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Netcup has canceled its winter sale scheduled for today

The CEO and founder of Anexia. (Netcup's parent company) announced on their customer forums the temporary announcement due to rising costs and difficulty delivering hardware. This month’s winter promotion has been canceled at short notice.

https://forum.netcup.de/informationen/netcup-community/netcup-updates/21752-rampocalypse-an-honest-update-on-the-hardware-situation/

And according to his explanation, the possibility of price increases on existing contracts cannot be ruled out.

Following the price increases of OVH and Hetzner, will Netcup also start?

I personally think it's a bit ridiculous that even though they claim to be "open and transparent", they suddenly announce less than 24 hours before the event that they can't deliver due to out of stock.

I think this is a way to build momentum for subsequent price increases and price increases on existing contracts, and I hope this possibility does not happen.

Thanked by 3emgh oloke JohnnySac

Comments

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
  • LeviLevi Member

    Pathetic. Of course after OVH and hetz moves netcup also jumps into the train. Let's have a look: will it be 50% or 60% increase. Wanna bet?

  • @emgh said:
    Their sales are shit so nothing of value lost at least

    I'm quite worried they might raise the price on the existing contract. Currently, their CEO's response is vague and unclear, but they've confirmed they won't rule out the possibility, which is truly frustrating.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @Levi said:
    Pathetic. Of course after OVH and hetz moves netcup also jumps into the train. Let's have a look: will it be 50% or 60% increase. Wanna bet?

    If the price increase exceeds that of Hetzner, then they will give away their advantage.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @DejavuMoe said:

    @Levi said:
    Pathetic. Of course after OVH and hetz moves netcup also jumps into the train. Let's have a look: will it be 50% or 60% increase. Wanna bet?

    If the price increase exceeds that of Hetzner, then they will give away their advantage.

    Well, OVH exceeded Hetzner, but OVH offer more bang per buck after comparison of increased prices / specs. Netcup has room. After apathy kicks in "meh, it just 3 EUR..." they will be fine.

    Thanked by 1DejavuMoe
  • Just watch the stock price of OVH. Its not doing anything good for the share holders the last 6 months its minus 20%. The (dedicated servers for 9 euros per month) party is over guys...

    https://g.co/finance/OVH:EPA?window=6M

  • Every root server I've purchased from Netcup lists "Permanent Price" as a feature, I wonder how fast that will go out the window.

    Thanked by 1DejavuMoe
  • im paying full pricing for netcup rs 8000 g12 without any discount, if they hike the price up for me, i will riot.

    Thanked by 1DejavuMoe
  • LeviLevi Member

    @dbadude said:
    Just watch the stock price of OVH. Its not doing anything good for the share holders the last 6 months its minus 20%. The (dedicated servers for 9 euros per month) party is over guys...

    https://g.co/finance/OVH:EPA?window=6M

    Hardware stock madness will eventually resolve. After all, China is pumping like crazy:

    • CXMT
    • YMTC
    • Huawei (Ascend Division)
    • GigaDevice

    And a lot more. This is heavily subsidized by China and will flood the market this year. It is calculated that even LLM bastards won't be able to absorb that stock so fast.

  • xvpsxvps Member

    You highly intelligent guys should keep blaming the stable providers and accuse them of having evil plans for price hikes just to make more money, because the LET providers with the best prices will definitely do better and be rock stable for the next couple of years.

    And don't forget to pay with crypto.

    Thanked by 2mrTom DejavuMoe
  • angstromangstrom Moderator
    edited February 24

    I tend to doubt that netcup are planning a big price increase on existing contracts, because they know that this wouldn't be received well by existing customers

    It's possible that there'll be a modest price increase at the time of renewal of existing contracts, but if so, I'm sure that netcup will give advance notice about this

    As for netcup's canceling today's sale, yes, it seems to be a last-minute decision -- and perhaps for many customers, a disappointing one -- but at the same time, they probably want to try to avoid shooting themselves in the foot/feet, given all of the (price) uncertainty in the present climate, which is understandable, I think. ("We don't want to dig ourselves into a hole that we can't climb out of")

  • LeviLevi Member

    @xvps said:
    You highly intelligent guys should keep blaming the stable providers and accuse them of having evil plans for price hikes just to make more money, because the LET providers with the best prices will definitely do better and be rock stable for the next couple of years.

    And don't forget to pay with crypto.

    Aha, you forgot electricity price hikes? Electricity prices stabilized many months ago. And VPS prices didn't go down... So yea, about those "evil plans" >:)

    Do you honestly believe that business will not bank to the max on this situation?

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @emgh said:
    Their sales are shit so nothing of value lost at least

    5GB NVMe EXTRA, GRAB NOW.

  • AdvinAdvin Member, Host Rep
    edited February 24

    @Levi said:

    @xvps said:
    You highly intelligent guys should keep blaming the stable providers and accuse them of having evil plans for price hikes just to make more money, because the LET providers with the best prices will definitely do better and be rock stable for the next couple of years.

    And don't forget to pay with crypto.

    Aha, you forgot electricity price hikes? Electricity prices stabilized many months ago. And VPS prices didn't go down... So yea, about those "evil plans" >:)

    Do you honestly believe that business will not bank to the max on this situation?

    Datacenter pricing hasn't returned to what it used to be. They're also being bought out and filled with AI workloads.

    (at least, the power dense datacenters are)

    Thanked by 2DejavuMoe tentor
  • LeviLevi Member

    @Advin said: They're also being bought out and filled with AI workloads.

    Of course they are. Would you turn away deal which could be 2x - 3x market value?

  • The end is nigh.

    Thanked by 1DejavuMoe
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Neoon said:

    @emgh said:
    Their sales are shit so nothing of value lost at least

    5GB NVMe EXTRA, GRAB NOW.

    for extra money compared to normal package

  • @angstrom said:
    I tend to doubt that netcup are planning a big price increase on existing contracts, because they know that this wouldn't be received well by existing customers

    It's possible that there'll be a modest price increase at the time of renewal of existing contracts, but if so, I'm sure that netcup will give advance notice about this

    As for netcup's canceling today's sale, yes, it seems to be a last-minute decision -- and perhaps for many customers, a disappointing one -- but at the same time, they probably want to try to avoid shooting themselves in the foot/feet, given all of the (price) uncertainty in the present climate, which is understandable, I think. ("We don't want to dig ourselves into a hole that we can't climb out of")

    Yes, I heard that around 2022, due to a shortage of natural gas or energy, they roughly increased the contract prices by about 9%. Additionally, it seems there are no records of price increases for existing contracts.

    Anyway, in these difficult times, this amount is acceptable, and I can afford it.

    Thanked by 2oloke angstrom
  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @DejavuMoe said:

    @angstrom said:
    I tend to doubt that netcup are planning a big price increase on existing contracts, because they know that this wouldn't be received well by existing customers

    It's possible that there'll be a modest price increase at the time of renewal of existing contracts, but if so, I'm sure that netcup will give advance notice about this

    As for netcup's canceling today's sale, yes, it seems to be a last-minute decision -- and perhaps for many customers, a disappointing one -- but at the same time, they probably want to try to avoid shooting themselves in the foot/feet, given all of the (price) uncertainty in the present climate, which is understandable, I think. ("We don't want to dig ourselves into a hole that we can't climb out of")

    Yes, I heard that around 2022, due to a shortage of natural gas or energy, they roughly increased the contract prices by about 9%. Additionally, it seems there are no records of price increases for existing contracts.

    Anyway, in these difficult times, this amount is acceptable, and I can afford it.

    From a certain perspective, one should even praise netcup for canceling today's sale, even if it was a last-minute decision

    An alternative would have been to hold the sale and to severely limit the stock available for the sale, but then people would have complained about the lack of stock and have flooded their forums with questions or criticisms regarding the lack of stock

    Ultimately, it's hard to win: "You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't"

  • @angstrom said:

    @DejavuMoe said:

    @angstrom said:
    I tend to doubt that netcup are planning a big price increase on existing contracts, because they know that this wouldn't be received well by existing customers

    It's possible that there'll be a modest price increase at the time of renewal of existing contracts, but if so, I'm sure that netcup will give advance notice about this

    As for netcup's canceling today's sale, yes, it seems to be a last-minute decision -- and perhaps for many customers, a disappointing one -- but at the same time, they probably want to try to avoid shooting themselves in the foot/feet, given all of the (price) uncertainty in the present climate, which is understandable, I think. ("We don't want to dig ourselves into a hole that we can't climb out of")

    Yes, I heard that around 2022, due to a shortage of natural gas or energy, they roughly increased the contract prices by about 9%. Additionally, it seems there are no records of price increases for existing contracts.

    Anyway, in these difficult times, this amount is acceptable, and I can afford it.

    From a certain perspective, one should even praise netcup for canceling today's sale, even if it was a last-minute decision

    An alternative would have been to hold the sale and to severely limit the stock available for the sale, but then people would have complained about the lack of stock and have flooded their forums with questions or criticisms regarding the lack of stock

    Ultimately, it's hard to win: "You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't"

    That is.

    However, compared with a large amount of oversold inventory affecting service quality, sometimes canceling an event is also a good idea. At the very least, it can temporarily ensure that existing customer service services are not affected.

    Although Netcup has had a period of time when the performance of the Root Server has begun to decline.

    Thanked by 2oloke angstrom
  • edited February 24

    I predicted 5-10% sale yesterday, I wasn't that far off now, it's 0% or even negative%

    @Levi said:

    @dbadude said:
    Just watch the stock price of OVH. Its not doing anything good for the share holders the last 6 months its minus 20%. The (dedicated servers for 9 euros per month) party is over guys...

    https://g.co/finance/OVH:EPA?window=6M

    Hardware stock madness will eventually resolve. After all, China is pumping like crazy:

    • CXMT
    • YMTC
    • Huawei (Ascend Division)
    • GigaDevice

    And a lot more. This is heavily subsidized by China and will flood the market this year. It is calculated that even LLM bastards won't be able to absorb that stock so fast.

    We can only hope. The American century of humiliation is just beginning.

  • I have been watching https://www.netcup.com/de/server/vps/vps-piko-g11s-12m
    for over a year to try to grab one. It now returns a 404 instead of saying "out of stock".:(

    Thanked by 1DejavuMoe
  • The most logical step from a business perspective if you are short on supply + high price on anything you can get is to increase your price between your existing and new service.

    1. It spread of the cost increase so your service doesn't become uncompetitive. 2. The increase will cause some cancellation and free up some hardware for new customer so you don't have to buy as much overpriced one.
    Thanked by 1DejavuMoe
  • edited February 24

    @debian3 said:
    The most logical step from a business perspective if you are short on supply + high price on anything you can get is to increase your price between your existing and new service.

    1. It spread of the cost increase so your service doesn't become uncompetitive. 2. The increase will cause some cancellation and free up some hardware for new customer so you don't have to buy as much overpriced one.

    It's basically trading reputation for money, which different businesses have different priorities on. Like Hetzner has a pretty good reputation for stuff like Minecraft, and it wouldn't keep that reputation if it just doubled the price of existing servers. Even though it would get more money it would also get less customers in the future. But it can keep its reputation with a price increase for new servers, because everyone knows about the part shortage, then when the shortage is over it can put prices back down and keep getting customers.

    Thanked by 1DejavuMoe
  • @roblowend said:
    I have been watching https://www.netcup.com/de/server/vps/vps-piko-g11s-12m
    for over a year to try to grab one. It now returns a 404 instead of saying "out of stock".:

    Now the price with IPv4 has increased by 0.5 euros, and the price with IPv6 only remains the same as before.

    can buy now:

    https://www.netcup.com/en/server/vps/vps-pico-g11s-iv-12m-nue?ref=325620 (has aff)

  • There is a rampocalypse sale starting now
    https://www.netcup.com/en/deals (no aff)

    Domains, IPs for existing server, vlan, Failover IPs.
    But no VPS or VDS

    Thanked by 1DejavuMoe
  • zedzed Member

    @DejavuMoe said:

    @roblowend said:
    I have been watching https://www.netcup.com/de/server/vps/vps-piko-g11s-12m
    for over a year to try to grab one. It now returns a 404 instead of saying "out of stock".:

    Now the price with IPv4 has increased by 0.5 euros, and the price with IPv6 only remains the same as before.

    can buy now:

    https://www.netcup.com/en/server/vps/vps-pico-g11s-iv-12m-nue?ref=325620 (has aff)

    that's not bad at all, usually when i see hype about netcup sales i wonder why.

    Thanked by 1DejavuMoe
  • https://www.netcup.com/en/deals
    Lower deals announced.

    Thanked by 2DejavuMoe Gatto
  • skygmskygm Member

    When will there be an event?

This discussion has been closed.