVPN.

    Why?

    Because they have cooperated with law enforcement to deanonymize their VPN users (I can't find the resources for that, sorry) and have shown various other actions that are contrary to privacy and anonymity such as:

    • Misleading advertising that implies that they will go above and beyond to protect user's identities
    • Fighting against privacy-based cryptocurrencies while trying to promote their own non-private coin
    • Silently cooperating with authorities even when they have the technical and legal ability not to do so
    • Performing aggressive and non-privacy-preserving telemetry collection on many of their products

    Meanwhile, Mullvad has partnered with Tor Project to assist in research, browser development, and funding and, to the best of my knowledge, have never attempted to deanonymize their own users. As for Windscribe, I don't have the slightest idea.

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  • @forest said:

    @JosephF said:

    @forest said:

    @Monocle said: Well, these are probably the most you can get from a VPN service. And they have somewhat proven themselves in court. Otherwise just use TOR.

    Not sure about Windscribe or Mullvad, but I would steer clear from ProtonVPN.

    Why?

    Because they have cooperated with law enforcement to deanonymize their VPN users (I can't find the resources for that, sorry) and have shown various other actions that are contrary to privacy and anonymity such as:

    • Misleading advertising that implies that they will go above and beyond to protect user's identities
    • Fighting against privacy-based cryptocurrencies while trying to promote their own non-private coin
    • Silently cooperating with authorities even when they have the technical and legal ability not to do so
    • Performing aggressive and non-privacy-preserving telemetry collection on many of their products

    Meanwhile, Mullvad has partnered with Tor Project to assist in research, browser development, and funding and, to the best of my knowledge, have never attempted to deanonymize their own users. As for Windscribe, I don't have the slightest idea.

    I actually always recommend mullvad for paid vpn and proton for free vpn when people are not the profile for TOR, so i can't agree more.

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  • forestforest Member

    @naas1201 said:

    @forest said:

    @JosephF said:

    @forest said:

    @Monocle said: Well, these are probably the most you can get from a VPN service. And they have somewhat proven themselves in court. Otherwise just use TOR.

    Not sure about Windscribe or Mullvad, but I would steer clear from ProtonVPN.

    Why?

    Because they have cooperated with law enforcement to deanonymize their VPN users (I can't find the resources for that, sorry) and have shown various other actions that are contrary to privacy and anonymity such as:

    • Misleading advertising that implies that they will go above and beyond to protect user's identities
    • Fighting against privacy-based cryptocurrencies while trying to promote their own non-private coin
    • Silently cooperating with authorities even when they have the technical and legal ability not to do so
    • Performing aggressive and non-privacy-preserving telemetry collection on many of their products

    Meanwhile, Mullvad has partnered with Tor Project to assist in research, browser development, and funding and, to the best of my knowledge, have never attempted to deanonymize their own users. As for Windscribe, I don't have the slightest idea.

    I actually always recommend mullvad for paid vpn and proton for free vpn when people are not the profile for TOR, so i can't agree more.

    I usually say that VPNs are good for mild, casual anonymity (keeping the MPAA from pestering your ISP) and protecting your traffic when you're on an open, unsecured hotspot, but I try to emphasize that their anonymity is quite weak.

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  • @forest said:

    @naas1201 said:

    @forest said:

    @JosephF said:

    @forest said:

    @Monocle said: Well, these are probably the most you can get from a VPN service. And they have somewhat proven themselves in court. Otherwise just use TOR.

    Not sure about Windscribe or Mullvad, but I would steer clear from ProtonVPN.

    Why?

    Because they have cooperated with law enforcement to deanonymize their VPN users (I can't find the resources for that, sorry) and have shown various other actions that are contrary to privacy and anonymity such as:

    • Misleading advertising that implies that they will go above and beyond to protect user's identities
    • Fighting against privacy-based cryptocurrencies while trying to promote their own non-private coin
    • Silently cooperating with authorities even when they have the technical and legal ability not to do so
    • Performing aggressive and non-privacy-preserving telemetry collection on many of their products

    Meanwhile, Mullvad has partnered with Tor Project to assist in research, browser development, and funding and, to the best of my knowledge, have never attempted to deanonymize their own users. As for Windscribe, I don't have the slightest idea.

    I actually always recommend mullvad for paid vpn and proton for free vpn when people are not the profile for TOR, so i can't agree more.

    I usually say that VPNs are good for mild, casual anonymity (keeping the MPAA from pestering your ISP) and protecting your traffic when you're on an open, unsecured hotspot, but I try to emphasize that their anonymity is quite weak.

    yeah. totally agree. We are betrayed at hardware level now ..

  • Lovely domain but no, just no.

    And remember kids, the next time that somebody tells you, "The government wouldn't do that," oh yes they would.
    ~ Wendigooner or something

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  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    .gov - is USA domain zone for goverment? Freedom and .gov is incompatible at all :)

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  • 3K333K33 Member, Host Rep

    @forest said:

    @JosephF said:

    @forest said:

    @Monocle said: Well, these are probably the most you can get from a VPN service. And they have somewhat proven themselves in court. Otherwise just use TOR.

    Not sure about Windscribe or Mullvad, but I would steer clear from ProtonVPN.

    Why?

    Because they have cooperated with law enforcement to deanonymize their VPN users (I can't find the resources for that, sorry) and have shown various other actions that are contrary to privacy and anonymity such as:

    • Misleading advertising that implies that they will go above and beyond to protect user's identities
    • Fighting against privacy-based cryptocurrencies while trying to promote their own non-private coin
    • Silently cooperating with authorities even when they have the technical and legal ability not to do so
    • Performing aggressive and non-privacy-preserving telemetry collection on many of their products

    Meanwhile, Mullvad has partnered with Tor Project to assist in research, browser development, and funding and, to the best of my knowledge, have never attempted to deanonymize their own users. As for Windscribe, I don't have the slightest idea.

    I can also recommend IVPN, servers are faster than on Mullvad and i’m not aware about them doing such things either.

    For Windscribe, I believe few years back it was not recommended, also they offer (or did offer) free plans. There is nice saying that you pay either way, with money or with your data…

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  • Doge is full of ddos kids, ofc its gonna be a vpn, what else would they do lol. Same as always.

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  • KodomuKodomu Member

    If you could trust a government to not be worried about whatever you say, then you wouldn't even have any reason to use a VPN (or TOR). So why would a government make one unless they couldn't be trusted?

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  • JosephFJosephF Member
    edited March 23

    Freedom.gov is made for the average, non-technical, citizens in Iran, Russia, Germany, and other countries that make it illegal to publish or access certain kinds of information on the Internet.

    Stuff like offensive, bigoted, abusive, hateful content, as decreed by the EU bureaucrats in Brussels. Or the right to be forgotten stuff.

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  • @Netralex said:
    Lovely domain but no, just no.

    And remember kids, the next time that somebody tells you, "The government wouldn't do that," oh yes they would.
    ~ Wendigooner or something

    Yep, they are offering it because most users are now using their own VPN, and it is hard for them to monitor what you do. Don't be stupid to bite it.

  • JosephFJosephF Member

    @jonesolutions said:

    @Netralex said:
    Lovely domain but no, just no.

    And remember kids, the next time that somebody tells you, "The government wouldn't do that," oh yes they would.
    ~ Wendigooner or something

    Yep, they are offering it because most users are now using their own VPN, and it is hard for them to monitor what you do. Don't be stupid to bite it.

    I highly doubt anyone who already has a VPN would ever consider switching to this.

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  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    @JosephF said: citizens in Iran, Russia, Germany, and other countries that make it illegal to publish or access certain kinds of information on the Internet.

    The funny thing about it though is it'll likely be the easiest proxy/VPN for these governments to block lol.

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  • JosephFJosephF Member

    @MikeA said:

    @JosephF said: citizens in Iran, Russia, Germany, and other countries that make it illegal to publish or access certain kinds of information on the Internet.

    The funny thing about it though is it'll likely be the easiest proxy/VPN for these governments to block lol.

    Except that the boys in the EU will be peeing in their pants afraid of angering President Trump if they try to block it.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider
    edited March 23

    @JosephF said:

    @MikeA said:

    @JosephF said: citizens in Iran, Russia, Germany, and other countries that make it illegal to publish or access certain kinds of information on the Internet.

    The funny thing about it though is it'll likely be the easiest proxy/VPN for these governments to block lol.

    Except that the boys in the EU will be peeing in their pants afraid of angering President Trump if they try to block it.

    I was more so talking about countries like Russia, Iran, China, since they actively turn off internet in regions of the countries or censor the public internet and DNS servers. These countries would easily block a US government VPN project.

    Do European countries even block VPNs? I've never heard of Germany, France, UK, Finland, etc blocking VPN providers like PIA, Mullvad, etc.

  • forestforest Member

    They're gearing up to do it.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    @forest said:

    They're gearing up to do it.

    do they got a loicense to do that?

  • forestforest Member

    @MikeA said:

    @forest said:

    They're gearing up to do it.

    do they got a loicense to do that?

    Oi mate, you got a loicense to make that loicense joke?

  • @MannDude said: Would rather see the EFF or other large privacy organization take this role, or people like Brave, Mozilla, etc funding such a project...

    Fun fact: the US already funds plenty of projects with this goal and DOGE tried to defund them (although after some lawsuits, they were forced to pay up).

    https://www.opentech.fund/

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69765042/open-technology-fund-v-lake/

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