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Velox media under new management

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  • @x0x0x said:
    @VeloxMedia any flash sale?

    40GB ram for $4

  • Where's @itsTomHarper when you need him

  • ralfralf Member

    @deafcon said:
    I know it was mentioned much earlier, but the currency changed from pounds to dollars shortly after the personality change from Lewis to Eric. My plan is not one of the ultra cheap deals, it's probably something a normal LET provider would offer. It looks like it was about 33% less than I actually paid because it is denominated in dollars now. I'm trying to figure out what angle they were working with that change. Just trying to make the "sale" seem more legit? Trying to work it so they could refund in dollars and no one would notice? Neither of those make a lot of sense, but I can't think of anything better.

    For this one, the quote "never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity" might apply.

    I suspect WHMCS only support single currency and prices are just stored as floats.

    Refunds would be done by the payment processor (if they had any of those details, they claim not) and I'm assuming would default to the full amount unless overridden.

  • @AlteredParadox said:
    Where's @itsTomHarper when you need him

    lol that account was last active like 4 hours ago. so hes still checking it apparently.

    Thanked by 2Saragoldfarb Marx
  • x0x0xx0x0x Member

    @AlteredParadox said:
    Where's @itsTomHarper when you need him

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • @AlteredParadox said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    Where's @itsTomHarper when you need him

    lol that account was last active like 4 hours ago. so hes still checking it apparently.

    I really wonder why he's not commenting...

    Thanked by 1Marx
  • @AlteredParadox said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    Where's @itsTomHarper when you need him

    lol that account was last active like 4 hours ago. so hes still checking it apparently.

    Prob. laughing his ass off. He was a normal LET member as well, tho.

  • @AlteredParadox said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    Where's @itsTomHarper when you need him

    lol that account was last active like 4 hours ago. so hes still checking it apparently.

    VeloxMedia accidentally logged into their alt account

    Thanked by 2Marx barbarza
  • Wait, so it is @jsg

    Or who should it be? Show yourself!

  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @deafcon said:
    I know it was mentioned much earlier, but the currency changed from pounds to dollars shortly after the personality change from Lewis to Eric. My plan is not one of the ultra cheap deals, it's probably something a normal LET provider would offer. It looks like it was about 33% less than I actually paid because it is denominated in dollars now. I'm trying to figure out what angle they were working with that change. Just trying to make the "sale" seem more legit? Trying to work it so they could refund in dollars and no one would notice? Neither of those make a lot of sense, but I can't think of anything better.

    Conversion and location. If from us £ would be no issue... If from uk £ would be no issue. In some locations.... Getting payed in £ might be an issue.... Depending on how legal it is what your doing.

    I guess that's a good theory if we assume they thought they could keep the scam going and get more people to buy.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @deafcon said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @deafcon said:
    I know it was mentioned much earlier, but the currency changed from pounds to dollars shortly after the personality change from Lewis to Eric. My plan is not one of the ultra cheap deals, it's probably something a normal LET provider would offer. It looks like it was about 33% less than I actually paid because it is denominated in dollars now. I'm trying to figure out what angle they were working with that change. Just trying to make the "sale" seem more legit? Trying to work it so they could refund in dollars and no one would notice? Neither of those make a lot of sense, but I can't think of anything better.

    Conversion and location. If from us £ would be no issue... If from uk £ would be no issue. In some locations.... Getting payed in £ might be an issue.... Depending on how legal it is what your doing.

    I guess that's a good theory if we assume they thought they could keep the scam going and get more people to buy.

    Its both, exit scam and trying to get a few extra bucks along the way. Velox will be gone once chargebacks ain't possible anymore.

    The time to chargeback really is now!

    Thanked by 3deafcon zed barbarza
  • x0x0xx0x0x Member

    @NotFoundException said:

    Wait, so it is jsg

    Or who should it be? Show yourself!

    Only two lines of text. Definitely not jsg.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @x0x0x said:

    @NotFoundException said:

    Wait, so it is jsg

    Or who should it be? Show yourself!

    Only two lines of text. Definitely not jsg.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    I'm off. Hope you guys have plenty of popcorn.

    Sleep tight @VeloxMedia

  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @deafcon said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @deafcon said:
    I know it was mentioned much earlier, but the currency changed from pounds to dollars shortly after the personality change from Lewis to Eric. My plan is not one of the ultra cheap deals, it's probably something a normal LET provider would offer. It looks like it was about 33% less than I actually paid because it is denominated in dollars now. I'm trying to figure out what angle they were working with that change. Just trying to make the "sale" seem more legit? Trying to work it so they could refund in dollars and no one would notice? Neither of those make a lot of sense, but I can't think of anything better.

    Conversion and location. If from us £ would be no issue... If from uk £ would be no issue. In some locations.... Getting payed in £ might be an issue.... Depending on how legal it is what your doing.

    I guess that's a good theory if we assume they thought they could keep the scam going and get more people to buy.

    Its both, exit scam and trying to get a few extra bucks along the way. Velox will be gone once chargebacks ain't possible anymore.

    The time to chargeback really is now!

    :wink:

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • forestforest Member

    @ralf said:
    I want @VeloxMedia to promise to honour the contracts to term. I don't understand why you wouldn't want that.

    Better than just making a promise (which I think he already did), I'd like to see him formally transfer the contracts to himself so that he is duty bound to honor them. I suggested that before but was ignored.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • xvpsxvps Member
    edited January 9

    @x0x0x said:

    @NotFoundException said:

    Wait, so it is jsg

    Or who should it be? Show yourself!

    Only two lines of text. Definitely not jsg.

    Are you sure?

    60 years old lady from Moscow with the same username.
    https://dating.ru/late3/

    :D

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • @forest said:

    @ralf said:
    I want @VeloxMedia to promise to honour the contracts to term. I don't understand why you wouldn't want that.

    Better than just making a promise (which I think he already did), I'd like to see him formally transfer the contracts to himself so that he is duty bound to honor them. I suggested that before but was ignored.

    You're late to the party, I see

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • forestforest Member

    @VeloxMedia said:
    So here's what I'm thinking. Since no one seems happy and our status is suspended here for no reason and people want their data deleted.

    Why don't we suspend all our LET deal clients until we get this all figured out and everyone is happy and our status here isn't suspended? This seems to be fair. If anyone has issues they can just chargeback.

    Please do not do that. While I am concerned about what is happening here, I am content with the service I have and would like to keep it. As someone who paid with cryptocurrency, I am, of course, unable to chargeback even if I wanted to.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • forestforest Member

    @jsg said:
    (a) I'm not defending him. That would be implying that he did something wrong, and I don't see that he has (besides his PR/communications). I'm merely not joining a witch hunt. Big difference.

    While I do think that, at least originally, this could be described somewhat as a witch hunt, at this point Eric's behavior has become bad enough that it suits the flack he's getting. Sure, the servers are still up and running, but constantly wondering if I'll have my service terminated because he's angry is not a nice feeling. I kept hoping he would improve his behavior, but he's begun threatening people.

    Are you really sure that you didn't provoke him?

    He was provoked by a lot of people, for sure, but he's not the customer. He is in a position of trust, holding people's PII and taking their money, and must be held to a higher standard. Him falling for bait or being provoked into bad behavior is his own fault, not the fault of the provocateur.

    I really, really try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this has been going downhill for so long.

  • forestforest Member

    @NotFoundException said:

    @forest said:

    @ralf said:
    I want @VeloxMedia to promise to honour the contracts to term. I don't understand why you wouldn't want that.

    Better than just making a promise (which I think he already did), I'd like to see him formally transfer the contracts to himself so that he is duty bound to honor them. I suggested that before but was ignored.

    You're late to the party, I see

    It seems like I am. Just caught up now. Damn. :/

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • @forest said:

    @jsg said:
    (a) I'm not defending him. That would be implying that he did something wrong, and I don't see that he has (besides his PR/communications). I'm merely not joining a witch hunt. Big difference.

    While I do think that, at least originally, this could be described somewhat as a witch hunt, at this point Eric's behavior has become bad enough that it suits the flack he's getting. Sure, the servers are still up and running, but constantly wondering if I'll have my service terminated because he's angry is not a nice feeling. I kept hoping he would improve his behavior, but he's begun threatening people.

    Are you really sure that you didn't provoke him?

    He was provoked by a lot of people, for sure, but he's not the customer. He is in a position of trust, holding people's PII and taking their money, and must be held to a higher standard. Him falling for bait or being provoked into bad behavior is his own fault, not the fault of the provocateur.

    I really, really try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this has been going downhill for so long.

    This was never a witch hunt. What makes you think that it was?
    This was a thread where VeloxMedia changed hands without any notification, upset customers found out through a thread(the start of the eroding trust), LET users (who were and also weren't customers) criticizing every shit move the new owners have made(which was also they own undoing), refusing to answer questions that needed to be answered, dodging responsibility, acting childish when the criticism continued and now threatens to kill services and is expecting you to chargeback.

    A witchhunt is deliberate harassment of unpopular opinions.

    I am not sure how the summed up version of this thread, fits into that description of a witchhunt.

    Thanked by 2ralf Saragoldfarb
  • forestforest Member
    edited January 9

    @MaxTakeba said:
    This was never a witch hunt. What makes you think that it was?
    This was a thread where VeloxMedia changed hands without any notification, upset customers found out through a thread(the start of the eroding trust), LET users (who were and also weren't customers) criticizing every shit move the new owners have made(which was also they own undoing), refusing to answer questions that needed to be answered, dodging responsibility, acting childish when the criticism continued and now threatens to kill services and is expecting you to chargeback.

    A witchhunt is deliberate harassment of unpopular opinions.

    I am not sure how the summed up version of this thread, fits into that description of a witchhunt.

    I think it could be described as one. I don't believe it actually is, but it is close enough that I can see that it would be from Eric's point of view.

    What frustrates me is that the legitimate criticisms of Eric's bad behavior turned into goading him into deleting all the data, which he now appears likely to do. That actually angers me, no matter what Eric's behavior is. I did not use Paypal and cannot chargeback if he does delete it.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    Thank you @Saragoldfarb - it seems @VeloxMedia no longer has any happy customers, because there was just one happy customer and that one got suspended. Finally the end is nigh.

  • rpqurpqu Member

    @MaxTakeba said:

    @forest said:

    @jsg said:
    (a) I'm not defending him. That would be implying that he did something wrong, and I don't see that he has (besides his PR/communications). I'm merely not joining a witch hunt. Big difference.

    While I do think that, at least originally, this could be described somewhat as a witch hunt, at this point Eric's behavior has become bad enough that it suits the flack he's getting. Sure, the servers are still up and running, but constantly wondering if I'll have my service terminated because he's angry is not a nice feeling. I kept hoping he would improve his behavior, but he's begun threatening people.

    Are you really sure that you didn't provoke him?

    He was provoked by a lot of people, for sure, but he's not the customer. He is in a position of trust, holding people's PII and taking their money, and must be held to a higher standard. Him falling for bait or being provoked into bad behavior is his own fault, not the fault of the provocateur.

    I really, really try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but this has been going downhill for so long.

    This was never a witch hunt. What makes you think that it was? 11
    This was a thread where VeloxMedia changed hands without any notification, upset customers found out through a thread(the start of the eroding trust), LET users (who were and also weren't customers) criticizing every shit move the new owners have made(which was also they own undoing), refusing to answer questions that needed to be answered, dodging responsibility, acting childish when the criticism continued and now threatens to kill services and is expecting you to chargeback.

    I already told Eric to get legal counsel. Oh, I'm terribly wrong. Every post he made should have been passed to legal, as he lacks in crisis management

  • @forest said:

    @MaxTakeba said:
    This was never a witch hunt. What makes you think that it was?
    This was a thread where VeloxMedia changed hands without any notification, upset customers found out through a thread(the start of the eroding trust), LET users (who were and also weren't customers) criticizing every shit move the new owners have made(which was also they own undoing), refusing to answer questions that needed to be answered, dodging responsibility, acting childish when the criticism continued and now threatens to kill services and is expecting you to chargeback.

    A witchhunt is deliberate harassment of unpopular opinions.

    I am not sure how the summed up version of this thread, fits into that description of a witchhunt.

    I think it could be described as one. I don't believe it actually is, but it is close enough that I can see that it would be from Eric's point of view.

    What frustrates me is that the legitimate criticisms turned into goading him into deleting all the data, which he now appears likely to do. That actually angers me.

    Running a hosting business is one thing.

    "Acquring" one and not agreeing to the customers data and their services... admitting knowingly they have it... flipping and flopping... acting unprofessionaly is not a witch hunt. That's just calling out stupidity and LET has rightfully done so as this is NOT the first time and NOR will it be the last.

    I don't think anyone goaded him... he just couldn't handle the consequences and the feedback he was given. Child throwing a tantrum in the sandpit and throwing all of the toys out.

    Thanked by 2hizzely ralf
  • defaultdefault Veteran

    Thanked by 2ralf Saragoldfarb
  • forestforest Member

    @MaxTakeba said:

    @forest said:

    @MaxTakeba said:
    This was never a witch hunt. What makes you think that it was?
    This was a thread where VeloxMedia changed hands without any notification, upset customers found out through a thread(the start of the eroding trust), LET users (who were and also weren't customers) criticizing every shit move the new owners have made(which was also they own undoing), refusing to answer questions that needed to be answered, dodging responsibility, acting childish when the criticism continued and now threatens to kill services and is expecting you to chargeback.

    A witchhunt is deliberate harassment of unpopular opinions.

    I am not sure how the summed up version of this thread, fits into that description of a witchhunt.

    I think it could be described as one. I don't believe it actually is, but it is close enough that I can see that it would be from Eric's point of view.

    What frustrates me is that the legitimate criticisms turned into goading him into deleting all the data, which he now appears likely to do. That actually angers me.

    Running a hosting business is one thing.

    "Acquring" one and not agreeing to the customers data and their services... admitting knowingly they have it... flipping and flopping... acting unprofessionaly is not a witch hunt. That's just calling out stupidity and LET has rightfully done so as this is NOT the first time and NOR will it be the last.

    I don't think anyone goaded him... he just couldn't handle the consequences and the feedback he was given. Child throwing a tantrum in the sandpit and throwing all of the toys out.

    I agree. I'm talking more about things along the lines of "delete everyone's data then!" and "why don't you just do that? Delete it all!". It's just my own selfish frustration speaking, because I have service from him. I don't mean to sound like I'm defending him or trying to criticize the (very valid) points that many people came up with here that Eric refused to listen to. I even tried to help him calm down myself, but he just kept threatening people and getting worse. It was sad to witness.

    Thanked by 2hizzely Saragoldfarb
  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @forest said:

    @MaxTakeba said:

    @forest said:

    @MaxTakeba said:
    This was never a witch hunt. What makes you think that it was?
    This was a thread where VeloxMedia changed hands without any notification, upset customers found out through a thread(the start of the eroding trust), LET users (who were and also weren't customers) criticizing every shit move the new owners have made(which was also they own undoing), refusing to answer questions that needed to be answered, dodging responsibility, acting childish when the criticism continued and now threatens to kill services and is expecting you to chargeback.

    A witchhunt is deliberate harassment of unpopular opinions.

    I am not sure how the summed up version of this thread, fits into that description of a witchhunt.

    I think it could be described as one. I don't believe it actually is, but it is close enough that I can see that it would be from Eric's point of view.

    What frustrates me is that the legitimate criticisms turned into goading him into deleting all the data, which he now appears likely to do. That actually angers me.

    Running a hosting business is one thing.

    "Acquring" one and not agreeing to the customers data and their services... admitting knowingly they have it... flipping and flopping... acting unprofessionaly is not a witch hunt. That's just calling out stupidity and LET has rightfully done so as this is NOT the first time and NOR will it be the last.

    I don't think anyone goaded him... he just couldn't handle the consequences and the feedback he was given. Child throwing a tantrum in the sandpit and throwing all of the toys out.

    I agree. I'm talking more about things along the lines of "delete everyone's data then!" and "why don't you just do that? Delete it all!". It's just my own selfish frustration speaking, because I have service from him. I don't mean to sound like I'm defending him or trying to criticize the (very valid) points that many people came up with here that Eric refused to listen to. I even tried to help him calm down myself, but he just kept threatening people and getting worse. It was sad to witness.

    The dude is simply not professional. He received advice with arguments, but simply would not listen and would not answer questions. It was him against the world.

    He did not get it that we wanted him to succeed in a proper, respectful and honest way. But he wanted to stay hidden and in control without being serious, transparent and responsible. This was a recipe for disaster which only amplified every day - we all knew things were up to no good, but at least we tried to help.

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