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BS³!! The reason behind that is judging different cultures, legal structures, etc. Basically you are saying "India, the UK, China, etc." don't have the same legal system and laws like Murrica (or maybe Thailand)!".
That is not to say that I like KYC,censorship, etc., quite the contrary, but callng another country a dystopian hellscape because it's different from what you are used to just is unfair and nonsensical.
LowEnd hosts with no knowledge of their retention policy, how they verify the documents, and who in their organization has access to it is retarded. So is supporting businesses in jurisdictions that have insane laws...
No, what's really retarded is that legislations making KYC laws did and still do not think about, let alone provide a solution for the problems arising out of that.
The construct "both parties entering a contract", typically seller and customer, is totally normal and exists since the dawn of civilization. The major reason people strongly dislike KYC is that their personal data are not protected and in fact there is a high risk of those data getting stolen/hacked or even sold.
HostDZire is no less of a well known and well reputed brand than the ones you mentioned and they are well reputed enough for Leaseweb to co-operate with them. But they are not us-american nor european ... so basically you sound like "they are different from what we westerners know, hence not trustworthy".
That is not my premise, and yes, it's sad, even tragical, that we (humanity) have reached that point. BUT: Even police officers can't be willy nilly considered corrupt. And so far we have no, null, zero reason to assume that the indian officers in that case are corrupt.
If we want a real solution for the problems, we need to address the causes, not the symptoms.
How do you know that? Have you read the notice?
They never 'tried to contact' me in this regard. They only forced me to share passport details, phone number & address, after suspending my services, even for me to know what happened. That's not how it works.
Your payment gateway never had GST component loaded on the costs. If you missed doing that, you can't blame the customer. Also, if you think you can offset money like this, you're not legally correct. You'd have to issue a fresh tax invoice. You can't blame the customer for you not charging GST on them.
Yes, I received the refund. You still haven't let me know the date of the 'abuse' in the notice you received. Was it earlier than last 3 weeks, since I had purchased it on 30th November 2025 in a BF deal on LET. I had hardly set up the new service for my use. And I never ran any proxies, or shit, even on the other service I had with you for last 1+ years. And you know that.
Nah, I have been asking them to reveal the date. They never did. Possibly they know that the abuse date on the notice is way before last 3 weeks.
They have categorically avoiding that. Maybe they realised that they screwed up. And the date was indeed before 30th Nov 2025!
Well, again, I was never told about the complaint until I wrote about the arbitrary suspension. You still didn't check or reveal the date of the 'abuse' you received on the complaint. I purchased the service on 30th November 2025, in a BF deal on LET. I have been using your other services since more than an year, and you never received any notice/complaint. You should've checked. There are possibilities of an abuse from the previous user who this IP was allotted to. And you know that.
You should start asking for KYC before delivering the service, as per the rules then. You are flouting them by not doing so.
If they'd timely done that, I wouldn't have had to face all this ordeal.
No mate. I'm asking valid questions for the sake of transparency. If an intermediary is required to do kyc before the purchase, why didn't HostDzire do that? Why do they still not do it? They have just claimed that no one likes kyc, so we don't ask them to do it. So, it's about following the due process. Not working at whims and fancies. They never did their part. They can't demand kyc all of a sudden after suspending your services, without any basis. If there's a basis, they'll have to communicate that. I wasn't aware about the complaint until I wrote here to know the reason. That shouldn't be the case.
When you sign up for a provider with fake information, you shouldn't care if your server gets suspended or terminated. If there is any reason at all to believe that they received a legal complaint, you should forfeit the service and go away quietly. Because why in the actual fuck would anyone care about the data hosted on a server that they purchased from someone they don't trust using fake credentials?
Not a single one of you operates as this host's legal representative. You are not authorized nor welcome to comment on their legal obligations.
The end. This didn't need 6 pages.
You know that feeling you get that you have basic, core knowledge which is so fundamental that anyone who doesn't understand it yet chooses to comment must be insane? Yet, there are still so many of them that it makes you lose faith in humanity routinely?
It's justified.
@donb
I dont have keep doing things which you want me to do, i understand and know you want to keep this thread active by asking multiple questions, raising multiple questions, which makes no sense. good luck with that.
If you really want answers i really suggest you to ask legally, once you will ask legally, then you will have to face consequences for the words you say. and then we can also take some action against you. right now you are free to say whatever you want, and we are not free to say since we are legally bounded.
Hey @jar!
I disagree. No one makes a fake account per se. Most of the WHCMS fields, which are optional, and customers don't wish to divulge their personal information (why should they?). It's not a deliberate attempt at faking the credentials. It's simply not wanting to disclosing personal information for some dirt-cheap service they wish to try and explore.
Now, when it comes to a complaint, the host is expected to do a basic check of dates. In this case, I'd purchased the service like 3 weeks back on a BF deal. I had hardly setup the server for my regular use. And the services are found suspended without any notice, no reason nothing. Just plain - "Give me your passport details, a photo with a declaration and your address". I wouldn't budge to such a thing, sorry! There are rules and due processes to be followed. While none of us are the host's legal representatives, we can surely question the host's process of following a due legal process. And that's what has been done.
That is in fact a deliberate attempt at faking credentials. You didn't trust them with your contact information, so the only logical conclusion is that you didn't trust them with important data. So there's no problem here.
can i get free hostdzire vps
If you really want answers i really suggest you to ask legally, once you will ask legally, then you will have to face consequences for the words you say. and then we can also take some action against you. right now you are free to say whatever you want, and we are not free to say since we are legally bounded.
You don't have to keep doing things which I want you to do, but you expect your customers to dance to your whims and fancies without asking questions. You'll need a good amount of proof to 'take action against me'. Not some blurred image with 'abuse date' hidden to protect yourselves, and make accusations. You're equally bounded by law to follow the due process, my friend.
So what's the point? I wouldn't obviously want to share my passport details and all with a random host. It's not the same as purchasing and using their budget services for non-critical tasks, right?
Just want to confirm, you’re saying HostDZire is no less well known than Oracle, yes?
Better abstain, even if they give it for free. Their IPs are under the radar of cops, and they'd blame you for their misdeeds.
Off course we are not Oracle
We wish to be 
How about DigitalOcean then? Because @MannDude said:
And then @jsg responded saying:
Unfortunately suspension of servers and KYC request happened to me with Hostdzire Indian servers too and not once but twice (even though I already provided the neccessary details, only because HostDzire seems to be reputable provider).
I operated fully legal public NTP servers as part of the NTP pool, the same service that still operates on couple other HostDzire servers but those outisde of India were not suspended.
The issue is that my services are still suspended, no more details from support, no refund, just unusable servers:
Therefore I wouldn't recommend the servers in India, you might receive KYC request randomly.
The point is simple, and it's already been stated. With all due respect, you are in the wrong here and it is not subjective. You signed up with fake information, they claim to have received a legal complaint that requires them to obtain information from you before they can proceed. You have the losing hand here, and no amount of words will change it.
When two parties disagree about the legal obligations of one of the two parties, assumptions must land in favor of the party that is legally liable for the outcome. If they follow your legal advice and you are wrong, they are liable and you get to escape without consequence while they do not share that freedom. If they are wrong, then it is up to you and your legal representative to prove it. This forum is not a court. Your claims on what the law allows or requires are of no significance here.
The host has shown enough to suggest that they received a legal complaint. They have expressed their interpretation of their legal obligations. That your interpretation of law differs from theirs is fine for you, but again you are not legally liable for their compliance with the law or lack thereof. That is their obligation to know, and disputes must occur through legal channels.
The context is LET and here @HostDZire is no less of a well known and well reputed brand than the ones you mentioned. But of bloody course you picked out Oracle ... forgetting, it seems, that their reputation got tarnished more than once ...
Be that as it may, I'm not interested in talking with you. Have a nice day.
But you said well known and well reputated, not either well known or reputated.
Had I picked Digital Ocean, would they be as well known then?
You’re just lying constantly but no one argues against it because everyone just ignores it at this point
I think you should ask @HostDZire to either pro rata refund the servers or to unsuspend them (and extend their life-time so that you get the full time you possibly pre-paid). Assuming that running a NTP server on them really was all you used those VPS for.
Another hair splitting and relativating attempt + of course an ad hominem. Flagged.
You don’t have to announce it because I doubt anyone cares
You have flagged tons of my comments and I have never once been warned for any, likely because mods share the same opinion most users do
Let’s hope this time it’s different
Indeed.
How have you used Markdown for 7 years and still can’t quite grasp the syntax?
Again, it's not signing up with 'fake credentials'. With all due respect, you're getting it all wrong. You'll have to understand that you're not bound to provide your real details while signing up for any services. If you are mandated to do a kyc right at the start and you deliberately camouflage, that would amount to faking things. In this case, there was no intent to do so. And intent matters.
Now, the legal complaint they spoke of, wasn't communicated. Forget the communication, it wasn't even spelt out that there was a complaint and that's the reason for suspension. Whether the complaint requires them to collect my personal information, is subjective, and for that, they'll have to serve me the complaint. You can't randomly walk to me seeking my details. You're an intermediary, not a law enforcement agency. And that's pretty clear. And I stand by what I said all this long on this thread.
Again, the idea of putting up this thread is not to have an arbitration here. I have stated that earlier. I share my experience here with the potential buyers of this community to take cue. You're free to make your judgements. But if you pass your judgements, I'm free to counter them. Hope that clears the air.
I would love to know more details about this. How NTP servers are implicated and become part of criminal investigation???
Assuming it was run normally like other locations, I would assume:
That's fine if you want to treat it that way. Most hosts really don't care personally. But when you do that, you should be aware that if any legal concern arises in relation to your account then you forfeit the service because you cannot be held legally liable for the legal complaint. It shouldn't be enough that you don't intend to cause a legal complaint, there's really no way to guarantee that you never cross paths with one.
Can @Rubben get a free @HostDZire VPS please. Preferably one of the $22/year deal ones, those are awesome!
Better seek a refund and forget they exist as a host on this planet. Their IPs seem to be under the radar of law enforcement. And they seem to be blaming their customers for their misdeeds.
Fair point. All I am saying is that the so called legal concern that has arisen, must be spelt out to the customer at the time of suspension. Keeping the customer is abeyance is something which may not go down well in today's time of transparency.
You're a hosting provider yourself. You pretty well know that there can be such cases wherein you receive a complaint on an IP and that IP was recently allotted to a new service/customer. A simple talk with the client, a basic dates check, etc can help resolve the issue. You need not shut his services without telling him why, and just keep asking for his passport details to even mention why you shut the services in the first place.
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