Hey openclaw been blowing up lately—where are you hosting? Any ultra‑cheap setups?

openid

Not counting AI token usage—just the hosting cost, excluding any hardware purchases like a Mac Mini or other devices.

cloudblast

You just need a VPS really, Mac Mini is not necessary in most cases unless you want to use iMessage or similar

MikeA

Any VPS with like 6-8GB+ works fine from what I've seen.

nghialele

Not having it is the cheapest option 👌🏽

jcn50

@MikeA said: Any VPS with like 6-8GB+ works fine from what I've seen.

It is actually very low CPU & RAM usage, and can run on a 1vCPU/1GB RAM (+ 4GB~6GB vSwap)/and 30GB disk! So you can have fun for ~$10/year (or less) just for the hosting.

openid

@jcn50 said:

@MikeA said: Any VPS with like 6-8GB+ works fine from what I've seen.

It is actually very low CPU & RAM usage, and can run on a 1vCPU/1GB RAM (+ 4GB~6GB vSwap)/and 30GB disk! So you can have fun for ~$10/year (or less) just for the hosting.

really?then i must try it

nikio

@nghialele said:
Not having it is the cheapest option 👌🏽

And the correct option.

orangevps

VPS with tailscale peer to peer is great idea!

stefeman

Full of malware in skills repository and its abandonware after the founder and several key personel joined OpenAI

openid

@stefeman said:
Full of malware in skills repository and its abandonware after the founder and several key personel joined OpenAI

heard but i hadnt used the clawhub

stefeman

@openid said:

@stefeman said:
Full of malware in skills repository and its abandonware after the founder and several key personel joined OpenAI

heard but i hadnt used the clawhub

At least one in five skills is infected with infostealer or trojan or something else.

Not to mention the devs don't give a shit about the situation.

jcn50

@openid said: really?then i must try it

Yeah you can use one of your Dedirock's box! Just make sure the CPU has all instructions:

cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep rdrand
cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep " aes"

BharatB

better go with ZeroClaw instead

motafoka

@nghialele said:
Not having it is the cheapest option 👌🏽

motafoka

@jcn50 said:

@openid said: really?then i must try it

Yeah you can use one of your Dedirock's box! Just make sure the CPU has all instructions:

cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep rdrand
cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep " aes"

My Dedirock box doesn't have rdrand....
That is a sign to not install this...

jcn50

@motafoka said: My Dedirock box doesn't have rdrand....

You can either:
1) ask for the node to be changed~ (your VM will be wiped & re-created)
2) install the haveged package

interservermike

It runs fine on an Ubuntu VPS. Even better with GUI for the browser work. Use a good model like minimax-m2.5, or you will have issues with tool calls. The token usage is not crazy if you get access to it over openrouter.ai. Or run it on your own GPU at InterServer for privacy :-)

dosai

It will be merged with openai so no.

motafoka

@jcn50 said:

@motafoka said: My Dedirock box doesn't have rdrand....

You can either:
1) ask for the node to be changed~ (your VM will be wiped & re-created)
2) install the haveged package

I'll try to ask for a node change first, while the VM still not fully in use.

Thanks for the info

forest

@jcn50 said:

@motafoka said: My Dedirock box doesn't have rdrand....

You can either:
1) ask for the node to be changed~ (your VM will be wiped & re-created)
2) install the haveged package

haveged won't do anything on any modern kernel. It only kicks in when the entropy estimation from /dev/random is low, but the Linux kernel has switched away from using the blocking entropy pool in kernel 4.x.

gbzret4d

I can host it for for you on my big vps

Trust me bro

dergelbe

@jcn50 said:

@MikeA said: Any VPS with like 6-8GB+ works fine from what I've seen.

It is actually very low CPU & RAM usage, and can run on a 1vCPU/1GB RAM

I believe it needs 2 core CPUs. I didn't manage to install it on my 1 core 4Gb VPS. Went with ZeroClaw in a docker container instead,

@BharatB said:
better go with ZeroClaw instead

It runs on smaller hardware, but it's not much talked about. Hard to find information, no tutorials etc. I run it, but plan to switch to OpenClaw.

jcn50

@forest said: haveged won't do anything on any modern kernel. It only kicks in when the entropy estimation from /dev/random is low, but the Linux kernel has switched away from using the blocking entropy pool in kernel 4.x.

It did fix for me~ entropy was 100 or less, and was being quickly depleted (with all the SSL/TLS/encryption routines).

@dergelbe said: I believe it needs 2 core CPUs. I didn't manage to install it on my 1 core 4Gb VPS. Went with ZeroClaw in a docker container instead,

What error did you get? OpenClaw does not need a lot of CPU (maybe you installed via Docker too? Try without it~), because all the AI part is outsourced to your assigned model (via API).

dergelbe

@jcn50 said:

@dergelbe said: I believe it needs 2 core CPUs. I didn't manage to install it on my 1 core 4Gb VPS. Went with ZeroClaw in a docker container instead,

What error did you get? OpenClaw does not need a lot of CPU (maybe you installed via Docker too? Try without it~), because all the AI part is outsourced to your assigned model (via API).

Yes, I tried to install it in Docker. Maybe that was the issue. Meanwhile I have another VPS 4cpu/8Gb - but bhyve virtualization that also causes some headaches (issues around Docker, so put it in /home/ under a special user with no writing rights outside of some/home/ folders)

chorong

@motafoka said: Dedirock box doesn't have rdrand

See if your CPU identifies as QEMU or not. If it does, put in a support ticket to ask for host passthrough on your VM.

whynotlearn

Yes openclaw has been "blowing" up User's security if that's what you mean.

where are you hosting?

I am not

motafoka

@chorong said:

@motafoka said: Dedirock box doesn't have rdrand

See if your CPU identifies as QEMU or not. If it does, put in a support ticket to ask for host passthrough on your VM.

I put in a support ticket and they moved my instance to a node with all the flags.
Great customer service so far.

Hosting_b2b

https://hostingb2b.com/how-to/ht-vps-hosting/how-to-deploy-openclaw-linux/