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Velox media under new management

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  • I'm afraid that the mods/admins of LET don't have the resources to investigate the case

    can mods/admins find out from which IP address of TomHarper, Lewis, Eric Velox Media logged in? Even dynamic IP login from same region can give some clue.

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  • @JasonM said:

    I'm afraid that the mods/admins of LET don't have the resources to investigate the case

    can mods/admins find out from which IP address of TomHarper, Lewis, Eric Velox Media logged in? Even dynamic IP login from same region can give some clue.

    I asked this ages ago when the alleged law guy posted on the VeloxMedia account.

    Never got an answer.

  • @rpqu said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @angstrom said:
    I understand that people were and still are frustrated by @itsTomHarper 's silence, but if he's telling the truth (as I think that he is), then he didn't break any forum rule that would justify a ban (unlike @VeloxMedia )

    In a way, @itsTomHarper has paid a price for his silence because he's caused damage to his reputation here and he's effectively lost his forum friends as a result. (As I recall, he was once quite popular here)

    I'm afraid that the mods/admins of LET don't have the resources to investigate the case of @itsTomHarper -- his precise actions and the timeline -- further, so unless some new (revealing) piece of evidence comes to light, we (= the mods/admins of LET) are inclined to drop the case of @itsTomHarper and to move on (even if this conclusion won't please everyone)

    Such a shame... Like I said... Why not distance himself from Velox? Even if not true, it'd have saved his reputation.

    Coz he don't have the courage to speak on this forum.
    Another example and for mild reason @hennaboy. Roughly 2 weeks since his last post, last seen 29 Jan 22.34 GMT

    It's called work I have a lot on. But you all keep fishing

    Btw

    All my servers 100% uptime

    It's a scam Jim just not as you know it

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • @hennaboy said: All my servers 100% uptime

    Same with mine, but that doesn't mean that what happened was OK just because it hasn't yet affected us.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • TeneTTeneT Member

    @angstrom said: I worked for VeloxMedia briefly as technical support and a sales assistant on a part-time basis.

    To admin:

    The fact is Veloxmedia was selling massive super cheap plans with annually, biennially, or triennially long term payments. Either the administrator or only an assistant of Veloxmedia should have already got an idea that these annually / biennially / triennially are not business sustainable. They DEFINITELY knew that would cause a loss in the coming three years if those plans were provided just as expected. The exit scam was already planned before. Sell annually / biennially / triennially plans, and then take the money and vanish after a month.

    They should be innocent only if the server price is reasonable and the quantity of super cheap special plans are limited to a small number as a promotion. That why both the big boss and employees of a scam group are guilty and should be arrested legally.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • @TeneT said:

    @angstrom said: I worked for VeloxMedia briefly as technical support and a sales assistant on a part-time basis.

    To admin:

    The fact is Veloxmedia was selling massive super cheap plans with annually, biennially, or triennially long term payments. Either the administrator or only an assistant of Veloxmedia should have already got an idea that these annually / biennially / triennially are not business sustainable. They DEFINITELY knew that would cause a loss in the coming three years if those plans were provided just as expected. The exit scam was already planned before. Sell annually / biennially / triennially plans, and then take the money and vanish after a month.

    They should be innocent only if the server price is reasonable and the quantity of super cheap special plans are limited to a small number as a promotion. That why both the big boss and employees of a scam group are guilty and should be arrested legally.

    In fairness, selling unsustainable deals can make business sense. You run at a small loss temporarily in order to gain goodwill and benefit from the extra SEO that the hype causes. Unfortunately, that behavior is also indistinguishable from exit scamming.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • rpqurpqu Member
    edited January 30

    @hennaboy said:

    @rpqu said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @angstrom said:
    I understand that people were and still are frustrated by @itsTomHarper 's silence, but if he's telling the truth (as I think that he is), then he didn't break any forum rule that would justify a ban (unlike @VeloxMedia )

    In a way, @itsTomHarper has paid a price for his silence because he's caused damage to his reputation here and he's effectively lost his forum friends as a result. (As I recall, he was once quite popular here)

    I'm afraid that the mods/admins of LET don't have the resources to investigate the case of @itsTomHarper -- his precise actions and the timeline -- further, so unless some new (revealing) piece of evidence comes to light, we (= the mods/admins of LET) are inclined to drop the case of @itsTomHarper and to move on (even if this conclusion won't please everyone)

    Such a shame... Like I said... Why not distance himself from Velox? Even if not true, it'd have saved his reputation.

    Coz he don't have the courage to speak on this forum.
    Another example and for mild reason @hennaboy. Roughly 2 weeks since his last post, last seen 29 Jan 22.34 GMT

    It's called work I have a lot on. But you all keep fishing

    It doesn't look that way when your $ last is updated on almost everyday.

    It's a scam Jim just not as you know it

    Let me repeat:

    • If Lewis did transfer the liabilities to Eric. Yet, Eric doesn't recognize it and demand money for the remaining term. That means Eric double dipped, thus a scam.
    • If Lewis didn't transfer the liabilities to Eric, but didn't offer a refund, that means Lewis commit a scam.

    Either way, customer are scammed by one of / all the mentioned character.

    Thanked by 1ralf
  • TeneTTeneT Member
    edited January 30

    According to a post of FamilyMenberCloud (BitsflowCloud) at https://www.nodeseek.com/post-556364-1

    He indicated that "Nobody knows Lewis better than me!" because he had business with Veloxmedia. (7. In NS, Nobody knows Lewis better than me!)

    (That "My brother" is a false machine translation and only means Lewis here.)

    1. My brother smoothly transferred my US-FRM host machine directly to the upstream supplier without any problems, and he was very proactive. From now on, I'll contact the upstream supplier directly (which is why I received network enhancements).

    So FamilyMenberCloud (BitsflowCloud) purchased the hosting bare metal server (which hosts the US Fremont plans he is selling now) from Veloxmedia before and now it is transferred directly to SystemInPlace.

    1. My brother is also troubled recently because he stopped participating in pricing after the UK and Netherlands (he said their UK nodes are almost at full memory capacity; selling a 1TB machine for that price is amazing).

    If No.4 is true, it means that Lewis no longer involved in setting sales plans and prices of products after Veloxmedia's UK and Netherlands VPS plans began to sell. So who was there setting the super cheap annually / biennially / triennially plans? Maybe, just maybe that person is itsTomHarper.

    (I still have no idea why this was simply handed over to others, who is just a sale assistant and not responsible for the business. Maybe Lewis was busy with his nurse job.)

    If that is true, itsTomHarper planed to sell those non-sustainable massive super cheap plans with annually, biennially, or triennially long term payments and then take his 10% / 25% / 45% away, disregarding the future operation of Veloxmedia.

    @angstrom said: Shortly after the Black Friday period, I had already planned to step away due to constraints with my primary job, and I did so well before the ownership change.

    10% / 25% / 45% is based on the post of rqqu:

    @rpqu said: Sales Rep's Needed

    We are looking for Sales rep's in the game market area who are able to get sales. You will earn 10% of the sale you successfully send our way and the more sales you get the bigger the cut 10%, 25%, 45%.

  • x0x0xx0x0x Member

    :sleepy:

  • @forest said:

    @TeneT said:

    The fact is Veloxmedia was selling massive super cheap plans with annually, biennially, or triennially long term payments. Either the administrator or only an assistant of Veloxmedia should have already got an idea that these annually / biennially / triennially are not business sustainable. They DEFINITELY knew that would cause a loss in the coming three years if those plans were provided just as expected.

    In fairness, selling unsustainable deals can make business sense. You run at a small loss temporarily in order to gain goodwill and benefit from the extra SEO that the hype causes. Unfortunately, that behavior is also indistinguishable from exit scamming.

    True; I mean if you have a descent running company that is breaking even but has quite some capacity left, it's tempting to "fill it up" with deals that look unsustainable but expenses basically have already been paid for by the rest of the customers so are "near 0" for those new deals.

    It's tricky though; if all "normal" customers leave you'll have a big issue, so it wouldn't be sensible to do. However, never underestimate a sales-driven person seeing a short-term profit...

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • rpqurpqu Member
    edited January 30

    @TeneT said:
    According to a post of FamilyMenberCloud (BitsflowCloud) at https://www.nodeseek.com/post-556364-1

    @angstrom said: Shortly after the Black Friday period, I had already planned to step away due to constraints with my primary job, and I did so well before the ownership change.

    10% / 25% / 45% is based on the post of rqqu:

    @rpqu said: Sales Rep's Needed

    We are looking for Sales rep's in the game market area who are able to get sales. You will earn 10% of the sale you successfully send our way and the more sales you get the bigger the cut 10%, 25%, 45%.

    Disclaimer: My post refer to his previous operation (auzzhosting.com) (2008-2011). About a year after making a thread for sales rep hiring, the company went dissolved.

    Edit:
    Update wording to not confuse delinquent company with the member of this site

  • @rpqu said:
    Disclaimer: My post refer to his previous operation (auzzhosting.com) (2008-2011). About a year after making a thread for sales rep hiring, the company went default.

    I have no affiliation with that company.

    Thanked by 2ralf Saragoldfarb
  • What's the tldr at this point? Im not touching all 162 pages

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • rpqurpqu Member
    edited January 30

    @Fubukibox said:
    What's the tldr at this point? Im not touching all 162 pages

    What do you want to know? About Lewis or Eric?

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • x0x0xx0x0x Member

    @Fubukibox said:
    What's the tldr at this point? Im not touching all 162 pages

    Nothing noteworthy.

  • Situation with @itsTomHarper is not good ofc. He was very active helping this scam and now suddenly he is innocent, he did not know etc "I am not me, the horse is not mine". He does not even have balls to make a statement and only responded to the admin but gave permission to publish his response, true gentleman. Well, the guy just sent his reputation to /dev/null, which is fine...he will probably get a new account on LET and start again.

    On the other hand, I understand that nobody is going to investigate him or Velox further, this is not police. I see it as a funny but unpleasant story, which may happen, especially with LET $7/y culture.

    Oh, Eric, you forgot to shutdown my servers, they are still running and I am not paying the invoices :lol: shutdown immediately!

    Thanked by 2tentor Saragoldfarb
  • ralfralf Member

    @JohnFilch123 said:
    I see it as a funny but unpleasant story, which may happen, especially with LET $7/y culture.

    Yeah, on a $7/y (or for me, anything below $1/m really) it's not worth getting upset if it doesn't work out.

    I feel sorry for the guys that put down a lot on 3 year deals (I think the "cheap" one that "Eric" quoted was $80, so there's probably many who paid more) and who only got 2 months service.

  • zedzed Member

    @forest said:

    @TeneT said:

    @angstrom said: I worked for VeloxMedia briefly as technical support and a sales assistant on a part-time basis.

    To admin:

    The fact is Veloxmedia was selling massive super cheap plans with annually, biennially, or triennially long term payments. Either the administrator or only an assistant of Veloxmedia should have already got an idea that these annually / biennially / triennially are not business sustainable. They DEFINITELY knew that would cause a loss in the coming three years if those plans were provided just as expected. The exit scam was already planned before. Sell annually / biennially / triennially plans, and then take the money and vanish after a month.

    They should be innocent only if the server price is reasonable and the quantity of super cheap special plans are limited to a small number as a promotion. That why both the big boss and employees of a scam group are guilty and should be arrested legally.

    In fairness, selling unsustainable deals can make business sense. You run at a small loss temporarily in order to gain goodwill and benefit from the extra SEO that the hype causes. Unfortunately, that behavior is also indistinguishable from exit scamming.

    Also it's on you (me, us) to look at a deal and realize it's a bad risk. You may decide $7 is worth it of course, but you need to be able to do that risk assessment.

    This is a life skill, not an LET skill!

    Thanked by 2ralf Saragoldfarb
  • @rpqu said:

    @hennaboy said:

    @rpqu said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @angstrom said:
    I understand that people were and still are frustrated by @itsTomHarper 's silence, but if he's telling the truth (as I think that he is), then he didn't break any forum rule that would justify a ban (unlike @VeloxMedia )

    In a way, @itsTomHarper has paid a price for his silence because he's caused damage to his reputation here and he's effectively lost his forum friends as a result. (As I recall, he was once quite popular here)

    I'm afraid that the mods/admins of LET don't have the resources to investigate the case of @itsTomHarper -- his precise actions and the timeline -- further, so unless some new (revealing) piece of evidence comes to light, we (= the mods/admins of LET) are inclined to drop the case of @itsTomHarper and to move on (even if this conclusion won't please everyone)

    Such a shame... Like I said... Why not distance himself from Velox? Even if not true, it'd have saved his reputation.

    Coz he don't have the courage to speak on this forum.
    Another example and for mild reason @hennaboy. Roughly 2 weeks since his last post, last seen 29 Jan 22.34 GMT

    It's called work I have a lot on. But you all keep fishing

    It doesn't look that way when your $ last is updated on almost everyday.

    It's a scam Jim just not as you know it

    Let me repeat:

    • If Lewis did transfer the liabilities to Eric. Yet, Eric doesn't recognize it and demand money for the remaining term. That means Eric double dipped, thus a scam.
    • If Lewis didn't transfer the liabilities to Eric, but didn't offer a refund, that means Lewis commit a scam.

    Either way, customer are scammed by one of / all the mentioned character.

    Ive been coming to find a new S3 seen as Tebi is shutting down.

    You know there is more to LET than this shitshow right?

    But continue adding between the lines.

  • If only scamming would stop here. Something tells me more people will be veloxed in the future, by other scammers seeing this work.

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @default said:
    If only scamming would stop here. Something tells me more people will be veloxed in the future, by other scammers seeing this work.

    As long as there's no rules limiting the length of term for new hosts and LET users kept taking $7/y without regards > @hennaboy said:

    @rpqu said:

    @hennaboy said:

    @rpqu said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @angstrom said:
    I understand that people were and still are frustrated by @itsTomHarper 's silence, but if he's telling the truth (as I think that he is), then he didn't break any forum rule that would justify a ban (unlike @VeloxMedia )

    In a way, @itsTomHarper has paid a price for his silence because he's caused damage to his reputation here and he's effectively lost his forum friends as a result. (As I recall, he was once quite popular here)

    I'm afraid that the mods/admins of LET don't have the resources to investigate the case of @itsTomHarper -- his precise actions and the timeline -- further, so unless some new (revealing) piece of evidence comes to light, we (= the mods/admins of LET) are inclined to drop the case of @itsTomHarper and to move on (even if this conclusion won't please everyone)

    Such a shame... Like I said... Why not distance himself from Velox? Even if not true, it'd have saved his reputation.

    Coz he don't have the courage to speak on this forum.
    Another example and for mild reason @hennaboy. Roughly 2 weeks since his last post, last seen 29 Jan 22.34 GMT

    It's called work I have a lot on. But you all keep fishing

    It doesn't look that way when your $ last is updated on almost everyday.

    It's a scam Jim just not as you know it

    Let me repeat:

    • If Lewis did transfer the liabilities to Eric. Yet, Eric doesn't recognize it and demand money for the remaining term. That means Eric double dipped, thus a scam.
    • If Lewis didn't transfer the liabilities to Eric, but didn't offer a refund, that means Lewis commit a scam.

    Either way, customer are scammed by one of / all the mentioned character.

    Ive been coming to find a new S3 seen as Tebi is shutting down.

    You know there is more to LET than this shitshow right?

    Tebi shutdown is like a week ago. I don't know whether @systemfreaks still offer 50% off so $3 6/tb

  • @rpqu said:

    @default said:
    If only scamming would stop here. Something tells me more people will be veloxed in the future, by other scammers seeing this work.

    As long as there's no rules limiting the length of term for new hosts and LET users kept taking $7/y without regards > @hennaboy said:

    @rpqu said:

    @hennaboy said:

    @rpqu said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @angstrom said:
    I understand that people were and still are frustrated by @itsTomHarper 's silence, but if he's telling the truth (as I think that he is), then he didn't break any forum rule that would justify a ban (unlike @VeloxMedia )

    In a way, @itsTomHarper has paid a price for his silence because he's caused damage to his reputation here and he's effectively lost his forum friends as a result. (As I recall, he was once quite popular here)

    I'm afraid that the mods/admins of LET don't have the resources to investigate the case of @itsTomHarper -- his precise actions and the timeline -- further, so unless some new (revealing) piece of evidence comes to light, we (= the mods/admins of LET) are inclined to drop the case of @itsTomHarper and to move on (even if this conclusion won't please everyone)

    Such a shame... Like I said... Why not distance himself from Velox? Even if not true, it'd have saved his reputation.

    Coz he don't have the courage to speak on this forum.
    Another example and for mild reason @hennaboy. Roughly 2 weeks since his last post, last seen 29 Jan 22.34 GMT

    It's called work I have a lot on. But you all keep fishing

    It doesn't look that way when your $ last is updated on almost everyday.

    It's a scam Jim just not as you know it

    Let me repeat:

    • If Lewis did transfer the liabilities to Eric. Yet, Eric doesn't recognize it and demand money for the remaining term. That means Eric double dipped, thus a scam.
    • If Lewis didn't transfer the liabilities to Eric, but didn't offer a refund, that means Lewis commit a scam.

    Either way, customer are scammed by one of / all the mentioned character.

    Ive been coming to find a new S3 seen as Tebi is shutting down.

    You know there is more to LET than this shitshow right?

    Tebi shutdown is like a week ago. I don't know whether @systemfreaks still offer 50% off so $3 6/tb

    Tebi Geo-Distributed object storage project will be shut down on March 31, 2026

  • @zed said:

    @forest said:

    @TeneT said:

    @angstrom said: I worked for VeloxMedia briefly as technical support and a sales assistant on a part-time basis.

    To admin:

    The fact is Veloxmedia was selling massive super cheap plans with annually, biennially, or triennially long term payments. Either the administrator or only an assistant of Veloxmedia should have already got an idea that these annually / biennially / triennially are not business sustainable. They DEFINITELY knew that would cause a loss in the coming three years if those plans were provided just as expected. The exit scam was already planned before. Sell annually / biennially / triennially plans, and then take the money and vanish after a month.

    They should be innocent only if the server price is reasonable and the quantity of super cheap special plans are limited to a small number as a promotion. That why both the big boss and employees of a scam group are guilty and should be arrested legally.

    In fairness, selling unsustainable deals can make business sense. You run at a small loss temporarily in order to gain goodwill and benefit from the extra SEO that the hype causes. Unfortunately, that behavior is also indistinguishable from exit scamming.

    Also it's on you (me, us) to look at a deal and realize it's a bad risk. You may decide $7 is worth it of course, but you need to be able to do that risk assessment.

    This is a life skill, not an LET skill!

    The deal I bought was not one of the extremely unsustainable ones. It was definitely a good deal, but it was a relatively low-end with only 2 vCPUs and 2 GB RAM system and without much storage.

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @hennaboy said:

    @rpqu said:

    @default said:
    If only scamming would stop here. Something tells me more people will be veloxed in the future, by other scammers seeing this work.

    As long as there's no rules limiting the length of term for new hosts and LET users kept taking $7/y without regards > @hennaboy said:

    @rpqu said:

    @hennaboy said:

    @rpqu said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @angstrom said:
    I understand that people were and still are frustrated by @itsTomHarper 's silence, but if he's telling the truth (as I think that he is), then he didn't break any forum rule that would justify a ban (unlike @VeloxMedia )

    In a way, @itsTomHarper has paid a price for his silence because he's caused damage to his reputation here and he's effectively lost his forum friends as a result. (As I recall, he was once quite popular here)

    I'm afraid that the mods/admins of LET don't have the resources to investigate the case of @itsTomHarper -- his precise actions and the timeline -- further, so unless some new (revealing) piece of evidence comes to light, we (= the mods/admins of LET) are inclined to drop the case of @itsTomHarper and to move on (even if this conclusion won't please everyone)

    Such a shame... Like I said... Why not distance himself from Velox? Even if not true, it'd have saved his reputation.

    Coz he don't have the courage to speak on this forum.
    Another example and for mild reason @hennaboy. Roughly 2 weeks since his last post, last seen 29 Jan 22.34 GMT

    It's called work I have a lot on. But you all keep fishing

    It doesn't look that way when your $ last is updated on almost everyday.

    It's a scam Jim just not as you know it

    Let me repeat:

    • If Lewis did transfer the liabilities to Eric. Yet, Eric doesn't recognize it and demand money for the remaining term. That means Eric double dipped, thus a scam.
    • If Lewis didn't transfer the liabilities to Eric, but didn't offer a refund, that means Lewis commit a scam.

    Either way, customer are scammed by one of / all the mentioned character.

    Ive been coming to find a new S3 seen as Tebi is shutting down.

    You know there is more to LET than this shitshow right?

    Tebi shutdown is like a week ago. I don't know whether @systemfreaks still offer 50% off so $3 6/tb

    Tebi Geo-Distributed object storage project will be shut down on March 31, 2026

    Sorry, I mean the notice/news

  • systemfreakssystemfreaks Member, Patron Provider

    @rpqu said:

    @default said:
    If only scamming would stop here. Something tells me more people will be veloxed in the future, by other scammers seeing this work.

    As long as there's no rules limiting the length of term for new hosts and LET users kept taking $7/y without regards > @hennaboy said:

    @rpqu said:

    @hennaboy said:

    @rpqu said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @angstrom said:
    I understand that people were and still are frustrated by @itsTomHarper 's silence, but if he's telling the truth (as I think that he is), then he didn't break any forum rule that would justify a ban (unlike @VeloxMedia )

    In a way, @itsTomHarper has paid a price for his silence because he's caused damage to his reputation here and he's effectively lost his forum friends as a result. (As I recall, he was once quite popular here)

    I'm afraid that the mods/admins of LET don't have the resources to investigate the case of @itsTomHarper -- his precise actions and the timeline -- further, so unless some new (revealing) piece of evidence comes to light, we (= the mods/admins of LET) are inclined to drop the case of @itsTomHarper and to move on (even if this conclusion won't please everyone)

    Such a shame... Like I said... Why not distance himself from Velox? Even if not true, it'd have saved his reputation.

    Coz he don't have the courage to speak on this forum.
    Another example and for mild reason @hennaboy. Roughly 2 weeks since his last post, last seen 29 Jan 22.34 GMT

    It's called work I have a lot on. But you all keep fishing

    It doesn't look that way when your $ last is updated on almost everyday.

    It's a scam Jim just not as you know it

    Let me repeat:

    • If Lewis did transfer the liabilities to Eric. Yet, Eric doesn't recognize it and demand money for the remaining term. That means Eric double dipped, thus a scam.
    • If Lewis didn't transfer the liabilities to Eric, but didn't offer a refund, that means Lewis commit a scam.

    Either way, customer are scammed by one of / all the mentioned character.

    Ive been coming to find a new S3 seen as Tebi is shutting down.

    You know there is more to LET than this shitshow right?

    Tebi shutdown is like a week ago. I don't know whether @systemfreaks still offer 50% off so $3 6/tb

    We offer $4/TB currently

    Thanked by 1hennaboy
  • zedzed Member

    @forest said:

    @zed said:

    @forest said:

    @TeneT said:

    @angstrom said: I worked for VeloxMedia briefly as technical support and a sales assistant on a part-time basis.

    To admin:

    The fact is Veloxmedia was selling massive super cheap plans with annually, biennially, or triennially long term payments. Either the administrator or only an assistant of Veloxmedia should have already got an idea that these annually / biennially / triennially are not business sustainable. They DEFINITELY knew that would cause a loss in the coming three years if those plans were provided just as expected. The exit scam was already planned before. Sell annually / biennially / triennially plans, and then take the money and vanish after a month.

    They should be innocent only if the server price is reasonable and the quantity of super cheap special plans are limited to a small number as a promotion. That why both the big boss and employees of a scam group are guilty and should be arrested legally.

    In fairness, selling unsustainable deals can make business sense. You run at a small loss temporarily in order to gain goodwill and benefit from the extra SEO that the hype causes. Unfortunately, that behavior is also indistinguishable from exit scamming.

    Also it's on you (me, us) to look at a deal and realize it's a bad risk. You may decide $7 is worth it of course, but you need to be able to do that risk assessment.

    This is a life skill, not an LET skill!

    The deal I bought was not one of the extremely unsustainable ones. It was definitely a good deal, but it was a relatively low-end with only 2 vCPUs and 2 GB RAM system and without much storage.

    Yea just speaking generally. We absolutely should crucify scam hosts but we still need to recognize unsustainable deals and make a conscious choice about spending that cup of coffee.

    I passed on Velox because it seemed obvious but if they'd had locations I cared about I might have pissed away the 7 bucks too even knowing it likely wouldn't last.

  • forestforest Member
    edited January 31

    @zed said:

    @forest said:

    @zed said:

    @forest said:

    @TeneT said:

    @angstrom said: I worked for VeloxMedia briefly as technical support and a sales assistant on a part-time basis.

    To admin:

    The fact is Veloxmedia was selling massive super cheap plans with annually, biennially, or triennially long term payments. Either the administrator or only an assistant of Veloxmedia should have already got an idea that these annually / biennially / triennially are not business sustainable. They DEFINITELY knew that would cause a loss in the coming three years if those plans were provided just as expected. The exit scam was already planned before. Sell annually / biennially / triennially plans, and then take the money and vanish after a month.

    They should be innocent only if the server price is reasonable and the quantity of super cheap special plans are limited to a small number as a promotion. That why both the big boss and employees of a scam group are guilty and should be arrested legally.

    In fairness, selling unsustainable deals can make business sense. You run at a small loss temporarily in order to gain goodwill and benefit from the extra SEO that the hype causes. Unfortunately, that behavior is also indistinguishable from exit scamming.

    Also it's on you (me, us) to look at a deal and realize it's a bad risk. You may decide $7 is worth it of course, but you need to be able to do that risk assessment.

    This is a life skill, not an LET skill!

    The deal I bought was not one of the extremely unsustainable ones. It was definitely a good deal, but it was a relatively low-end with only 2 vCPUs and 2 GB RAM system and without much storage.

    Yea just speaking generally. We absolutely should crucify scam hosts but we still need to recognize unsustainable deals and make a conscious choice about spending that cup of coffee.

    I passed on Velox because it seemed obvious but if they'd had locations I cared about I might have pissed away the 7 bucks too even knowing it likely wouldn't last.

    Oh, I agree. But I got Velox before I joined LET. I wasn't even aware they had those crazy 32 GB deals.

    (But yes, I should have done more research.)

  • My 30gb server (a triple ram deal) does not mention LET in the name, and I haven't gotten any shutdown notices.

    However, Velox suddenly blocked port 25 and broke my addy.io email forwarding service I had set up for myself. It took me a while to figure out why my email aliases weren't being forwarded to my email anymore until I tested port 25 specifically and found I couldn't connect to any mail servers from my velox server.

    I opened a ticket, and the response was that port 25 is now restricted for most plans, and you have to pay $10/month to be able to use that.

    Just another anecdotal piece of evidence from an unhappy not-sure-if-I-qualify-as-a customer.

  • @schrauger said:
    My 30gb server (a triple ram deal) does not mention LET in the name, and I haven't gotten any shutdown notices.

    However, Velox suddenly blocked port 25 and broke my addy.io email forwarding service I had set up for myself. It took me a while to figure out why my email aliases weren't being forwarded to my email anymore until I tested port 25 specifically and found I couldn't connect to any mail servers from my velox server.

    I opened a ticket, and the response was that port 25 is now restricted for most plans, and you have to pay $10/month to be able to use that.

    Just another anecdotal piece of evidence from an unhappy not-sure-if-I-qualify-as-a customer.

    For what duration have you already paid for? 1 year?

  • @schrauger said:
    My 30gb server (a triple ram deal) does not mention LET in the name, and I haven't gotten any shutdown notices.

    However, Velox suddenly blocked port 25 and broke my addy.io email forwarding service I had set up for myself. It took me a while to figure out why my email aliases weren't being forwarded to my email anymore until I tested port 25 specifically and found I couldn't connect to any mail servers from my velox server.

    I opened a ticket, and the response was that port 25 is now restricted for most plans, and you have to pay $10/month to be able to use that.

    Just another anecdotal piece of evidence from an unhappy not-sure-if-I-qualify-as-a customer.

    In every other situation I'd say: mention to the provider that they can't change conditions single sided during a contract period. In this case: we already knew he behaves like an *ss and makes up his own rules. Next thing could be that IPv4 addresses are withdrawn without notice and you can't even complain.

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