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Is if fair for the GeenCloudVPS to cancel my 3-years service without refunding??

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  • @whynotlearn said:
    I think that maybe the OP kinda wished if there were ways that he could've been known that when he meant cancelling, he wouldn't get a refund as although yes its written in the terms of service, I feel like a better job could've also been done if it was written on the
    web page where OP cancelled it.

    Maybe something every provider here can learn/do perhaps if they do not give refunds on deals?

    I've seen remarkt "no refund" or "your data will be lost" blinking, in large, bold, red colored texts on "cancel" pages with even confirmation dialogs repeating that it's irreversable and people still click it and complain about data or money being lost afterwards.

    There is really no amount of measures that can prevent stupidity.

    Thanked by 2skorous tentor
  • @NDTN said:

    That's good for you when OVH or iKoula did that, but it might not be feasible in every provider's case. If we make an exception this time, there would be numerous requests from MJJs to change location, refund, etc., as they will focus on why we accepted A's request but not B's. Since A will normally share the story on a local forum, a lot of Bs will follow suit.

    write Chinese warning on the order page, that gonna help a lot

    many Chinese can't speak English, they just fallow some tutorials to order

  • @xvps said: Ban the clown for:

    claiming to work for GreenCloudVPS.
    

    Yeah, that's got to be a bannable offence.

  • Just realized the title "GeenCloud VPS"

  • @NDTN said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @barbaros said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @lowendclient said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @Arirang said:
    Cancellation ≠ Refund.

    I bought/rented a few servers from OVH us and iKoula from France to take advantage of BF.

    I asked to cancel one of their servers from us OVH, a few days from the purchase citing the network was not as fast as I thought it would be. They sent me proof in the order process that the network was fine, just not the level I wanted it to be at. I then asked for refund for the sake of it. Viola! They refunded me and asked for a good review :D

    I also asked to cancel one of the servers I bought from iKoula. It had some trouble maintaining online as my port 22 monitoring service sent me disconnection from time to time. They eventually canceled AND refunded the whole month that I did not ask for.

    They both were running BF promotion. I believe they have similar or more restrictive TOS than GC.

    That’s a favor, not an obligation.
    According to GC 's TOS, no refund, that's all.
    Dont bring up irrelevant things.

    According to OVH's and iKoula 's TOS, no refund, that's all, as well.
    This is never irrelevant. Rather, this is EVERY PROVIDER here should learn to go bigger. Do not fight with small clients for small $$ for god's sake. Dang!

    Well if you think OVH and iKoula has better TOS or doing better favors than GreenCloud, just keep buying from them not GreenCloud.

    Problem solved

    Your interpretation is the problem.
    OVH and iKoula has no better TOS. And they yet refunded me $$ out of good will. If you want a bigger picture, you should do the same or more. That's what I am saying.

    That's good for you when OVH or iKoula did that, but it might not be feasible in every provider's case. If we make an exception this time, there would be numerous requests from MJJs to change location, refund, etc., as they will focus on why we accepted A's request but not B's. Since A will normally share the story on a local forum, a lot of Bs will follow suit.

    But what OP highlighted is that it is somewhat ambiguous what happens after submitting a request for cancellation (i.e., is it just a request that will only be confirmed after reviewing the reason?). So what you should do is update that interface to make it clear that the reason might not be read at all, and that the cancellation is fully automated. If you do that, then there is no way that Bs will follow with the same story.

    Or maybe people should put into that text box: "By accepting this cancellation request, you also agree to a full refund"

  • @cmeerw said: Or maybe people should put into that text box: "By accepting this cancellation request, you also agree to a full refund"

    Or maybe people should just not click cancel and then confirm the warning message if they're not sure they fully understand the T&Cs.

    Thanked by 1lowendclient
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @cmeerw said:

    @NDTN said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @barbaros said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @lowendclient said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @Arirang said:
    Cancellation ≠ Refund.

    I bought/rented a few servers from OVH us and iKoula from France to take advantage of BF.

    I asked to cancel one of their servers from us OVH, a few days from the purchase citing the network was not as fast as I thought it would be. They sent me proof in the order process that the network was fine, just not the level I wanted it to be at. I then asked for refund for the sake of it. Viola! They refunded me and asked for a good review :D

    I also asked to cancel one of the servers I bought from iKoula. It had some trouble maintaining online as my port 22 monitoring service sent me disconnection from time to time. They eventually canceled AND refunded the whole month that I did not ask for.

    They both were running BF promotion. I believe they have similar or more restrictive TOS than GC.

    That’s a favor, not an obligation.
    According to GC 's TOS, no refund, that's all.
    Dont bring up irrelevant things.

    According to OVH's and iKoula 's TOS, no refund, that's all, as well.
    This is never irrelevant. Rather, this is EVERY PROVIDER here should learn to go bigger. Do not fight with small clients for small $$ for god's sake. Dang!

    Well if you think OVH and iKoula has better TOS or doing better favors than GreenCloud, just keep buying from them not GreenCloud.

    Problem solved

    Your interpretation is the problem.
    OVH and iKoula has no better TOS. And they yet refunded me $$ out of good will. If you want a bigger picture, you should do the same or more. That's what I am saying.

    That's good for you when OVH or iKoula did that, but it might not be feasible in every provider's case. If we make an exception this time, there would be numerous requests from MJJs to change location, refund, etc., as they will focus on why we accepted A's request but not B's. Since A will normally share the story on a local forum, a lot of Bs will follow suit.

    But what OP highlighted is that it is somewhat ambiguous what happens after submitting a request for cancellation (i.e., is it just a request that will only be confirmed after reviewing the reason?). So what you should do is update that interface to make it clear that the reason might not be read at all, and that the cancellation is fully automated. If you do that, then there is no way that Bs will follow with the same story.

    Or maybe people should put into that text box: "By accepting this cancellation request, you also agree to a full refund"

    You expect a lot from people

    • to read

    If they could, it would have been a different world

  • Can we close this thread and call it a day? Please?

  • zhujizixunzhujizixun Member
    edited December 2025

    I don’t even need to read the details to guess that it must be one of our Chinese newbies again — unable to tell the difference between cancellation and refund. Your English skills still need improvement. If you’re a beginner, you should seek help from the community instead of confidently trying to handle everything on your own.

    Some people just love to break the rules and act arrogantly. The promotional item clearly isn’t eligible for refunds, yet he insists on getting one — truly rebellious to the core.

    Next up, you’ll probably run into a PayPal subscription. And once the automatic payment goes through, I’m sure you’ll pop up again, loudly accusing the merchant of “stealing” your money — as if you hadn’t clicked anything yourself.

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  • @Tange said:

    @NDTN said:

    That's good for you when OVH or iKoula did that, but it might not be feasible in every provider's case. If we make an exception this time, there would be numerous requests from MJJs to change location, refund, etc., as they will focus on why we accepted A's request but not B's. Since A will normally share the story on a local forum, a lot of Bs will follow suit.

    write Chinese warning on the order page, that gonna help a lot

    many Chinese can't speak English, they just fallow some tutorials to order

    If you don't understand English and have to use "some tutorial" even to order, isn't it the responsibility of those tutorials to point out what is being said, what the ToS are, etc?

    What's next, some upset MJJ who is offended that OS images are not offered in Chinese and using that as an excuse to cancel?

    When I go to a restaurant in China that only advertises in Chinese, has a website and menu in Chinese, and I'm trying to order something using some tutorial, is the restaurant to blame when I don't get what I wanted (but have ordered)?

    Thanked by 1tentor
  • kenjing789kenjing789 Member
    edited December 2025

    @Tange said:

    @NDTN said:

    That's good for you when OVH or iKoula did that, but it might not be feasible in every provider's case. If we make an exception this time, there would be numerous requests from MJJs to change location, refund, etc., as they will focus on why we accepted A's request but not B's. Since A will normally share the story on a local forum, a lot of Bs will follow suit.

    write Chinese warning on the order page, that gonna help a lot

    many Chinese can't speak English, they just fallow some tutorials to order

    "I don't understand what the fuck are my provider saying and doing but i want all the unsustain unreasonable VPS deal and they have stfo and bow before me because i'm customer"

    No thanks, if don't understand anything and still order, you deserved it. That consequence and karma.

    Thanked by 1op23
  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR
    edited December 2025

    Hi,

    sorry i was too lazy to read 6 pages, probably without too much breaking news, can someone please tell me if:

    1. OP asked to have the service reinstated if a refund is not possible?
    2. did the hoster reinstate the service after the OP pointed out that he was unaware of the TOS refusing refunds in this situation?

    If yes: nothing happend, good hoster

    If no because 1. did not happen: customer = problem
    If no because 2. did not happen: hoster = problem

    Thanked by 1yongsiklee
  • Chinese? GTFO

  • @layer7 said: OP asked to have the service reinstated if a refund is not possible?

    No, but he was told by support that it cost 5$ to reinstated and he ignored all of those.
    Also few people told him he can pay 5$ and try to transfer this server to get all/most of the money back - also ignored.

    @layer7 said: did the hoster reinstate the service after the OP pointed out that he was unaware of the TOS refusing refunds in this situation?

    No as first was no also.

    OP is on a mission, on a mission to create chaos rather than resolve an issue.

    Thanked by 2layer7 op23
  • @b00n said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @NDTN said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @barbaros said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @lowendclient said:

    @yongsiklee said:

    @Arirang said:
    Cancellation ≠ Refund.

    I bought/rented a few servers from OVH us and iKoula from France to take advantage of BF.

    I asked to cancel one of their servers from us OVH, a few days from the purchase citing the network was not as fast as I thought it would be. They sent me proof in the order process that the network was fine, just not the level I wanted it to be at. I then asked for refund for the sake of it. Viola! They refunded me and asked for a good review :D

    I also asked to cancel one of the servers I bought from iKoula. It had some trouble maintaining online as my port 22 monitoring service sent me disconnection from time to time. They eventually canceled AND refunded the whole month that I did not ask for.

    They both were running BF promotion. I believe they have similar or more restrictive TOS than GC.

    That’s a favor, not an obligation.
    According to GC 's TOS, no refund, that's all.
    Dont bring up irrelevant things.

    According to OVH's and iKoula 's TOS, no refund, that's all, as well.
    This is never irrelevant. Rather, this is EVERY PROVIDER here should learn to go bigger. Do not fight with small clients for small $$ for god's sake. Dang!

    Well if you think OVH and iKoula has better TOS or doing better favors than GreenCloud, just keep buying from them not GreenCloud.

    Problem solved

    Your interpretation is the problem.
    OVH and iKoula has no better TOS. And they yet refunded me $$ out of good will. If you want a bigger picture, you should do the same or more. That's what I am saying.

    That's good for you when OVH or iKoula did that, but it might not be feasible in every provider's case. If we make an exception this time, there would be numerous requests from MJJs to change location, refund, etc., as they will focus on why we accepted A's request but not B's. Since A will normally share the story on a local forum, a lot of Bs will follow suit.

    Any provider should not bring this kind of drama to show up here in the first place. Damage control in house is key to status quo. Everyone makes mistakes. Do not let everyone else know you made mistake.

    Agree, this is bad for reputation. I know Greencloud has a good reputation here. But reading things like this, does not help shaping (at least my) interpretation of flexibility nor reasonable behavior of a provider. Yes, there is TOS, but there is also reasonable and preventing garbage being spilled on a forum like this. Resolve the issue and move on to the next customer would my modus operandi.

    Sounds like another Greencloud bonus if this makes shitty clients with unreasonable expectations to skip them and save the hassle on you in the future.

  • @xvps said: claiming to work for GreenCloudVPS.

    Yep, I noticed that the other day too. I already flagged one of his posts reporting this but looks like no action was taken!

  • @layer7 said:
    Hi,

    sorry i was too lazy to read 6 pages, probably without too much breaking news, can someone please tell me if:

    1. OP asked to have the service reinstated if a refund is not possible?
    2. did the hoster reinstate the service after the OP pointed out that he was unaware of the TOS refusing refunds in this situation?

    If yes: nothing happend, good hoster

    If no because 1. did not happen: customer = problem
    If no because 2. did not happen: hoster = problem

    TLDR:

    Customer doesn't seem to want service reinstated. The customer failed to get docker working (they never actually specified how they messed that up) and so now they hate the provider.

    Their intention was only to get a refund despite the policy being no refunds.

    Provider has offered to recreate the cancelled vps for $5 admin fee. Customer just wants the refund that isn't on offer.

    Customer has been told the service could be transferred and several people said they wanted it, but customer doesn't want to go down that route because they only want a refund.

    Basically customer will not accept that the T&C's should apply to him.

    Thanked by 1layer7
  • another gpt summary, sohai

  • This problem hasn't been resolved yet? :#

  • I couldn't make it through page 2. Did I miss anything?

  • Cancellation ≠ Refund

    Thanked by 1nekomikoreimu
  • The point isn't that he is not a native english speaker, but is that he likes to use the fking llm generated content. Shame on MJJ

    Thanked by 1Marx
  • Always the same old story—seems folks don't care to read the terms before buying anything? Why, in a mutual agreement, should the other party bear the burden when you change your mind?

  • TangeTange Member
    edited December 2025

    I'm not saying who's right or wrong, I'm just trying to find a way to get fewer unreasonable customers like this.

    BTW, Canceling or terminating a non-refundable package is nonsense, as it can cause misunderstandings

  • bdlbdl Member
    edited December 2025

    OP:

    Thanked by 1TimboJones
  • Is there a service like fraud record but for MJJ?
    I think something like that could pretty useful.

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited December 2025

    @sweetbed

    You're wrong. THEY DID NOT CANCEL YOUR VPS, YOU CANCELLED IT (yes, that's yelling). You pressed the cancellation button.

    @sweetbed said: My whole point is that I wrote the letter asking whether I could refund when putting the cancellation request.

    &

    @sweetbed said: I input my requests and reasons for refund in the field labled "Reason for cancellation". And without any replies to my request, my service was cancelld and no refund.

    That's just a reason for cancellation comment, not a support ticket. They may read it, they may not (I assume most hosts don't - it’s just optional quick "goodbye" comment), but it was you who cancelled the VPS.
    You directly pressed the immediate cancellation button. Poof, gone... unless you had chosen cancellation after the billing term, which you clearly didn't.

    Thanked by 1lowendclient
  • @layer7 said:
    Hi,

    sorry i was too lazy to read 6 pages, probably without too much breaking news, can someone please tell me if:

    1. OP asked to have the service reinstated if a refund is not possible?
    2. did the hoster reinstate the service after the OP pointed out that he was unaware of the TOS refusing refunds in this situation?

    If yes: nothing happend, good hoster

    If no because 1. did not happen: customer = problem
    If no because 2. did not happen: hoster = problem

    OP deleted his VPS by himself.
    Nothing else.

This discussion has been closed.