netcup Adventskalender 2025

OpaqueRegistrant · December 2025

@jsg said:
I largely share your attitude - but kindly note what @Rubben quoted from my user page (it seems to be a verbatim quote/copy-paste). I did not try to change something to something different. All I wanted was to have the same I've had for years and I'd continue to have (with my "old" server). All that had changed was a new (and more expensive) server and what I wanted was to continue making payments twice a year only instead of monthly (a) just as I had done for years, and (b) because I'm a developer and not an accountant (~ don't enjoy and don't want to be bothered by monthly payments). And btw (c) the vast majority of providers like longer term (pre-) payments.
Also, while ignorantly declining semi-annual payments for the new server they did insist on (a final) semi-annual payment for the "old" server.

TL;DR The netcup thing is not about wanting special conditions, it's about their utter ignorance and disrespect of customers, even long-term ones.

Hence: stay way from netcup!

Sounds typically German. Every true German understands the rules in excruciating detail and will do everything to fuck you over without breaking the rules themselves.

jsg · December 2025

@OpaqueRegistrant said:

@jsg said:
I largely share your attitude - but kindly note what @Rubben quoted from my user page (it seems to be a verbatim quote/copy-paste). I did not try to change something to something different. All I wanted was to have the same I've had for years and I'd continue to have (with my "old" server). All that had changed was a new (and more expensive) server and what I wanted was to continue making payments twice a year only instead of monthly (a) just as I had done for years, and (b) because I'm a developer and not an accountant (~ don't enjoy and don't want to be bothered by monthly payments). And btw (c) the vast majority of providers like longer term (pre-) payments.
Also, while ignorantly declining semi-annual payments for the new server they did insist on (a final) semi-annual payment for the "old" server.

TL;DR The netcup thing is not about wanting special conditions, it's about their utter ignorance and disrespect of customers, even long-term ones.

Hence: stay way from netcup!

Sounds typically German. Every true German understands the rules in excruciating detail and will do everything to fuck you over without breaking the rules themselves.

BS! Germans tend to be bureaucratic, yes, but your generalization is not tenable.

OpaqueRegistrant · December 2025

@jsg said:

@OpaqueRegistrant said:

@jsg said:
I largely share your attitude - but kindly note what @Rubben quoted from my user page (it seems to be a verbatim quote/copy-paste). I did not try to change something to something different. All I wanted was to have the same I've had for years and I'd continue to have (with my "old" server). All that had changed was a new (and more expensive) server and what I wanted was to continue making payments twice a year only instead of monthly (a) just as I had done for years, and (b) because I'm a developer and not an accountant (~ don't enjoy and don't want to be bothered by monthly payments). And btw (c) the vast majority of providers like longer term (pre-) payments.
Also, while ignorantly declining semi-annual payments for the new server they did insist on (a final) semi-annual payment for the "old" server.

TL;DR The netcup thing is not about wanting special conditions, it's about their utter ignorance and disrespect of customers, even long-term ones.

Hence: stay way from netcup!

Sounds typically German. Every true German understands the rules in excruciating detail and will do everything to fuck you over without breaking the rules themselves.

BS! Germans tend to be bureaucratic, yes, but your generalization is not tenable.

In my experience it's extremely typical in businesses. Individuals don't do it so much because it takes a lot of time to study the rules in such detail, unless they are lawyers or businesspeople.

ralf · December 2025

I guess the RAM price effect is really kicking in. Today they're trying to flog some crappy mug, the kind that normally gets given away at promo events... for over €20.

angstrom · December 2025

@ralf said:
I guess the RAM price effect is really kicking in. Today they're trying to flog some crappy mug, the kind that normally gets given away at promo events... for over €20.

Hey, at least the postage is free (delivery restricted to the EU)!

hyperblast · December 2025

@netcup professionals: Webhosting 4000 recommended? if yes what location? nuremberg or austria?

loay · December 2025

@hyperblast said:
@netcup professionals: Webhosting 4000 recommended? if yes what location? nuremberg or austria?

Good value for the included domains and storage space. They use modified and very restricted plesk, and it is very buggy. And with netcup support even contacting them in German are not helpful.

hyperblast · December 2025

@loay said:

@hyperblast said:
@netcup professionals: Webhosting 4000 recommended? if yes what location? nuremberg or austria?

Good value for the included domains and storage space. They use modified and very restricted plesk, and it is very buggy. And with netcup support even contacting them in German are not helpful.

want to transfer 2 .ch domains (=14,28€/year) and use webhostng 4000 only for email...
3,76*12=45,12€ - saved costs for 2x .ch 14,28€/year = 30,84€/year ... 2,57€ per month!

harrison · December 2025

@itachikonoha said:
only .de domain deals are attractive. rest are just same offers recycled.

Where is it? No such deal in first 5 days, or do you mean it shows up in next days?

loay · December 2025

@hyperblast said:

@loay said:

@hyperblast said:
@netcup professionals: Webhosting 4000 recommended? if yes what location? nuremberg or austria?

Good value for the included domains and storage space. They use modified and very restricted plesk, and it is very buggy. And with netcup support even contacting them in German are not helpful.

want to transfer 2 .ch domains (=14,28€/year) and use webhostng 4000 only for email...
3,76*12=45,12€ - saved costs for 2x .ch 14,28€/year = 30,84€/year ... 2,57€ per month!

Yes, it’s very good deal. I have tried their email and it has been very reliable for the last year.

angstrom · December 2025

@hyperblast said:

@loay said:

@hyperblast said:
@netcup professionals: Webhosting 4000 recommended? if yes what location? nuremberg or austria?

Good value for the included domains and storage space. They use modified and very restricted plesk, and it is very buggy. And with netcup support even contacting them in German are not helpful.

want to transfer 2 .ch domains (=14,28€/year) and use webhostng 4000 only for email...
3,76*12=45,12€ - saved costs for 2x .ch 14,28€/year = 30,84€/year ... 2,57€ per month!

If I'm not mistaken, you'll first need to transfer the two .ch domains to netcup, for which you'll need to pay the current domain-transfer price

After the transfer has succeeded, you can add the two .ch domains to your Webhosting plan, and from then on, they'll be included in the price of the Webhosting plan

In general, for their Webhosting plans, netcup make a sharp difference between "internal domains" and "external domains", a difference that is important to understand if one wants to avoid unnecessary disappointment/frustration

loay · December 2025

@angstrom said:

@hyperblast said:

@loay said:

@hyperblast said:
@netcup professionals: Webhosting 4000 recommended? if yes what location? nuremberg or austria?

Good value for the included domains and storage space. They use modified and very restricted plesk, and it is very buggy. And with netcup support even contacting them in German are not helpful.

want to transfer 2 .ch domains (=14,28€/year) and use webhostng 4000 only for email...
3,76*12=45,12€ - saved costs for 2x .ch 14,28€/year = 30,84€/year ... 2,57€ per month!

If I'm not mistaken, you'll first need to transfer the two .ch domains to netcup, for which you'll need to pay the current domain-transfer price

After the transfer has succeeded, you can add the two .ch domains to your Webhosting plan, and from then on, they'll be included in the price of the Webhosting plan

In general, for their Webhosting plans, netcup make a sharp difference between "internal domains" and "external domains", a difference that is important to understand if one wants to avoid unnecessary disappointment/frustration

He can transfer them as included domains (without paying for the transfer) and they will renew normally with the hosting plan as included “internal” domains. Only problem I found with external domains, is that you need to add all of their dns records for verification before it is being part of the hosting plan, I prefer using cloudflare and hiding origin server ip so this is not very convenient for me.

angstrom · December 2025

@angstrom said:

@hyperblast said:

@loay said:

@hyperblast said:
@netcup professionals: Webhosting 4000 recommended? if yes what location? nuremberg or austria?

Good value for the included domains and storage space. They use modified and very restricted plesk, and it is very buggy. And with netcup support even contacting them in German are not helpful.

want to transfer 2 .ch domains (=14,28€/year) and use webhostng 4000 only for email...
3,76*12=45,12€ - saved costs for 2x .ch 14,28€/year = 30,84€/year ... 2,57€ per month!

If I'm not mistaken, you'll first need to transfer the two .ch domains to netcup, for which you'll need to pay the current domain-transfer price

After the transfer has succeeded, you can add the two .ch domains to your Webhosting plan, and from then on, they'll be included in the price of the Webhosting plan

In general, for their Webhosting plans, netcup make a sharp difference between "internal domains" and "external domains", a difference that is important to understand if one wants to avoid unnecessary disappointment/frustration

Some advice: if you want to order a Webhosting plan today but the two domains that you want to add aren't yet at netcup, then don't yet add any (internal) domains to the plan at the time of ordering: you can add them later, once they've been transferred to netcup

In general, once you add an internal domain to a Webhosting plan, you can't easily replace that particular internal domain with another internal domain

angstrom · December 2025

@loay said:

@angstrom said:

@hyperblast said:

@loay said:

@hyperblast said:
@netcup professionals: Webhosting 4000 recommended? if yes what location? nuremberg or austria?

Good value for the included domains and storage space. They use modified and very restricted plesk, and it is very buggy. And with netcup support even contacting them in German are not helpful.

want to transfer 2 .ch domains (=14,28€/year) and use webhostng 4000 only for email...
3,76*12=45,12€ - saved costs for 2x .ch 14,28€/year = 30,84€/year ... 2,57€ per month!

If I'm not mistaken, you'll first need to transfer the two .ch domains to netcup, for which you'll need to pay the current domain-transfer price

After the transfer has succeeded, you can add the two .ch domains to your Webhosting plan, and from then on, they'll be included in the price of the Webhosting plan

In general, for their Webhosting plans, netcup make a sharp difference between "internal domains" and "external domains", a difference that is important to understand if one wants to avoid unnecessary disappointment/frustration

He can transfer them as included domains (without paying for the transfer) and they will renew normally with the hosting plan as included “internal” domains. Only problem I found with external domains, is that you need to add all of their dns records for verification before it is being part of the hosting plan, I prefer using cloudflare and hiding origin server ip so this is not very convenient for me.

Thanks for this clarification. (I wasn't completely certain about this detail, which is why I wrote "If I'm not mistaken" )

But, yes, both internal and external domains need to use netcup's DNS

(I have two Webhosting plans at netcup, but the internal domains of these plans were already at netcup when I purchased the plans)

angstrom · December 2025

@angstrom said:

@angstrom said:

@hyperblast said:

@loay said:

@hyperblast said:
@netcup professionals: Webhosting 4000 recommended? if yes what location? nuremberg or austria?

Good value for the included domains and storage space. They use modified and very restricted plesk, and it is very buggy. And with netcup support even contacting them in German are not helpful.

want to transfer 2 .ch domains (=14,28€/year) and use webhostng 4000 only for email...
3,76*12=45,12€ - saved costs for 2x .ch 14,28€/year = 30,84€/year ... 2,57€ per month!

If I'm not mistaken, you'll first need to transfer the two .ch domains to netcup, for which you'll need to pay the current domain-transfer price

After the transfer has succeeded, you can add the two .ch domains to your Webhosting plan, and from then on, they'll be included in the price of the Webhosting plan

In general, for their Webhosting plans, netcup make a sharp difference between "internal domains" and "external domains", a difference that is important to understand if one wants to avoid unnecessary disappointment/frustration

Some advice: if you want to order a Webhosting plan today but the two domains that you want to add aren't yet at netcup, then don't yet add any (internal) domains to the plan at the time of ordering: you can add them later, once they've been transferred to netcup

Just to correct myself (based on what @loay said): if netcup allow you to enter the two desired .ch domains as internal domains at time of ordering the Webhosting plan, then this is what you should do

itachikonoha · December 2025

@angstrom said:

@angstrom said:

@angstrom said:

@hyperblast said:

@loay said:

@hyperblast said:
@netcup professionals: Webhosting 4000 recommended? if yes what location? nuremberg or austria?

Good value for the included domains and storage space. They use modified and very restricted plesk, and it is very buggy. And with netcup support even contacting them in German are not helpful.

want to transfer 2 .ch domains (=14,28€/year) and use webhostng 4000 only for email...
3,76*12=45,12€ - saved costs for 2x .ch 14,28€/year = 30,84€/year ... 2,57€ per month!

If I'm not mistaken, you'll first need to transfer the two .ch domains to netcup, for which you'll need to pay the current domain-transfer price

After the transfer has succeeded, you can add the two .ch domains to your Webhosting plan, and from then on, they'll be included in the price of the Webhosting plan

In general, for their Webhosting plans, netcup make a sharp difference between "internal domains" and "external domains", a difference that is important to understand if one wants to avoid unnecessary disappointment/frustration

Some advice: if you want to order a Webhosting plan today but the two domains that you want to add aren't yet at netcup, then don't yet add any (internal) domains to the plan at the time of ordering: you can add them later, once they've been transferred to netcup

Just to correct myself (based on what @loay said): if netcup allow you to enter the two desired .ch domains as internal domains at time of ordering the Webhosting plan, then this is what you should do

Soooo complicated! Thank god i didn't buy even though it was very tempting.

radex · December 2025

I have deleted my netcup account end of 2024. Tried to create new one 2 times, nothing. No Email, No Notification. Silence block

angstrom · December 2025

@itachikonoha said:

@angstrom said:

@angstrom said:

@angstrom said:

@hyperblast said:

@loay said:

@hyperblast said:
@netcup professionals: Webhosting 4000 recommended? if yes what location? nuremberg or austria?

Good value for the included domains and storage space. They use modified and very restricted plesk, and it is very buggy. And with netcup support even contacting them in German are not helpful.

want to transfer 2 .ch domains (=14,28€/year) and use webhostng 4000 only for email...
3,76*12=45,12€ - saved costs for 2x .ch 14,28€/year = 30,84€/year ... 2,57€ per month!

If I'm not mistaken, you'll first need to transfer the two .ch domains to netcup, for which you'll need to pay the current domain-transfer price

After the transfer has succeeded, you can add the two .ch domains to your Webhosting plan, and from then on, they'll be included in the price of the Webhosting plan

In general, for their Webhosting plans, netcup make a sharp difference between "internal domains" and "external domains", a difference that is important to understand if one wants to avoid unnecessary disappointment/frustration

Some advice: if you want to order a Webhosting plan today but the two domains that you want to add aren't yet at netcup, then don't yet add any (internal) domains to the plan at the time of ordering: you can add them later, once they've been transferred to netcup

Just to correct myself (based on what @loay said): if netcup allow you to enter the two desired .ch domains as internal domains at time of ordering the Webhosting plan, then this is what you should do

Soooo complicated! Thank god i didn't buy even though it was very tempting.

The difference between "internal domains" and "external domains" seems to be a netcup specialty

It's pretty straightforward once you understand the difference, but for unsuspecting newcomers, this difference can cause unnecessary disappointment/frustration

hyperblast · December 2025

@angstrom said:

@hyperblast said:

@loay said:

@hyperblast said:
@netcup professionals: Webhosting 4000 recommended? if yes what location? nuremberg or austria?

Good value for the included domains and storage space. They use modified and very restricted plesk, and it is very buggy. And with netcup support even contacting them in German are not helpful.

want to transfer 2 .ch domains (=14,28€/year) and use webhostng 4000 only for email...
3,76*12=45,12€ - saved costs for 2x .ch 14,28€/year = 30,84€/year ... 2,57€ per month!

If I'm not mistaken, you'll first need to transfer the two .ch domains to netcup, for which you'll need to pay the current domain-transfer price

After the transfer has succeeded, you can add the two .ch domains to your Webhosting plan, and from then on, they'll be included in the price of the Webhosting plan

In general, for their Webhosting plans, netcup make a sharp difference between "internal domains" and "external domains", a difference that is important to understand if one wants to avoid unnecessary disappointment/frustration

the two .ch domains have already been ordered from netcup as individual domains and are stored in the netcup customer control center.

hyperblast · December 2025

which location is best? Nuremberg or Vienna?

hyperblast · December 2025

the web hosting 4000 plan can be combined with vouchers... Does anyone have any vouchers left that I could use?

hyperblast · December 2025

however, I decided against Webhsoting 4000 because adding external domains to the webhosting costs a one-time fee of €4.20 + VAT each. I don't like that.

angstrom · December 2025

@hyperblast said:
however, I decided against Webhsoting 4000 because adding external domains to the webhosting costs a one-time fee of €4.20 + VAT each. I don't like that.

Six external domains can be added for free to that plan. I guess that you would want to add more than six external domains?

hyperblast · December 2025

@angstrom said:

@hyperblast said:
however, I decided against Webhsoting 4000 because adding external domains to the webhosting costs a one-time fee of €4.20 + VAT each. I don't like that.

Six external domains can be added for free to that plan. I guess that you would want to add more than six external domains?

yes sir.

i use my existing package from all-inkl.com (premium), which, to my knowledge, allows me to add more domains at no additional cost.

rosch · December 2025

@Protocol903 said:
Their ultra lineup are bad news. Dont touch it.

@ralf said: RS 2000 G12 Ultra

If you calculate cost ratio wrt their monthly promo, normal RS 3000 or RS 2000 is more economically and price to spec wise.

Base Specs (all four)

RS 2000 G12
Price: 17.35 €
CPU: 8 vCores
RAM: 16 GB
Storage: 512 GB NVMe

RS 2000 G12 Pro
Price: 16.76 €
CPU: 8 vCores
RAM: 16 GB
Storage: 1 TB NVMe

RS 2000 G12 Ultra
Price: 24.18 €
CPU: 10 vCores
RAM: 24 GB
Storage: 1 TB NVMe

RS 4000 G12 Pro
Price: 31.63 €
CPU: 12 vCores
RAM: 32 GB
Storage: 2 TB NVME

RS 2000 G12 → RS 2000 G12 Pro

Price: 17.35 € → 16.76 € (−0.59 €, −3%)
CPU: 8 → 8 (no change)
RAM: 16 → 16 (no change)
Storage: 512 GB → 1 TB (+488 GB, +95%)

Interpretation
Same CPU and RAM, but Pro nearly doubles storage while being slightly cheaper.
Clear upgrade.

RS 2000 G12 → RS 2000 G12 Ultra

Price: 17.35 € → 24.18 € (+6.83 €, +39%)
CPU: 8 → 10 (+2 cores, +25%)
RAM: 16 → 24 (+8 GB, +50%)
Storage: 512 GB → 1 TB (+488 GB, +95%)

Interpretation
Major improvements across all resources: CPU +25%, RAM +50%, storage +95%.
Very strong jump per euro spent.

RS 2000 G12 → RS 4000 G12 Pro

Price: 17.35 € → 31.63 € (+14.28 €, +82%)
CPU: 8 → 12 (+4 cores, +50%)
RAM: 16 → 32 (+16 GB, +100%)
Storage: 512 GB → 2 TB (+1.5 TB, +293%)

Interpretation
Massive jump in all categories.
Price increases +82%, but storage increase is +293% and RAM +100%.

RS 2000 G12 Pro → RS 2000 G12 Ultra

Price: 16.76 € → 24.18 € (+7.42 €, +44%)
CPU: 8 → 10 (+25%)
RAM: 16 → 24 (+50%)
Storage: 1 TB → 1 TB (no change)

Interpretation
RAM increase is the most significant gain.
Worth it for memory-bound workloads.

RS 2000 G12 Pro → RS 4000 G12 Pro

Price: 16.76 € → 31.63 € (+14.87 €, +89%)
CPU: 8 → 12 (+4 cores, +50%)
RAM: 16 → 32 (+100%)
Storage: 1 TB → 2 TB (+1 TB, +100%)

Interpretation
Almost double the price but double RAM and storage. Good for high scaling.

RS 2000 G12 Ultra → RS 4000 G12 Pro

Price: 24.18 € → 31.63 € (+7.45 €, +31%)
CPU: 10 → 12 (+20%)
RAM: 24 → 32 (+33%)
Storage: 1 TB → 2 TB (+100%)

Interpretation
Storage makes the biggest difference (+100%).
Useful when your workload grows in disk usage.

Resource Efficiency (per €)

CPU per €
RS 2000 G12: 8 / 17.35 = 0.46
RS 2000 G12 Pro: 8 / 16.76 = 0.48
RS 2000 G12 Ultra: 10 / 24.18 = 0.41
RS 4000 G12 Pro: 12 / 31.63 = 0.38

RAM per €
RS 2000 G12: 16 / 17.35 = 0.92
RS 2000 G12 Pro: 16 / 16.76 = 0.96
RS 2000 G12 Ultra: 24 / 24.18 = 0.99
RS 4000 G12 Pro: 32 / 31.63 = 1.01

Storage per €
RS 2000 G12: 0.5 TB / 17.35 = 0.03
RS 2000 G12 Pro: 1 TB / 16.76 = 0.06
RS 2000 G12 Ultra: 1 TB / 24.18 = 0.04
RS 4000 G12 Pro: 2 TB / 31.63 = 0.06

RS 2000 G12
Weakest storage efficiency. Good entry point.

RS 2000 G12 Pro
Cheapest plan with strong storage-per-euro.
Best price-performance for light workloads.

RS 2000 G12 Ultra
Best balanced mid-tier.
Strong RAM jump and CPU upgrade.
Excellent for most production apps.

RS 4000 G12 Pro
Best RAM and storage efficiency.
Ideal for heavy scaling or DB-heavy workloads.

harrison · December 2025

Today, they have a 35% discount on .net domains, but, the asking price is €1.39 per month (?) . Counted yearly, it would be €16.68, which is more expensive than say, Spaceship

jnd · December 2025

@harrison said:
Today, they have a 35% discount on .net domains, but, the asking price is €1.39 per month (?) . Counted yearly, it would be €16.68, which is more expensive than say, Spaceship

That's the thing, outside of .de (which has setup fee instead) it's not any cheaper than having separately registered domain.

loay · December 2025

@harrison said:
Today, they have a 35% discount on .net domains, but, the asking price is €1.39 per month (?) . Counted yearly, it would be €16.68, which is more expensive than say, Spaceship

Don’t buy domains from netcup unless they are freely included on their hosting plans. They do not offer full whois privacy and the dns management is very bad.

rosch · December 2025

@loay said:

@harrison said:
Today, they have a 35% discount on .net domains, but, the asking price is €1.39 per month (?) . Counted yearly, it would be €16.68, which is more expensive than say, Spaceship

Don’t buy domains from netcup unless they are freely included on their hosting plans. They do not offer full whois privacy and the dns management is very bad.

where would you buy domains ?

LBF · December 2025

@rosch said:

@loay said:

@harrison said:
Today, they have a 35% discount on .net domains, but, the asking price is €1.39 per month (?) . Counted yearly, it would be €16.68, which is more expensive than say, Spaceship

Don’t buy domains from netcup unless they are freely included on their hosting plans. They do not offer full whois privacy and the dns management is very bad.

where would you buy domains ?

Cloudflare has very good whois privacy. Spaceship as well. I use both of those.

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