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No, bulk discounts mean you would have to purchase large amount of drives. And I'm not going to cover it, since there's bigger hosts that could explain better how bulk pricing work (at normal situation)
Back to the point, you got to find good retailer/distributor/md who will let you to purchase at md/distributor prices... Currently, it's the best asking price, that you could get, even when you only need a single 18TB drive
Try calling the md/distributor at your country, say the customer who rent vps, running on your romanian hosting shed next to your father's barn want one-time disk purchase. Then, they'd give you better price than $35/TB
Should I open a new thread to sell it to some random basent hoster for bitcoins?
Netcup had ordered many servers months ago but they won't be delivered. I've heard (not in this case) that the distributor/vendor is selling it to other customers for a higher price and accepts a possible breach of contract because he can earn significantly more money this way.
My company where I work also ordered many devices a while ago but the manufactur won't deliver it and asked for a higher price.
Now I'm laughing at people who invested in crypto coins
Sell them at high prices before it also busts
Hi,
we ordered 64 GB DDR5 UDIMM for ~155 EUR / ea in september 2025.
In october i started to ask for the status. In december the merchant told me he wont get any delivery anymore for this and paid back the money we prepaid.
I started complaining about existing prepaid contract and bla.
End of story: for 300,- EUR / ea they could deliver it and it reached us this week. We paid the 300 EUR / ea.
Maybe they made some extra EUR on us. Maybe they bought it for the current marketprice ~ 600-900 EUR/ea and just tried to reduce the pain of moneyloss and share the pain with us.
Pure question of trust and partnership quality. I personally believe them taking part of the bullet and accepted some loss in there to keep up a positive business relation.
But yes... all orders that have been in fly in Q4 2025 have issues. Depending on the contract the problem is on merchant's side or on buyer side...
They can profit once, or a few times.
Just imagine the HDD being more valuable than the crypto wallet key saved on that hdd that opens up a wallet of 10 bitcoin....
Fate loves irony.
Sometime, all it took is the word
urgentand willingness to pay more for immediate fulfilment.Cost minimizationmindset won't work when they know the priceis going up in short term. They know they have the bargaining power if they
take hostageof your order.Oh, it's still stuck? Get a flight ticket& uber, send someone and/or yourself, visit their office with stacks of €500 bill on your backpack.
Hi,
well, hrhr, i guess the next step will be switching to mafia methods... taking some big guys with you and asking friendly in person how we could solve the problem :>
Having travel companion is a must when you're walking with >€10k.
When your business is at stake, don't treat it lightly. If not, you will be taken lightly
The problem is that they too are dependent on a dealer and cannot or will not deliver, as they are also unable to obtain the ordered products at that price, or the dealers become greedy. Here on LET we will see many price increases in the upcoming weeks since most are only resellers or colo
Netcup stated this is their statement that they order always months in advance and imo it's not a company with no clue how to run a business since I know 2 people who worked and work in the parent company and they aren't the smallest hoster out there (no comparison to aws, ovh,...) and they also have problems to get their ordered products.
Hi,
yes, at the end of the day you can usually not blame anyone.
We as hosters, no matter the size, are just a customer, who buys from a merchant ( who is buying from a merchant, who is buying from another merchant, who is..... )
So 5 stations later we have a merchant who did not get delivered in time because of what ever or because based on the contracts he wont get the wares for the old price and somehow tries to get out of this misery claiming that he dont get delivery and cant deliver.
I mean... you can not complain with someone who himself simply did not get delivered.
In my fairytail-pony-style i asked if he can not contact his merchant ( who can contact his merchant and so on ) to get a delivery date.
But thats something they wont do. Maybe if you ordered 10k pieces for 1 mio. EUR... but not for small fry like us.
At the end of the day, it seems no one knows when he get delivered and if he get delivered and if yes for what pricing. This all stuff is just going through too many hands...
All you can do is to accept the situation and adjust....
... and raise your prices ^^;
Remember the masks, rubbing alcohol squeeze? Why suddenly everyone is out of basic supply?
Staying ahead of the trend is the important bit.
The problem is: we all pay up (be it hoster or client) because some idiots think that AI will evolve into a money-printing machine instead of the being the money-burning-machine it is and will be (or ai providers and users alike).
So we don't want AI...
... we want $7/y vps with 2GB.
That's why you should find the MD (2nd), or the distributor/OEM(3rd). Filling boring paperwork is awful, but having direct line with the MD is very handy, especially with this situation.
Then, there's no reason to limit yourself with a single MD.
"Big hosters like Hetzner are far less concerned by the current situation than the small players".
Aged really well.
Funny side note: many small players are trying really hard to keep price increase as small as possible, i.e. they themselves eat some of the dirt.
Because besides price, small players has nothing to offer in order to bring value. Big players is way better with network, hardware and staffing. One man teams always go the easiest way - competing with prices by keeping margins low. And when shot hits the fan - exit scam.
You should all cancel your servers and go on vacation till they decrease again.
we received itemized list, and there was surprises, some were +43% not the +40% determined earlier.
Does anyone know if /29 IPv4 subnet can do SWIP?
Hetzner always has new surprises for us!
By the way, our list didn't have any IP, so we cannot understand how much each item cost!
And they (Hetzner) refuse to send a full list before April 1.
This is what they sent us:
We got exact itemized list, but didn't check for IPs. we have like 5 things there only, almost accounting costing the same as the services lol.
Nice, been there.... not pretty.
Not necessarily related to your case, just a general reminder to some that might get the same treatment.
Most companies/websites selling hardware don’t actually have the parts physically in stock or at least not all of what they advertise. What they have is an XML feed from one ( or more ) large warehouses/3'rd parties and they build their offers on top of that, they call it “virtual inventory” I call it BS.
Now IT parts warehouses ( regardless if new or used ) that have inventory is tiny versus sites that sell. I would even put the ratio somewhere around 300–400 sellers to 1 actual stocking warehouses/distributor/importer. ( yet I feel this is even worse, but it also depends heavily on country and region and SKU in qestion )
The issue is that the seller doesn’t physically reserve or own the SKU in most cases, it is the warehouses that does.
Now mix in the price hike-shit-show of the last 4 moths......
You sign an offer and you prepay an advance or the whole of it. ( if you pay the whole value + you get an invoice that is a bit different versus partial pay on a proforma, a bit down on why that is different )
And now add 20,50 or more customers hitting “add to cart” in relative same time-frame.
Within days availability goes to.... well..... 0. And when availability is low, price goes up up up.
At that point, old contracts suddenly become “complicated/messy/hard to deliver” Some might say not necessarily out of bad faith. - these setups work in a normal steady market where demand does not jump to 800% in 2 weeks.
So now suddenly you get a mail/whatsaap/phone call saying: hey, aaaa... remember that last order you sent me an advance/payed in full?, due to bla bla abl bla you need to cash out X% more.
So yeah, that actually happens.
As a note:
In the EU at least, yet I am sure this is pretty universal in modern economies, once a supplier issues an invoice that is a binding sales contract and at that point ownership of the gods in question just changed "hands", it is not he's stuff anymore, it is mine, at that point, the supplier has a delivery obligation - end of story.
All these are subject to contracts and other clauses if there are any involved as those out-class the invoice, yet if there are none of these in the mix, the sole invoice is the change of ownership of the product/service in question.
Important distinction:
Invoice not Purchase Order ( A Purchase Order is an offer from the buyer )
Invoice not Proforma Invoice ( Proforma Invoice is a confirmation or request for advance payment, it can be 1% to 100% of the total, but it is not an invoice )
And so do I. Maybe the current situation rinses some of those [self-censored] out of the system (which is quite broken anyway).
AFAIC I'd welcome a law that only products that are physically in stock of the seller or known to be on their way to them may be sold, period.
That's going to break the "business model" of this "resellers/traders/dropshippers" since they don't physically own a stock. Some pay quite a some to reserve the rights to get the pricelist or putting dibs on the stock (which they would have to settle within reasonable time, else getting overriden for blocking others). They are the kinds of store who will try to sell goods from the neighboring store's stock.
So? I wouldn't miss those free riders.
I agree. These free riders are supposed to be convenience layer. But, if they can't offer convenience, why bother using their services?