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netcup Adventskalender 2025

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    rigged, its midnight, and next door still not open.

  • @Neoon said:
    rigged, its midnight, and next door still not open.

    next door opens at 8am cet.

  • @loay said:

    @harrison said:
    Today, they have a 35% discount on .net domains, but, the asking price is €1.39 per month (?) . Counted yearly, it would be €16.68, which is more expensive than say, Spaceship

    Don’t buy domains from netcup unless they are freely included on their hosting plans. They do not offer full whois privacy and the dns management is very bad.

    How is their WHOIS privacy lacking?

    Does that apply to .de registrations as well or mainly .com?

  • @JosephF said:

    @loay said:

    @harrison said:
    Today, they have a 35% discount on .net domains, but, the asking price is €1.39 per month (?) . Counted yearly, it would be €16.68, which is more expensive than say, Spaceship

    Don’t buy domains from netcup unless they are freely included on their hosting plans. They do not offer full whois privacy and the dns management is very bad.

    How is their WHOIS privacy lacking?

    Does that apply to .de registrations as well or mainly .com?

    WHOIS data is considered private data per GDPR but not proxied like spaceship. Info like country code are public for individual accounts. They are also a resellers and more expensive than most registrars except for: de, ch, at, eu, biz, com, org and net only as part of the included domains in the hosting plans not if they are bought separately.

  • @loay said:

    @harrison said:
    Today, they have a 35% discount on .net domains, but, the asking price is €1.39 per month (?) . Counted yearly, it would be €16.68, which is more expensive than say, Spaceship

    Don’t buy domains from netcup unless they are freely included on their hosting plans. They do not offer full whois privacy and the dns management is very bad.

    What about .de domains from netcup?

    I use desec.io for dns. It's very good.

  • @itachikonoha said:

    @loay said:

    @harrison said:
    Today, they have a 35% discount on .net domains, but, the asking price is €1.39 per month (?) . Counted yearly, it would be €16.68, which is more expensive than say, Spaceship

    Don’t buy domains from netcup unless they are freely included on their hosting plans. They do not offer full whois privacy and the dns management is very bad.

    What about .de domains from netcup?

    I use desec.io for dns. It's very good.

    It’s a ccTLD so things with WHOIS data is different and it is more private by default. They are the cheapest provider for .de domains especially with the hosting plans.

  • Guys, am I right that netsted virtualization is disabled on nectup vps?
    Does anyone know if it can be enabled via a ticket or not?

  • @fohadeel do you work for netcup?

  • @SashkaPro said:
    Guys, am I right that netsted virtualization is disabled on nectup vps?
    Does anyone know if it can be enabled via a ticket or not?

    you will need to pay per core to get them enabled in ticket!

  • @SashkaPro said:
    Guys, am I right that netsted virtualization is disabled on nectup vps?
    Does anyone know if it can be enabled via a ticket or not?

    https://helpcenter.netcup.com/en/wiki/server#frequently-asked-questions-faq

    Using your own virtualization solutions on our servers is only possible to a limited extent. Activating nested virtualization (e.g., via the SVM flag) can lead to problems at the processor level and thus affect all customers who share the same instance. For security and stability reasons, the SVM flag is therefore disabled on our systems and cannot be activated.

    Thanked by 1SashkaPro
  • @ehab said: @fohadeel do you work for netcup?

    I wish

  • nick_nick_ Member
    edited December 2025

    Could someone explain what a 3-month contract means? Given it's 5.75 eur monthly, do I have to pay 5.75 eur monthly for 3 month or 17.25 eur every 3 months?

  • Accounting period is 3 months in advance. So you have to pay every 3 months, and you can cancel every 3 months as well.

    Yabs of VPS 1000 G12 Pro (Not really different from previous gen IMO) :

        # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
        #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
        #                     v2025-04-20                    #
        # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
        # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
        Tue Dec  9 09:37:37 AM CET 2025
    
        Basic System Information:
        ---------------------------------
        Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 8 minutes
        Processor  : AMD EPYC-Genoa Processor
        CPU cores  : 4 @ 2296.550 MHz
        AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
        VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
        RAM        : 7.8 GiB
        Swap       : 0.0 KiB
        Disk       : 503.9 GiB
        Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)
        Kernel     : 6.12.57+deb13-amd64
        VM Type    : KVM
        IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
        IPv6 Network Information:
        ---------------------------------
        ISP        : netcup GmbH
        ASN        : AS197540 netcup GmbH
        Host       : Netcup KVM VIE
        Location   : Vienna, Vienna (9)
        Country    : Austria
    
        fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda4):
        ---------------------------------
        Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
          ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
        Read       | 180.89 MB/s  (45.2k) | 1.16 GB/s    (18.2k)
        Write      | 181.37 MB/s  (45.3k) | 1.17 GB/s    (18.3k)
        Total      | 362.26 MB/s  (90.5k) | 2.34 GB/s    (36.6k)
                   |                      |                     
        Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
          ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
        Read       | 590.08 MB/s   (1.1k) | 532.13 MB/s    (519)
        Write      | 621.43 MB/s   (1.2k) | 567.57 MB/s    (554)
        Total      | 1.21 GB/s     (2.3k) | 1.09 GB/s     (1.0k)
    
        iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
        ---------------------------------
        Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
        -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
        Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.71 Gbits/sec  | 2.34 Gbits/sec  | 17.2 ms        
        Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 2.69 Gbits/sec  | 2.34 Gbits/sec  | 10.2 ms        
        Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 148 Mbits/sec   | 1.58 Gbits/sec  | 82.0 ms        
        Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 1.30 Gbits/sec  | 230 Mbits/sec   | 156 ms         
        Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.12 Gbits/sec  | 986 Mbits/sec   | 159 ms         
        Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.51 Gbits/sec  | 1.15 Gbits/sec  | 103 ms         
        Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 2.18 Gbits/sec  | 1.36 Gbits/sec  | 217 ms         
    
        iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
        ---------------------------------
        Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
        -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
        Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.69 Gbits/sec  | 2.31 Gbits/sec  | 17.2 ms        
        Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 2.72 Gbits/sec  | 2.32 Gbits/sec  | 10.3 ms        
        Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 2.43 Gbits/sec  | 1.37 Gbits/sec  | 81.8 ms        
        Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 1.12 Gbits/sec  | 517 Mbits/sec   | 156 ms         
        Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.11 Gbits/sec  | 877 Mbits/sec   | 159 ms         
        Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.48 Gbits/sec  | 1.83 Gbits/sec  | 103 ms         
        Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 2.12 Gbits/sec  | 771 Mbits/sec   | 217 ms         
    
        Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
        ---------------------------------
        Test            | Value                         
                        |                               
        Single Core     | 1661                          
        Multi Core      | 5434                          
        Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/15471394
    
        YABS completed in 12 min 43 sec
    
    Thanked by 2nick_ SashkaPro
  • @nick_ said:
    Could someone explain what a 3-month contract means? Given it's 5.75 eur monthly, do I have to pay 5.75 eur monthly for 3 month or 17.25 eur every 3 months?

    At netcup, you always need to look at both Minimum contract period and Billing period

    In the case of that product, both of these periods are 3 months

    Thanked by 2nick_ nghialele
  • @pbx said: Single Core | 1661

    Multi Core | 5434

    shit like this is why i moved to bero host. i pay 4 euros extra for 16GB more ram and 2 more cores

    Thanked by 1itachikonoha
  • @Protocol903 said:

    @pbx said: Single Core | 1661

    Multi Core | 5434

    shit like this is why i moved to bero host. i pay 4 euros extra for 16GB more ram and 2 more cores

    Bero is <3

    Thanked by 3Protocol903 loay tux
  • @Protocol903 said:

    @pbx said: Single Core | 1661

    Multi Core | 5434

    shit like this is why i moved to bero host. i pay 4 euros extra for 16GB more ram and 2 more cores

    I’m looking at both and I’m confused here, aren’t bero packages shared CPUs vs dedicated here? Are the cpu scores in the yabs really that bad?

  • @op23 said:

    @Protocol903 said:

    @pbx said: Single Core | 1661

    Multi Core | 5434

    shit like this is why i moved to bero host. i pay 4 euros extra for 16GB more ram and 2 more cores

    I’m looking at both and I’m confused here, aren’t bero packages shared CPUs vs dedicated here? Are the cpu scores in the yabs really that bad?

    I don't think that you're missing anything

    As you probably know, some (many?) users here seem to be obsessed with GB scores

    Indeed, those GB scores aren't bad

    Thanked by 1op23
  • @Protocol903 said:

    @pbx said: Single Core | 1661

    Multi Core | 5434

    shit like this is why i moved to bero host. i pay 4 euros extra for 16GB more ram and 2 more cores

    BF deal? It's not fair comparison because regular price at Berohost for 4C8G250G is around 26 EUR and 39 EUR for 500G disk. At netcup you can get these deals several times per year and their regular offers are still competitive.

  • @op23 said:

    @Protocol903 said:

    @pbx said: Single Core | 1661

    Multi Core | 5434

    shit like this is why i moved to bero host. i pay 4 euros extra for 16GB more ram and 2 more cores

    I’m looking at both and I’m confused here, aren’t bero packages shared CPUs vs dedicated here? Are the cpu scores in the yabs really that bad?

    In terms of computation, what netcup is offering = 60% of what Bero offers.

    So let's say I need to do do a heavy computation such as AI transcribing or transcoding, then I can match the whole dedicated core cpu of netcup by allowing just 60% of what Bero cpu.

    .... But Bero also allows a few hours of bursting to full usage of 100% without putting limitations.

    So what I can achieve in netcup in llets say 8-9 hours, the same task I can do it in Bero in roughly 4.5 - 5 hours.

    The more work you have, the difference becomes bigger and bigger.

    Value of dedicated core is meaningless until you take performance of shared cores in to account.

    Thanked by 3op23 Protocol903 tux
  • Is berohost better than netcup?

  • @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    Is berohost better than netcup?

    Depends on your requirements.

    For projects not requiring heavy computation but more bandwith, netcup is the way to go.

    For raw power while staying in vps territory.and not much bandwidth requirement, then Bero

  • @itachikonoha said:

    @op23 said:

    @Protocol903 said:

    @pbx said: Single Core | 1661

    Multi Core | 5434

    shit like this is why i moved to bero host. i pay 4 euros extra for 16GB more ram and 2 more cores

    I’m looking at both and I’m confused here, aren’t bero packages shared CPUs vs dedicated here? Are the cpu scores in the yabs really that bad?

    In terms of computation, what netcup is offering = 60% of what Bero offers.

    So let's say I need to do do a heavy computation such as AI transcribing or transcoding, then I can match the whole dedicated core cpu of netcup by allowing just 60% of what Bero cpu.

    .... But Bero also allows a few hours of bursting to full usage of 100% without putting limitations.

    So what I can achieve in netcup in llets say 8-9 hours, the same task I can do it in Bero in roughly 4.5 - 5 hours.

    The more work you have, the difference becomes bigger and bigger.

    Value of dedicated core is meaningless until you take performance of shared cores in to account.

    Hmm, tbh netcup also offered a 6 core cpu option with comparable cost during BF deals but bero seems to have a lot more ram.

    Ya know what, I’m just gonna replace my old stuff with these two and try both. Both seem pretty solid to me but for different reasons. Thanks to you and angstrom for the feedback.

    Thanked by 2jnd angstrom
  • @op23 said: I’m looking at both and I’m confused here, aren’t bero packages shared CPUs vs dedicated here? Are the cpu scores in the yabs really that bad?

    Not just bad. Netcup has degraded over the months and it once used to be 6k under the load and has went as bad as 4.5k under idle(including noticable performance dip in both CPU and IO). When I contacted their support asking what is going on, they said that the performance was within expected range AFTER making me go through their rescue mode BS and running yabs 10 times and some other bs benchmark.

    While on the other hand with Bero, I once had performance dip from 8.5k GB6 to 7.1K with visible increase in CPU steal in my Grafana, I asked via their support about this and a few back and forth later(took a total of 2 days), they moved me to a different node where performance fully restored(9k+, 4C).

    This is the stark difference why Bero is better than Netcup.


    @angstrom said: Indeed, those GB scores aren't bad

    If the bar is that low, that it indeed is very good.

    @angstrom said: As you probably know, some (many?) users here seem to be obsessed with GB scores

    Not just score, real, visible, real world performance being impacted even after paying 8.75 euros a month.

    Thanked by 2itachikonoha op23
  • https://www.netcup.com/en/server/root-server/rs-1000-g12-iv-ultra-nue-adv25

    RS 1000 G12 Ultra is available again, +50% cores, +50% RAM, +100% storage, +28% price

    Thanked by 2Smigit op23
  • @Protocol903 said:

    @op23 said: I’m looking at both and I’m confused here, aren’t bero packages shared CPUs vs dedicated here? Are the cpu scores in the yabs really that bad?

    Not just bad. Netcup has degraded over the months and it once used to be 6k under the load and has went as bad as 4.5k under idle(including noticable performance dip in both CPU and IO). When I contacted their support asking what is going on, they said that the performance was within expected range AFTER making me go through their rescue mode BS and running yabs 10 times and some other bs benchmark.

    While on the other hand with Bero, I once had performance dip from 8.5k GB6 to 7.1K with visible increase in CPU steal in my Grafana, I asked via their support about this and a few back and forth later(took a total of 2 days), they moved me to a different node where performance fully restored(9k+, 4C).

    This is the stark difference why Bero is better than Netcup.


    @angstrom said: Indeed, those GB scores aren't bad

    If the bar is that low, that it indeed is very good.

    @angstrom said: As you probably know, some (many?) users here seem to be obsessed with GB scores

    Not just score, real, visible, real world performance being impacted even after paying 8.75 euros a month.

    Apart from geekbench, have you actually noticed any slowdowns for tasks being run on the server?

  • Protocol903Protocol903 Member
    edited December 2025

    @op23 said: Apart from geekbench, have you actually noticed any slowdowns for tasks being run on the server?

    Yes. Jellyfin ocassional single streaming transcoding where cpu steal would max at 0.6% at first few months vs 8-9% over last months before i cancelled and somehow this is "within performance parameter". Stream being slow.

    Wordpress website with like 6 plugins(nothing heavy, no woocommerce bullshit) taking forever to load.

    IO speed significantly varying to the point I had to disable the default swap(or something like 2GB i may have manually set?).

    network inconsistency with their pings all over the place.(Austria region. this was a bit after the euro-asia cable cut was fixed), ipv6 latency being 259ms vs ipv4 being 170ms.

    network to asia varying too much for comfort.

    The same doesnt happen with bero?

    Thanked by 1op23
  • Is there any likelihood one of the daily promos will be for the discounted approximately €1 monthly VPS (annually billed/contracted)?

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    Is berohost better than netcup?

    for what? they are both stable.
    Performance wise, Bero had better deals, specially yearlies.

    Thanked by 1ariq01
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