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Velox media under new management

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  • @Frozecone said:

    @Calypso said:

    @Frozecone said:
    Alright we got a new update here and I need opinions.

    I did my chargebacks after seeing my account was going to be shut down. However, we are all under the impression the PayPal and Stripe gateways were under Lewis’s information. How did I just get a message from Velox saying my service is suspended due to a PayPal case, if Eric never had access to the PayPal and it was still in Lewis’s control?

    Apparantly (mentioned somewhere by him in this thread) "Eric" has the ability to view disputed payments in PayPal. He stated that he wasn't able to take control of it, but he can see the status as disputed and was writing a script to terminate disputed services. And then some crazy bla-bla (in my opinion) about it being illegal to keep on using a service you had disputed and received money back from.

    So I think that's going on with you: you disputed, he noticed it, he terminated. Even if your dispute is not granted, ofcourse.

    Only one of my servers was suspended, and it was the one with the 30gb/RAM for 40/yr. The rest of mine are still active.

    Don't say it out too loud...

    @Calypso does this touch on what you were talking about with us not knowing if Eric actually has access to the payment accounts (PayPal/Stripe)? I thought I remembered him complaining about the chargebacks because he wouldn’t know if someone did one and they’d be getting free services?

    Yes, it touches a bit, but not as proof as such. It may be that he's able - somehow - to see a status but not have control. However, if someone denies a dispute, someone has to have control of that account - either if it's "Lewis" or "Eric'. In both cases that'd be very interesting...

    Another possibility is that he doesn’t have a plan for a new DC in California, and is just closing those instead of moving people. I say that cause my $7 CA server stopped working a few days ago, and now this one is down too. But none of the others are touched despite disputes made for all of them.

    This is my assumption that I was alluding to when I asked about clients who only have a server in Poland. I believe that they added on the Poland location much later than California and others, so it stands to reason that the contract with that upstream provider will end later than the others.

  • @ralf said:

    @barbarza said:

    @Maelstrom36 said:

    @forest said:

    @Maelstrom36 said:
    I haven't received any email yet. If competence was a sport, he'd be disqualified fast for lack of effort.

    He's doing it in batches of 100 over the next week or so because "there's no rush". I suspect he just wants to punish people who bought LET deals by making them wait. I think this whole debacle really shook him up.

    He's gonna need a new name, brand, logo, and maybe a new career.

    That's why is all doesn't make sense - Why take over a brand, trash the brand, and then intend to continue to operate under it? My money is on it all being 'Lewis', just impersonating different characters. Too much of what VeloxMedia posted is absolute BS. 'Lewis' just registered a US company from the UK.

    Yeah, that is quite likely, but given that "Eric" is threatening litigation, at some point there's a good chance of having to show up in court as a real person. That's a hell of a strong play for a bluff.

    Also, it doesn't make any sense for Lewis to encourage people to chargeback rather than voluntarily offering refunds. He's looking at losing $15 per transaction in dispute fees.

    Then again, running a business at a 25% loss for 4 years as a sole-trader also doesn't make any sense either.

    But supporting your argument, it is very strange that the "Lewis" / the old owner of Veloxmedia still hasn't piped up since the 23rd, especially as @itsTomHarper has been reading the forum. I'm surprised neither want to attempt to clear their name.

    Bullies bully but never show up to the actual fight.

    Thanked by 2crystal Saragoldfarb
  • @Calypso said:

    @ralf said:

    It'd be interesting to know if that was a different product in the background, or the same one and these guys are going to getting suddenly terminated as well.

    Let me put my prediction in... "Eric" will delete all plans which have "LET" in their name unless people pay him. Because he's frustrated that people here fight back and are not falling for unclear statements. His plan is already to have all the remaining people on other plans to also pay him a monthly fee to keep on using the service (they've already paid for). He just wants to scare of "LET"ters a bit more, for his own ego. But he sees here that there are way too many LET enthousiasts who didn't get a first "termination" mail just goes on with threathening everyone coming from Lewis.

    In the end only a few will pay for services, he will be calling out thousands of users on Discord, and his impersonation of Trump keeps on going while he increases the monthly fee every couple of months because "everything is so expensive and we don't have the scale or good name all due to the discissions on LET". Boohoo.

    He will Deadpool even those whose do pay up, it's milking as much as he can get before he completely pulls the plug on the multi-phase exit plan. He didn't manage to get the thousands he hoped when he was trying to extort during the DDoS protection phase so now he's settling for peanuts.

  • @Calypso said:

    @ralf said:
    Contact your bank proactively, tell them you think your card details have been compromised and ask for a new card. Unless you do this very regularly, no bank will take issue with this, as they are responsible for any losses if they don't.

    Would be my advice too until a couple of years ago. Then the cardcompany pro-actively blocked my card (because they thought they've seen a suspicious transaction), and I had to pay to get a new card...

    Sounds like you need a new bank. Many banks issue a practically infinite number of cards for free. A good credit union does charge you if you lose your physical card, but only because those cards do cost money to re-issue and they don't want to pass that cost on to their shareholders in the form of hidden fees. If your card is compromised or physically destroyed, they'll always replace it for free.

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • I filed a dispute through PayPal's resolution center. I wrote that the company changed hands within a month of my order and provided a couple links to this thread, along with a brief description of their alarming behavior and legal threats they sent to the moderators. The dispute was closed in my favor immediately and the money was added to my PayPal Balance.

    At this point, I simply cannot trust that the server will actually be around during the full 3 years that I paid for in advance. I was already kind of suspicious about that price point and contract term, so I considered it a gamble anyway, but I'm certainly not going to allow my money to be stolen if they're going to pull the rug within the dispute window. I highly recommend anyone else who's on the fence about it go ahead and file the chargeback, especially if you used PayPal or Stripe Link.

  • @i12h said:
    A friend of mine who works in finance in New York suggested I frame my appeal around the concept of “Anticipatory Breach of Contract.” He told me to build out all the details under that theme—screenshots, links, and even specific posts VeloxMedia made on the LET forum.

    Yes, well done. This legal concept was actually posted earlier in the thread several times, but was overwhelmed by noise.

    Once you realize it is an anticipatory repudiation, you no longer doubt yourself and no longer believe in the scammer.

    Then, getting your chargeback is a whole different thing . . . your complaint must fit the correct checkbox for you to win. Simplify the complexity of the actual situation, as the payment processor and the scammer do. Complex factual scenarios or voluminous documentation from the victim generally lose in these situations.

    Think along these lines:

    "A scammer took over an abandoned business I patronized and pre-paid, using a similar company name that he created just a few days ago in another country, and the scammer said publicly we are not his customers. Please chargeback the original guy who you gave my money to."

    Thanked by 3tentor ralf i12h
  • @alexanderras said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Got info on Lewis covered, what's left is the connection to the shady us shell.

    Justin Morgan looks real. He’s on the voting register, he’s got socials that date back years. His dad Gerald even had a legal spat in 2017. Doubt this is faked - too elaborate for a guy like Lewis.

    Lewis seems to just find existing people and impersonate them or relations to them...

    Thanked by 2network Saragoldfarb
  • Well if you really need things to be clear, just open a ticket asking for a refund and he'll immediately terminate the service? At least he was doing that before he was banned from here.

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • @crystal said:
    Sounds like you need a new bank. Many banks issue a practically infinite number of cards for free. A good credit union does charge you if you lose your physical card, but only because those cards do cost money to re-issue and they don't want to pass that cost on to their shareholders in the form of hidden fees. If your card is compromised or physically destroyed, they'll always replace it for free.

    Nope not in this country. But that doesn't matter for this moment. If something strange happens, chargeback is what it will be.

  • forestforest Member
    edited January 13

    @Calypso said:

    @jsg said:
    No matter how often idiots repeat it and insinuate it, I did not defend him/them, I merely didn't join your witch hunt.

    A witch hunt is based on belief, not on facts. Remember that, you're gonna need that.

    I don't think that's technically true, unless you are referring to the non-idiomatic meaning. A witch hunt is just an exceptionally excessive campaign where a group attempts to persecute or expose another person. It can be based on facts and still be a witch hunt if the reaction is excessive.

    I do not believe what transpired here counts as a witch hunt, however. If we started persecuting other providers, looking for any hint that they might be giving unsustainable deals and then treating them like we treated Eric simply for, say, being in the UK and offering triennial plans, then it would be a witch hunt.

  • @ralf said:

    @Calypso said:
    I mean, there were idiots that did a DDoS on Christmas day also

    Well, they told us there was a DDoS. We don't actually know if that was true or not, maybe they were even deliberately simulating packet loss themselves.

    It was definitely true. My system slowed to a crawl and showed about 10 Mbps ingress that I couldn't account for, and a quick look with tcpdump revealed that there was a flood from spoofed IPs to UDP/53 on my IP, all with the same source port.

    Does anyone know if VeloxMedia's upstreams implemented BCP 38?

  • @barbarza said:

    @alexanderras said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Got info on Lewis covered, what's left is the connection to the shady us shell.

    Justin Morgan looks real. He’s on the voting register, he’s got socials that date back years. His dad Gerald even had a legal spat in 2017. Doubt this is faked - too elaborate for a guy like Lewis.

    Lewis seems to just find existing people and impersonate them or relations to them...

    I absolutely believe that he’s impersonating Tom and perhaps Eric. I’m less convinced that he would be able to create a new entity that is owned by Justin Morgan’s existing entities without Justin Morgan being in on it.

    I still believe Justin Morgan is real and involved in this transaction.

    Thanked by 1Marx
  • @alexanderras said:

    @barbarza said:

    @alexanderras said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Got info on Lewis covered, what's left is the connection to the shady us shell.

    Justin Morgan looks real. He’s on the voting register, he’s got socials that date back years. His dad Gerald even had a legal spat in 2017. Doubt this is faked - too elaborate for a guy like Lewis.

    Lewis seems to just find existing people and impersonate them or relations to them...

    I absolutely believe that he’s impersonating Tom and perhaps Eric. I’m less convinced that he would be able to create a new entity that is owned by Justin Morgan’s existing entities without Justin Morgan being in on it.

    I still believe Justin Morgan is real and involved in this transaction.

    Someone should reach out to him and find out. Send a message on linked in or something.

  • Hmm, I don’t know if someone posted this already, but I received this mail a few hours ago.

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @bluesega said:
    Hmm, I don’t know if someone posted this already, but I received this mail a few hours ago.

    The first batch is 15th Jan. So, it seems you are the 2nd batch.

    Thanked by 1bluesega
  • @bluesega said:
    Hmm, I don’t know if someone posted this already, but I received this mail a few hours ago.

    Horseshit, of course he is the same guy, thank god I requested a refund through PayPal a few weeks back, got my refund instantly. How can this guy be so ignorant to believe that people will use his services even outside the LET community? I believe we should all leave a review in the suggestion box https://www.trustpilot.com/review/veloxmedia.co.uk

  • @steliospavlidis said:

    @bluesega said:
    Hmm, I don’t know if someone posted this already, but I received this mail a few hours ago.

    Horseshit, of course he is the same guy, thank god I requested a refund through PayPal a few weeks back, got my refund instantly. How can this guy be so ignorant to believe that people will use his services even outside the LET community? I believe we should all leave a review in the suggestion box https://www.trustpilot.com/review/veloxmedia.co.uk

    No matter if he is the same guy or not, imo it's against (atleast) EU laws to discontinue without a refund done by him/them

    Thanked by 1whiterider
  • @steliospavlidis said:

    @bluesega said:
    Hmm, I don’t know if someone posted this already, but I received this mail a few hours ago.

    Horseshit, of course he is the same guy, thank god I requested a refund through PayPal a few weeks back, got my refund instantly. How can this guy be so ignorant to believe that people will use his services even outside the LET community? I believe we should all leave a review in the suggestion box https://www.trustpilot.com/review/veloxmedia.co.uk

    @jsg if you don't got the email (so far)

  • CalypsoCalypso Member
    edited January 13

    @gbzret4d said:
    No matter if he is the same guy or not, imo it's against (atleast) EU laws to discontinue without a refund done by him/them

    No, not true (hate to say this). At least here (Netherlands) you can take over a company without it's customers. Technically those customers should then go to the old owner and he should take care of a refund.

    However, things get complicated from there. We don't know the contents of the deal between the old and the new owner - the old owner stated that the "customers were taken care of", the new one denies that he "has these customers". If the customers are part of the deal, the new owner should continue the services. If they are not, he shouldn't.

    However, he did continue the services, the did use the customer data, there was no downtime in the service (for most of us) due to the handover, so basically it's likely that the new owner owns the hardware it runs on. Heck, most of the customers may not even know that there was a take over. Also, he apparantly is looking into the chargeback state and de-activate accounts/services upon that. All signs that the customers could be part of the deal.

    Only now, 3 weeks forward, slowly customers are being informed and asked if they want to have a new contract. Too little, too late, law here states that people should be informed as soon as possible about a company take over in case personal data is involved - and clearly the effort of informing ASAP is not there (stated here by the new owner and proven by e.g. the slow sending out of e-mails with renewed offer). Personal data, that has been obtained in the deal between old and new provider, must be either used for providing a service (i.e. it's a customer of the new provider), have conscent for usage given by the person themselves or be deleted at max 30 days after the take over date.

  • zedzed Member

    the amount of time we've collectively spent arguing the finer points of this absolute fraud is pretty impressive.

  • @steliospavlidis said:

    @bluesega said:
    Hmm, I don’t know if someone posted this already, but I received this mail a few hours ago.

    Horseshit, of course he is the same guy, thank god I requested a refund through PayPal a few weeks back, got my refund instantly. How can this guy be so ignorant to believe that people will use his services even outside the LET community? I believe we should all leave a review in the suggestion box https://www.trustpilot.com/review/veloxmedia.co.uk

    @jsg if you don't got the email (so far) > @zed said:

    the amount of time we've collectively spent arguing the finer points of this absolute fraud is pretty impressive.

    Watch your mouth otherwise Lewic will sue you

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @gbzret4d said:
    @zed said:

    the amount of time we've collectively spent arguing the finer points of this absolute fraud is pretty impressive.

    Watch your mouth otherwise Lewic will sue you

    Suing? Wasn't him calling FBI to eliminate DDoSers? Don't underestimate him.

  • @tentor said:

    @gbzret4d said:
    @zed said:

    the amount of time we've collectively spent arguing the finer points of this absolute fraud is pretty impressive.

    Watch your mouth otherwise Lewic will sue you

    Suing? Wasn't him calling FBI to eliminate DDoSers? Don't underestimate him.

    Don't forget homeland security

    Thanked by 2tentor whiterider
  • @tentor said:

    @gbzret4d said:
    @zed said:

    the amount of time we've collectively spent arguing the finer points of this absolute fraud is pretty impressive.

    Watch your mouth otherwise Lewic will sue you

    Suing? Wasn't him calling FBI to eliminate DDoSers? Don't underestimate him.

    He meant Female Body Inspector not the real FBI

    Thanked by 2tentor gbzret4d
  • rpqurpqu Member

    @gbzret4d said:

    @steliospavlidis said:

    @bluesega said:
    Hmm, I don’t know if someone posted this already, but I received this mail a few hours ago.

    Horseshit, of course he is the same guy, thank god I requested a refund through PayPal a few weeks back, got my refund instantly. How can this guy be so ignorant to believe that people will use his services even outside the LET community? I believe we should all leave a review in the suggestion box https://www.trustpilot.com/review/veloxmedia.co.uk

    @jsg if you don't got the email (so far) > @zed said:

    the amount of time we've collectively spent arguing the finer points of this absolute fraud is pretty impressive.

    Watch your mouth otherwise Lewic will sue you

    Technically, either Lewis or Eric are being fraudulent. Because, both of them assumed the liabilities (existing contract) are not on their hand.

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @gbzret4d said:

    @tentor said:

    @gbzret4d said:
    @zed said:

    the amount of time we've collectively spent arguing the finer points of this absolute fraud is pretty impressive.

    Watch your mouth otherwise Lewic will sue you

    Suing? Wasn't him calling FBI to eliminate DDoSers? Don't underestimate him.

    Don't forget homeland security

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    The scam continues:

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad
    edited January 13

    Thats the server I renewed till '27 then he cancelled it when he went crazy.

    Thanked by 2ralf barbarza
  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    I urge anyone to remove any kind of payment details from their panel asap!

    Thanked by 1dedicados
  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    Also, mjjs spread the word please.

    Thanked by 1forest
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