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Hey openclaw been blowing up lately—where are you hosting? Any ultra‑cheap setups?

openidopenid Member

Not counting AI token usage—just the hosting cost, excluding any hardware purchases like a Mac Mini or other devices.

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  • cloudblastcloudblast Member, Patron Provider

    You just need a VPS really, Mac Mini is not necessary in most cases unless you want to use iMessage or similar

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    Any VPS with like 6-8GB+ works fine from what I've seen.

  • Not having it is the cheapest option 👌🏽

  • jcn50jcn50 Member
    edited March 4

    @MikeA said: Any VPS with like 6-8GB+ works fine from what I've seen.

    It is actually very low CPU & RAM usage, and can run on a 1vCPU/1GB RAM (+ 4GB~6GB vSwap)/and 30GB disk! So you can have fun for ~$10/year (or less) just for the hosting.

    Thanked by 1MikeA
  • openidopenid Member

    @jcn50 said:

    @MikeA said: Any VPS with like 6-8GB+ works fine from what I've seen.

    It is actually very low CPU & RAM usage, and can run on a 1vCPU/1GB RAM (+ 4GB~6GB vSwap)/and 30GB disk! So you can have fun for ~$10/year (or less) just for the hosting.

    really?then i must try it

  • nikionikio Member

    @nghialele said:
    Not having it is the cheapest option 👌🏽

    And the correct option.

    Thanked by 1forest
  • orangevpsorangevps Member, Patron Provider

    VPS with tailscale peer to peer is great idea!

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • stefemanstefeman Member

    Full of malware in skills repository and its abandonware after the founder and several key personel joined OpenAI

    Thanked by 2nghialele forest
  • openidopenid Member

    @stefeman said:
    Full of malware in skills repository and its abandonware after the founder and several key personel joined OpenAI

    heard but i hadnt used the clawhub

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited March 4

    @openid said:

    @stefeman said:
    Full of malware in skills repository and its abandonware after the founder and several key personel joined OpenAI

    heard but i hadnt used the clawhub

    At least one in five skills is infected with infostealer or trojan or something else.

    Not to mention the devs don't give a shit about the situation.

  • jcn50jcn50 Member

    @openid said: really?then i must try it

    Yeah you can use one of your Dedirock's box! Just make sure the CPU has all instructions:

    cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep rdrand
    cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep " aes"
    
    Thanked by 1openid
  • BharatBBharatB Member, Patron Provider

    better go with ZeroClaw instead

    Thanked by 2nghialele jcn50
  • motafokamotafoka Member

    @nghialele said:
    Not having it is the cheapest option 👌🏽

  • motafokamotafoka Member

    @jcn50 said:

    @openid said: really?then i must try it

    Yeah you can use one of your Dedirock's box! Just make sure the CPU has all instructions:

    cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep rdrand
    cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep " aes"
    

    My Dedirock box doesn't have rdrand.... :#
    That is a sign to not install this... >:)

    Thanked by 1OpaqueRegistrant
  • jcn50jcn50 Member
    edited March 4

    @motafoka said: My Dedirock box doesn't have rdrand....

    You can either:
    1) ask for the node to be changed~ (your VM will be wiped & re-created)
    2) install the haveged package

    Thanked by 1motafoka
  • interservermikeinterservermike Member, Patron Provider

    It runs fine on an Ubuntu VPS. Even better with GUI for the browser work. Use a good model like minimax-m2.5, or you will have issues with tool calls. The token usage is not crazy if you get access to it over openrouter.ai. Or run it on your own GPU at InterServer for privacy :-)

  • dosaidosai Member

    It will be merged with openai so no.

  • motafokamotafoka Member

    @jcn50 said:

    @motafoka said: My Dedirock box doesn't have rdrand....

    You can either:
    1) ask for the node to be changed~ (your VM will be wiped & re-created)
    2) install the haveged package

    I'll try to ask for a node change first, while the VM still not fully in use.

    Thanks for the info

  • forestforest Member

    @jcn50 said:

    @motafoka said: My Dedirock box doesn't have rdrand....

    You can either:
    1) ask for the node to be changed~ (your VM will be wiped & re-created)
    2) install the haveged package

    haveged won't do anything on any modern kernel. It only kicks in when the entropy estimation from /dev/random is low, but the Linux kernel has switched away from using the blocking entropy pool in kernel 4.x.

    Thanked by 1jugganuts
  • gbzret4dgbzret4d Member

    I can host it for for you on my big vps

    Trust me bro

  • dergelbedergelbe Member
    edited March 5

    @jcn50 said:

    @MikeA said: Any VPS with like 6-8GB+ works fine from what I've seen.

    It is actually very low CPU & RAM usage, and can run on a 1vCPU/1GB RAM

    I believe it needs 2 core CPUs. I didn't manage to install it on my 1 core 4Gb VPS. Went with ZeroClaw in a docker container instead,

    @BharatB said:
    better go with ZeroClaw instead

    It runs on smaller hardware, but it's not much talked about. Hard to find information, no tutorials etc. I run it, but plan to switch to OpenClaw.

  • jcn50jcn50 Member
    edited March 5

    @forest said: haveged won't do anything on any modern kernel. It only kicks in when the entropy estimation from /dev/random is low, but the Linux kernel has switched away from using the blocking entropy pool in kernel 4.x.

    It did fix for me~ entropy was 100 or less, and was being quickly depleted (with all the SSL/TLS/encryption routines).

    @dergelbe said: I believe it needs 2 core CPUs. I didn't manage to install it on my 1 core 4Gb VPS. Went with ZeroClaw in a docker container instead,

    What error did you get? OpenClaw does not need a lot of CPU (maybe you installed via Docker too? Try without it~), because all the AI part is outsourced to your assigned model (via API).

  • dergelbedergelbe Member

    @jcn50 said:

    @dergelbe said: I believe it needs 2 core CPUs. I didn't manage to install it on my 1 core 4Gb VPS. Went with ZeroClaw in a docker container instead,

    What error did you get? OpenClaw does not need a lot of CPU (maybe you installed via Docker too? Try without it~), because all the AI part is outsourced to your assigned model (via API).

    Yes, I tried to install it in Docker. Maybe that was the issue. Meanwhile I have another VPS 4cpu/8Gb - but bhyve virtualization that also causes some headaches (issues around Docker, so put it in /home/ under a special user with no writing rights outside of some/home/ folders)

  • chorongchorong Member

    @motafoka said: Dedirock box doesn't have rdrand

    See if your CPU identifies as QEMU or not. If it does, put in a support ticket to ask for host passthrough on your VM.

  • Yes openclaw has been "blowing" up User's security if that's what you mean.

    where are you hosting?

    I am not :)

  • motafokamotafoka Member

    @chorong said:

    @motafoka said: Dedirock box doesn't have rdrand

    See if your CPU identifies as QEMU or not. If it does, put in a support ticket to ask for host passthrough on your VM.

    I put in a support ticket and they moved my instance to a node with all the flags.
    Great customer service so far.

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