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Velox media under new management

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @Saragoldfarb hows the discord looking?

    Quite boring currently....

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  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @network said:

    @tfgp99 said:

    @VeloxMedia said: Literally none of this applies to cherry picking or the US

    You have UK/EU customers, doesn't matter if you are a US company or not.

    He doesn't have any customers. They're Lewis's customers. He just happens to have the keys to the servers and is paying the bills for no reason.

    He bought the data, it is him costumers.

    Where did you get this info? You can't just make stuff up

    Haven't you? So as long as i can realize, it is stolen data then... Thats a crime.

    Are you in the EU/UK?

    Yes, i am.

  • ralfralf Member

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @Saragoldfarb hows the discord looking?

    Quite boring currently....

    Oh? We were promised pages and pages of adoring fans gushing about how wonderful the new overlord is.

    Thanked by 2tentor Saragoldfarb
  • defaultdefault Veteran

    Thanked by 2ralf Saragoldfarb
  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member

    @ralf said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @AlteredParadox said:
    @Saragoldfarb hows the discord looking?

    Quite boring currently....

    Oh? We were promised pages and pages of adoring fans gushing about how wonderful the new overlord is.

    that was before, now it is really quiet.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    Liable for what exactly? We don't have any agreement with you or anything. We didn't take anything, Lewis was responsible for your data not me.

    And yet you have my info and my data. Why? You said you are GDPR compliant... so please explain how you got to be in possession of my data without my consent, because clearly my data is on your servers.

    Last I remember I paid some business, but not your business.

    @default said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    Liable for what exactly? We don't have any agreement with you or anything. We didn't take anything, Lewis was responsible for your data not me.

    And yet you have my info and my data. Why? You said you are GDPR compliant... so please explain how you got to be in possession of my data without my consent, because clearly my data is on your servers.

    Last I remember I paid some business, but not your business.

    Lewis was responsible for your agreement and your data.

    Thank you for clarifying this. I am glad Lewis was responsible for my data. I paid him for precisely that.

    I'm not responsible for your data, Lewis is.

    You did not answer my question as to why my data is with you. I have not paid you, I paid Lewis, but you have my data, and my account, and my info. You said you are GDPR compliant - I hereby invoke the GDPR legislation in demanding explanation from you as to why you have my data.

    Where are you seeing that any responsibility was transferred from lewis to me?

    You have my data. You should answer this. You must explain yourself, not me. I paid Lewis, and now you have my invoice in how I paid Lewis. You also have my data which Lewis hosted; so you're the one to answer.

    What notification or agreement or anything did you receive saying this?

    You stated you acquired Veloxmedia and its data in this thread.

    Who specifically did you pay for the service.

    VeloxMedia - but the data is with you. It is up to you to justify yourself.

    What does your credit card statement say?

    [REDACTED ON THIS FORUM] (for GDPR legislation with regards to sensitive data - you should know this)

    Who signed your agreement?

    VeloxMedia - now with you because you have the whole client area

    These are what matter and none of this is with us.

    Actually it is, all of it is. The whole client area and all the services are with you.

    Ahh I see the issue. We're Velox Media inc.

    Really? Who have I just payed then?

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  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    Pending. It's a pre-authorization required for fraud verification . Also were manually reviewing orders and aren't approving stuff like this so the order was cancelled.

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Very worried client here....

    Then chargeback

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  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member

    @VeloxMedia I can tell you even more, i've helped my companys to start introducing to GDPR and Whistleblowing, since my government tightened the rules. You dont need to even know it. But what you're doing is totally wrong.

    Thanked by 2ralf Saragoldfarb
  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Very worried client here....

    Then chargeback

    Congratulations on your first LET customer who actually paid! This customer is yours now, no longer with Lewis!

  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    Pending. It's a pre-authorization required for fraud verification . Also were manually reviewing orders and aren't approving stuff like this so the order was cancelled.

    Pending or not, why her CC is saved? And why your system is making your customers to pay again? So you're keep cancelling services without refunding. Ultra red flag in here.

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  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Very worried client here....

    Then chargeback

    Finally you have said it.

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  • ralfralf Member

    At the end of the day, there's no reason veloxmedia would pay out to support Lewis' customers for free, while claiming to have no obligations to them, unless it is part of Lewis' exit-scam. It literally makes no sense otherwise.

    Thanked by 2tentor Saragoldfarb
  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @default said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    Let me explain this easier. We allocated 12 million this year to this project, and basically get unlimited servers for low end, for free, and always will as we use our old enterprise servers for these.

    A few thousand a month is nothing, we literally saved millions by offloading resources from our tier 4 DCs to these new lower tiers.

    So you used money from 12 million to buy a failing business?! With that kind of money a serious manager investing in hosting would build their own datacenter and attract customers.

    We are... But why not pickup infrastructure that's already setup and grow on that. Saving us a lot of time?

    Now we simply migrate to our datacenters and scale this thing up. Even without the clients we saved tons of money

    Idk how much Time you think it costs to build this entire infrastructure

  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member

    A legal action is urgently needed.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • ralfralf Member

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    Let me explain this easier. We allocated 12 million this year to this project, and basically get unlimited servers for low end, for free, and always will as we use our old enterprise servers for these.

    A few thousand a month is nothing, we literally saved millions by offloading resources from our tier 4 DCs to these new lower tiers.

    So you used money from 12 million to buy a failing business?! With that kind of money a serious manager investing in hosting would build their own datacenter and attract customers.

    We are... But why not pickup infrastructure that's already setup and grow on that. Saving us a lot of time?

    Now we simply migrate to our datacenters and scale this thing up. Even without the clients we saved tons of money

    Idk how much Time you think it costs to build this entire infrastructure

    So why don't you want to ditch the clients? What's in it for you? You're breaking the law by doing so, so presumably you must have some kind of good reason.

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @TandM said:

    @VeloxMedia said: Let me explain this easier. We allocated 12 million this year to this project, and basically get unlimited servers for low end, for free, and always will as we use our old enterprise servers for these.

    The best way to start a VPS hosting company project with $12M of available funding, was by buying but also somehow not buying the operations of a shabby, mostly unknown one man low end host? All while wanting to build it into some grand hosting company?

    I think the story you're trying to spin is unraveling fast, no amount of vague claims due to supposed NDAs can make this make any sense.

    We already have the enterprise infrastructure and well established. This is a market we don't know so yes since we're already at the top we start at the bottom and then work to add any services in between.

    Do you have a better idea? Let's hear your elevator pitch

  • TandMTandM Member
    edited January 8

    @VeloxMedia said: Do you have a better idea? Let's hear your elevator pitch

    Acquire an actually functional and trustworthy hosting company.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @VeloxMedia

    As per GDPR, please let me know how your obtained my data.

    Reguards

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  • ralfralf Member

    @VeloxMedia said:
    Do you have a better idea? Let's hear your elevator pitch

    1. Follow the law
    2. Honour your contracts when you purchase a business
    3. ?
    4. Profit
    Thanked by 1tfgp99
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @plumberg said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @plumberg said:

    >

    Again, not sure how much clearer I can make this. If you file a chargeback you have a legal obligation to notify that the service should be discontinued otherwise it's fraud.

    But they must notify the service to be disconnected by law otherwise it's fraud.

    To which specific country’s law and legal statute are you referring? Please provide a citation to the relevant statute.

    The users here have cited specifics while @VeloxMedia has cited nothing but fluff.

    Here you go. Also every terms and conditions with your credit provider. I've attached basics from stripe below too. Literally the first sentence in the definition.

    "Chargeback fraud occurs when a customer intentionally disputes a charge in order to receive a refund, while keeping the product or service"

    18 U.S.C. § 1343

    https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-941-18-usc-1343-elements-wire-fraud

    https://stripe.com/resources/more/chargeback-fraud-101

    But no one is charging back @VeloxMedia
    Per you, its between users and Lewis prior to Dec 21, 2025

    So where are you going with this?

    It doesn't change any of the facts. Just makes us complicit in the fraud if we're aware and don't delete services.

    Fraud is fraud regardless of who it's against or who's involved. We're required as a vendor with the payment gateways to report and assit

    Can you prove the "intent" that customer is trying defraud anyone?

  • @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    Let me explain this easier. We allocated 12 million this year to this project, and basically get unlimited servers for low end, for free, and always will as we use our old enterprise servers for these.

    A few thousand a month is nothing, we literally saved millions by offloading resources from our tier 4 DCs to these new lower tiers.

    So you used money from 12 million to buy a failing business?! With that kind of money a serious manager investing in hosting would build their own datacenter and attract customers.

    We are... But why not pickup infrastructure that's already setup and grow on that. Saving us a lot of time?

    Now we simply migrate to our datacenters and scale this thing up. Even without the clients we saved tons of money

    Idk how much Time you think it costs to build this entire infrastructure

    So why don't you want to ditch the clients? What's in it for you? You're breaking the law by doing so, so presumably you must have some kind of good reason.

    He's ready if we say so: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4709357#Comment_4709357.

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  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    I can cite 2 clowns in real world LET that holds customers data from previous owners

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  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @default said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    Liable for what exactly? We don't have any agreement with you or anything. We didn't take anything, Lewis was responsible for your data not me.

    And yet you have my info and my data. Why? You said you are GDPR compliant... so please explain how you got to be in possession of my data without my consent, because clearly my data is on your servers.

    Last I remember I paid some business, but not your business.

    @default said:

    @VeloxMedia said:

    Liable for what exactly? We don't have any agreement with you or anything. We didn't take anything, Lewis was responsible for your data not me.

    And yet you have my info and my data. Why? You said you are GDPR compliant... so please explain how you got to be in possession of my data without my consent, because clearly my data is on your servers.

    Last I remember I paid some business, but not your business.

    Lewis was responsible for your agreement and your data.

    Thank you for clarifying this. I am glad Lewis was responsible for my data. I paid him for precisely that.

    I'm not responsible for your data, Lewis is.

    You did not answer my question as to why my data is with you. I have not paid you, I paid Lewis, but you have my data, and my account, and my info. You said you are GDPR compliant - I hereby invoke the GDPR legislation in demanding explanation from you as to why you have my data.

    Where are you seeing that any responsibility was transferred from lewis to me?

    You have my data. You should answer this. You must explain yourself, not me. I paid Lewis, and now you have my invoice in how I paid Lewis. You also have my data which Lewis hosted; so you're the one to answer.

    What notification or agreement or anything did you receive saying this?

    You stated you acquired Veloxmedia and its data in this thread.

    Who specifically did you pay for the service.

    VeloxMedia - but the data is with you. It is up to you to justify yourself.

    What does your credit card statement say?

    [REDACTED ON THIS FORUM] (for GDPR legislation with regards to sensitive data - you should know this)

    Who signed your agreement?

    VeloxMedia - now with you because you have the whole client area

    These are what matter and none of this is with us.

    Actually it is, all of it is. The whole client area and all the services are with you.

    Ahh I see the issue. We're Velox Media inc.

    Really? Who have I just payed then?

    It even shows as pending on your photo and it'll be refunded

    Just because you put your info in doesn't mean we accepted your order.

  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    @VeloxMedia

    As per GDPR, please let me know how your obtained my data.

    Reguards

    Didn't you just give us your data when you tried to make an order?

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  • VeloxMediaVeloxMedia 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @ralf said:

    @VeloxMedia said:
    Do you have a better idea? Let's hear your elevator pitch

    1. Follow the law
    2. Honour your contracts when you purchase a business
    3. ?
    4. Profit

    We didn't purchase a business

  • tfgp99tfgp99 Member
    edited January 8

    @VeloxMedia said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    @VeloxMedia

    As per GDPR, please let me know how your obtained my data.

    Reguards

    Didn't you just give us your data when you tried to make an order?


    fr cant be serious, answer it properly now @VeloxMedia. Stop with the games.

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • CalypsoCalypso Member
    edited January 8

    @VeloxMedia said:

    "Chargeback fraud occurs when a customer intentionally disputes a charge in order to receive a refund, while keeping the product or service"

    18 U.S.C. § 1343

    https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-941-18-usc-1343-elements-wire-fraud

    https://stripe.com/resources/more/chargeback-fraud-101

    Yep, it's there.

    When a customer intentionally disputes to receive a refund, while keeping the product or service.

    Here you go wrong. The customer doesn't have a product anymore since you don't see him as a customer and you provide what you consider the product.

    So for you to call it a fraud from your point of view, you have to admit that the person who asked for the chargeback is a customer of yours.

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  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @Saragoldfarb - you need to successfully make a payment in order to become their customer. That way they will become legally bound because they took your money. However, are you sure you want to pay them?

  • ralfralf Member

    @plumberg said:

    I can cite 2 clowns in real world LET that holds customers data from previous owners

    But, do they treat those customers exactly like their other customers, or do they say they have no obligations to them and threaten that their service might be cut off whenever they feel like it?

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