2025 Black Friday / Cyber Monday: FLASH SALE & MEGATHREAD - "The Trade War"

jnd · December 2025

@avsisp said:

@ralf said:

@avsisp said:

@Maki said:

@avsisp said:

@senos said:

@avsisp said:

@FAT32 said:

01/12 00:00

AVS ISP: 25€/yr 1TB SSD/NVME Unmetered Storage VPS in AL/UK(IE)

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

20GB NVMe (System) + 1TB SSD Storage

Unmetered @ 100Mbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: Albania

25€/yr

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

1TB NVMe Storage

Unmetered @ 1Gbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: UK with IPs Ireland Geo (IE)

25€/yr

Notes:

PayPal Only (All BF deals must be paid via PayPal)

Manual Setup: Setup is performed manually, usually within 1 hour (varies by time of purchase)

No Reservations: Cancelling at checkout does not reserve your slot. Your spot is ecured only after PayPal payment completion

Batch Processing: VPS servers are setup in batches. Account and VPS details will be emailed after setup is complete

Final Sale: Stock is extremely limited. Once sold out, these deals will NOT return. Payments are final. No refunds on promotions.

Paid but it did not ask for account registration. What next?

We work on Albanian Time, we have just woken up for the day here.

We are checking the orders now and having some coffee - then we will process them.

There may have been a glitch - I'm seeing multiple orders for the same product here. Some may be refunded. Only the first one will be accepted. (multiple people had the payment page already up when the first paid and locked it, so all of them that were on PayPal already paid. Which isn't an issue - it just means we will have to refund some, we obviously can't honor 16 storage deals that large due to a glitch).

The first ones of each will receive an email from support {at} avsisp.com asking for which OS and the email address on your account (if different than paypal). The others will receive a prompt refund.

Apologies for any delays. Posts here on LET may not align with our operating hours, of course - which may lead to slight delays between post / order and us processing them.

Thank you for understanding.

So that means only two orders will actually go through? I really thought this was going to be the best deal I snagged for BF2025. Thanks for the generosity anyway, and huge congrats to the two lucky winners !

Yes, of course - they were intended to be limit 1 of each deal. But what happened was LET people have those fast fingers and multiple of you opened the page at the exact same time, proceeded to PayPal at the exact same time, and paid at the exact same time before one paid and locked the page. Down to the ms, they were within 2ms of eachother which is insanely fast on you guy's part (I love the enthusiasm! Thanks for the support!).

Refunds have already been issued. I think it's better we don't post publicly the emails of the 2 that were actually first, so I'll just say to check if you were refunded. If you got a refund, you weren't the first. If you didn't see a refund, you were first and you'll get a support email shortly with questions on OS and account email.

Apologies again for this glitch.

Too bad for them, need to wait for more than month to get their money back, because of faulty system to not recheck things

It isn't a faulty system. It's PayPal themselves. We relied on their system to handle that. So now PayPal is a faulty system? Makes sense.... For sure..

As for a month, that's entirely incorrect.
1) if you paid with PayPal balance, it's instantly back
2) if you paid with linked bank, it's just cancelled and never gets pulled - no money ever moves
3) if you paid with card, it's instant for USA Visa/MC usually and for other countries or card types it's 3 days max, usually in 24 hours or less.

Again, apologies, but we had no way to control this glitch. You guys are just too fast - this isn't the first time this has happened in LET history. It's happened with WHMCS using hosts, hostbill hosts, etc. payments make it through but product OOS and then payment cancelled or refunded. It's quiet a normal glitch and isn't one that can be solved unless you're a bank with the computer processing payments directly connected to your website which would be illegal but yeah - 2ms isn't enough time for notifications to cut transactions to come. And if you're already on the payment page, PayPal is going to accept that payment, even if the order page is already disabled. That's a PayPal issue - not one we can control. And again, with 2ms differences in payment times, I'm not sure any system in the world could have stopped that glitch regardless. Try to ping your own phone from your laptop in the same house or something some time. That's 2ms or more...

You shouldn't be relying on the payment provider to marshall who got the deal first. If someone has got to the stage where they've already been offered a deal and paid the advertised price, you should honour it.

If you only have one deal to sell, you should raise the invoice to whoever gets there first, and you can do that locally and ensure there is only one. If they don't pay the invoice in a reasonable timeframe, then cancel the order and restart the offer.

Again, that wouldn't have worked in this case. They were 2ms apart. They were at the page at the same time. There's no way it could have been prevented. PayPal themselves didn't stop it - on WHMCS with a limit 1 product even we've had this happen before. So what you're saying is incorrect and isn't compatible with how programming, APIs, internet latency, etc work.

We did the responsible thing and refunded them because we don't oversell our servers. We can't very-well sell 16TB of space when we can't guarantee that much space on the servers.

Apologies again to anyone refunded. But in the end, there was not other options for us but to handle it responsibly and give people their money back. We aren't some shady host that will oversell it rediculously to make a quick buck. We try to be responsible and not to oversell what we have available. If these had all been on Albania, it's possible we could have just added drives. But they were mostly for London - where we have less control to upgrade servers, especially without massive downtime.

Dartnode style queue is the best way. Have one db table (handles concurrency) which gives out reservation token and notes the position, wait for payment, release after some time, repeat. Refunding dozens of people who got to the payment step is cumbersome for all involved.

zejjnt · December 2025

Great I just fucking cut my thumb open.
(Unrelated to hosting)

tof · December 2025

@HuiW said:

@kuroit said:
How did you end up with 48?

2+0+2+6=10
20+26=46
????=48

I guess 2+2=4 then 2+6=8

Such that we have 48

@kuroit

My brain works strangely when I'm stressed. 2026, so 20x2+8 😂

beanman109 · December 2025

@zejjnt said:
Great I just fucking cut my thumb open.

want me to kiss it better?

Yarmeli · December 2025

@besto said:
I think everyone should use Puzzles for promocodes like Kuroit did. But 1000x more difficult ones. Otherwise, all good deals will be taken by bots.

The added advantage is fun, and more exposure for the hosting company for having clever promocodes that rewards the puzzle solver. It will certainly lead to much bigger discussions.

Make the puzzle something chatgpt cannot easily solve.

like drawing dicks!

@emgh will drop some that require that later today

dTQzBen8 · December 2025

@stevenbrich said:

@kuroit said:

@dTQzBen8 said:

@kuroit said:
[BF SALE] Singapore - 2vCore/2GB RAM/25GB Space

2 vCore (AMD EPYC)
2GB DDR4 RAM
25GB SSD/NVMe
1TB Traffic Monthly @ 10G Uplink
Singapore

Price: $3/mo or $30/year
Order: https://my.kuroit.com/store/sale-offers/bf-sale-singapore-2vcore2gb-ram25gb-space

50% OFF ON FIRST 5 ORDERS!
Promocode is sum of next year

Shit got the coupon applied while checking out but still inverted back to original price. I hate CAPTCHA.

@senos said:
Miss it ......

@gigazil said:

@kuroit said:
[BF SALE] Singapore - 2vCore/2GB RAM/25GB Space

2 vCore (AMD EPYC)
2GB DDR4 RAM
25GB SSD/NVMe
1TB Traffic Monthly @ 10G Uplink
Singapore

Price: $3/mo or $30/year
Order: https://my.kuroit.com/store/sale-offers/bf-sale-singapore-2vcore2gb-ram25gb-space

50% OFF ON FIRST 5 ORDERS!
Promocode is sum of next year

fuk, paypal login got me good this time

@Svalbard said:
I hate this world

Lets try again! Captcha disabled!

Promocode: Year when Titanic movie was released

Order: https://my.kuroit.com/store/sale-offers/bf-sale-singapore-2vcore2gb-ram25gb-space

quickly again!

Still missed, I guess this is what fate it is.

xiaomonk · December 2025

@kuroit said:

@AlteredParadox said:
Had promo code in, order page said $15, paypal was billed $30, no vm in account. Seems broke.

Already mentioned that vms will be deployed manually. It will be there in your account soon.

Will the activity continue?

ralf · December 2025

@tof said:

@HuiW said:

@kuroit said:
How did you end up with 48?

2+0+2+6=10
20+26=46
????=48

I guess 2+2=4 then 2+6=8

Such that we have 48

@kuroit

My brain works strangely when I'm stressed. 2026, so 20x2+8 😂

But where did the 8 come from?

AlteredParadox · December 2025

@kuroit said:

@AlteredParadox said:
Had promo code in, order page said $15, paypal was billed $30, no vm in account. Seems broke.

Already mentioned that vms will be deployed manually. It will be there in your account soon.

Am kinda more concerned that I hit pay on a screen that said $15 and was billed $30 instead.

zejjnt · December 2025

@beanman109 said:

@zejjnt said:
Great I just fucking cut my thumb open.

want me to kiss it better?

Are you a dog or other creature with kinda unfilthy saliva?
Either way the answer is no but I'm still asking

moji · December 2025

@kuroit said:

@dTQzBen8 said:

@kuroit said:
[BF SALE] Singapore - 2vCore/2GB RAM/25GB Space

2 vCore (AMD EPYC)
2GB DDR4 RAM
25GB SSD/NVMe
1TB Traffic Monthly @ 10G Uplink
Singapore

Price: $3/mo or $30/year
Order: https://my.kuroit.com/store/sale-offers/bf-sale-singapore-2vcore2gb-ram25gb-space

50% OFF ON FIRST 5 ORDERS!
Promocode is sum of next year

Shit got the coupon applied while checking out but still inverted back to original price. I hate CAPTCHA.

@senos said:
Miss it ......

@gigazil said:

@kuroit said:
[BF SALE] Singapore - 2vCore/2GB RAM/25GB Space

2 vCore (AMD EPYC)
2GB DDR4 RAM
25GB SSD/NVMe
1TB Traffic Monthly @ 10G Uplink
Singapore

Price: $3/mo or $30/year
Order: https://my.kuroit.com/store/sale-offers/bf-sale-singapore-2vcore2gb-ram25gb-space

50% OFF ON FIRST 5 ORDERS!
Promocode is sum of next year

fuk, paypal login got me good this time

@Svalbard said:
I hate this world

Lets try again! Captcha disabled!

Promocode: Year when Titanic movie was released

Order: https://my.kuroit.com/store/sale-offers/bf-sale-singapore-2vcore2gb-ram25gb-space

Thank you @kuroit, I got it.

ifdong · December 2025

@kuroit said:

@AlteredParadox said:
Had promo code in, order page said $15, paypal was billed $30, no vm in account. Seems broke.

Already mentioned that vms will be deployed manually. It will be there in your account soon.

Are there any other events? I just woke up and missed so many great activities.

cybertech · December 2025

really sucks to have missed everything travelling around past few days.

any more deals?

bandwidthking · December 2025

@kuroit said:
How did you end up with 48?

2+0+2+6=10
20+26=46
????=48

your questions are too hard.

Maki · December 2025

@avsisp said:

@ralf said:

@avsisp said:

@Maki said:

@avsisp said:

@senos said:

@avsisp said:

@FAT32 said:

01/12 00:00

AVS ISP: 25€/yr 1TB SSD/NVME Unmetered Storage VPS in AL/UK(IE)

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

20GB NVMe (System) + 1TB SSD Storage

Unmetered @ 100Mbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: Albania

25€/yr

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

1TB NVMe Storage

Unmetered @ 1Gbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: UK with IPs Ireland Geo (IE)

25€/yr

Notes:

PayPal Only (All BF deals must be paid via PayPal)

Manual Setup: Setup is performed manually, usually within 1 hour (varies by time of purchase)

No Reservations: Cancelling at checkout does not reserve your slot. Your spot is ecured only after PayPal payment completion

Batch Processing: VPS servers are setup in batches. Account and VPS details will be emailed after setup is complete

Final Sale: Stock is extremely limited. Once sold out, these deals will NOT return. Payments are final. No refunds on promotions.

Paid but it did not ask for account registration. What next?

We work on Albanian Time, we have just woken up for the day here.

We are checking the orders now and having some coffee - then we will process them.

There may have been a glitch - I'm seeing multiple orders for the same product here. Some may be refunded. Only the first one will be accepted. (multiple people had the payment page already up when the first paid and locked it, so all of them that were on PayPal already paid. Which isn't an issue - it just means we will have to refund some, we obviously can't honor 16 storage deals that large due to a glitch).

The first ones of each will receive an email from support {at} avsisp.com asking for which OS and the email address on your account (if different than paypal). The others will receive a prompt refund.

Apologies for any delays. Posts here on LET may not align with our operating hours, of course - which may lead to slight delays between post / order and us processing them.

Thank you for understanding.

So that means only two orders will actually go through? I really thought this was going to be the best deal I snagged for BF2025. Thanks for the generosity anyway, and huge congrats to the two lucky winners !

Yes, of course - they were intended to be limit 1 of each deal. But what happened was LET people have those fast fingers and multiple of you opened the page at the exact same time, proceeded to PayPal at the exact same time, and paid at the exact same time before one paid and locked the page. Down to the ms, they were within 2ms of eachother which is insanely fast on you guy's part (I love the enthusiasm! Thanks for the support!).

Refunds have already been issued. I think it's better we don't post publicly the emails of the 2 that were actually first, so I'll just say to check if you were refunded. If you got a refund, you weren't the first. If you didn't see a refund, you were first and you'll get a support email shortly with questions on OS and account email.

Apologies again for this glitch.

Too bad for them, need to wait for more than month to get their money back, because of faulty system to not recheck things

It isn't a faulty system. It's PayPal themselves. We relied on their system to handle that. So now PayPal is a faulty system? Makes sense.... For sure..

As for a month, that's entirely incorrect.
1) if you paid with PayPal balance, it's instantly back
2) if you paid with linked bank, it's just cancelled and never gets pulled - no money ever moves
3) if you paid with card, it's instant for USA Visa/MC usually and for other countries or card types it's 3 days max, usually in 24 hours or less.

Again, apologies, but we had no way to control this glitch. You guys are just too fast - this isn't the first time this has happened in LET history. It's happened with WHMCS using hosts, hostbill hosts, etc. payments make it through but product OOS and then payment cancelled or refunded. It's quiet a normal glitch and isn't one that can be solved unless you're a bank with the computer processing payments directly connected to your website which would be illegal but yeah - 2ms isn't enough time for notifications to cut transactions to come. And if you're already on the payment page, PayPal is going to accept that payment, even if the order page is already disabled. That's a PayPal issue - not one we can control. And again, with 2ms differences in payment times, I'm not sure any system in the world could have stopped that glitch regardless. Try to ping your own phone from your laptop in the same house or something some time. That's 2ms or more...

You shouldn't be relying on the payment provider to marshall who got the deal first. If someone has got to the stage where they've already been offered a deal and paid the advertised price, you should honour it.

If you only have one deal to sell, you should raise the invoice to whoever gets there first, and you can do that locally and ensure there is only one. If they don't pay the invoice in a reasonable timeframe, then cancel the order and restart the offer.

Again, that wouldn't have worked in this case. They were 2ms apart. They were at the page at the same time. There's no way it could have been prevented. PayPal themselves didn't stop it - on WHMCS with a limit 1 product even we've had this happen before. So what you're saying is incorrect and isn't compatible with how programming, APIs, internet latency, etc work.

We did the responsible thing and refunded them because we don't oversell our servers. We can't very-well sell 16TB of space when we can't guarantee that much space on the servers.

Apologies again to anyone refunded. But in the end, there was not other options for us but to handle it responsibly and give people their money back. We aren't some shady host that will oversell it rediculously to make a quick buck. We try to be responsible and not to oversell what we have available. If these had all been on Albania, it's possible we could have just added drives. But they were mostly for London - where we have less control to upgrade servers, especially without massive downtime.

Incorrect. They were on payment page at same time. Race condition wasn't possible to correct with 2ms differences.

You are naive, paypal job is to handle payment, not checking your stock

As "no way it could have been prevented", then you have problem with your stack, you didnt check if someone already click pay, you didnt check if someone already at paypal page, you didnt check if someone already have invoice in that product

So "Race condition wasn't possible to correct with 2ms differences." is also incorrect, you assume that the problem is the computational, or are you use old CPU for your server?

2ms, you say 2ms is impossible to correct, thats must be a joke, even in finance, such error is enormous

Also "They were on payment page at same time" this is your problem to let this happen, clearly not preparing the sudden visit.

You should read how to use single thread database, especially sqlite, it lock away shit when its updating, obviously will fix your "Race condition wasn't possible to correct with 2ms differences."

ayuriko · December 2025

@cybertech said:
really sucks to have missed everything travelling around past few days.

any more deals?

Bitcoin has a 5% discount

doobydoe · December 2025

@cybertech said:
really sucks to have missed everything travelling around past few days.

any more deals?

I missed you 🥲

Arirang · December 2025

@cybertech said:
really sucks to have missed everything travelling around past few days.

any more deals?

Traveling is more valuable than addiction to buying and math. Enjoy it!

tof · December 2025

@ralf said:

@tof said:

@HuiW said:

@kuroit said:
How did you end up with 48?

2+0+2+6=10
20+26=46
????=48

I guess 2+2=4 then 2+6=8

Such that we have 48

@kuroit

My brain works strangely when I'm stressed. 2026, so 20x2+8 😂

But where did the 8 come from?

2+6. It's a good thing to know (my weakness) for me, through a flash sale. Thank you @kuroit 😊 (I even tried 28)

kainjinez · December 2025

@FAT32 said:

@kainjinez said:
@FAT32 could you give some hints about hostbrr deal start? I cant spend all night to refresh LET

Which Hosrbrr deal?

[??:??] HostBrr: 70% off site-wide cPanel Reseller in DE/US/SG - 5+ Accounts 25GB+ from $13.5/yr+

doobydoe · December 2025

Enjoy.

avsisp · December 2025

@ralf said:

@avsisp said:

@ralf said:

@avsisp said:

@Maki said:

@avsisp said:

@senos said:

@avsisp said:

@FAT32 said:

01/12 00:00

AVS ISP: 25€/yr 1TB SSD/NVME Unmetered Storage VPS in AL/UK(IE)

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

20GB NVMe (System) + 1TB SSD Storage

Unmetered @ 100Mbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: Albania

25€/yr

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

1TB NVMe Storage

Unmetered @ 1Gbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: UK with IPs Ireland Geo (IE)

25€/yr

Notes:

PayPal Only (All BF deals must be paid via PayPal)

Manual Setup: Setup is performed manually, usually within 1 hour (varies by time of purchase)

No Reservations: Cancelling at checkout does not reserve your slot. Your spot is ecured only after PayPal payment completion

Batch Processing: VPS servers are setup in batches. Account and VPS details will be emailed after setup is complete

Final Sale: Stock is extremely limited. Once sold out, these deals will NOT return. Payments are final. No refunds on promotions.

Paid but it did not ask for account registration. What next?

We work on Albanian Time, we have just woken up for the day here.

We are checking the orders now and having some coffee - then we will process them.

There may have been a glitch - I'm seeing multiple orders for the same product here. Some may be refunded. Only the first one will be accepted. (multiple people had the payment page already up when the first paid and locked it, so all of them that were on PayPal already paid. Which isn't an issue - it just means we will have to refund some, we obviously can't honor 16 storage deals that large due to a glitch).

The first ones of each will receive an email from support {at} avsisp.com asking for which OS and the email address on your account (if different than paypal). The others will receive a prompt refund.

Apologies for any delays. Posts here on LET may not align with our operating hours, of course - which may lead to slight delays between post / order and us processing them.

Thank you for understanding.

So that means only two orders will actually go through? I really thought this was going to be the best deal I snagged for BF2025. Thanks for the generosity anyway, and huge congrats to the two lucky winners !

Yes, of course - they were intended to be limit 1 of each deal. But what happened was LET people have those fast fingers and multiple of you opened the page at the exact same time, proceeded to PayPal at the exact same time, and paid at the exact same time before one paid and locked the page. Down to the ms, they were within 2ms of eachother which is insanely fast on you guy's part (I love the enthusiasm! Thanks for the support!).

Refunds have already been issued. I think it's better we don't post publicly the emails of the 2 that were actually first, so I'll just say to check if you were refunded. If you got a refund, you weren't the first. If you didn't see a refund, you were first and you'll get a support email shortly with questions on OS and account email.

Apologies again for this glitch.

Too bad for them, need to wait for more than month to get their money back, because of faulty system to not recheck things

It isn't a faulty system. It's PayPal themselves. We relied on their system to handle that. So now PayPal is a faulty system? Makes sense.... For sure..

As for a month, that's entirely incorrect.
1) if you paid with PayPal balance, it's instantly back
2) if you paid with linked bank, it's just cancelled and never gets pulled - no money ever moves
3) if you paid with card, it's instant for USA Visa/MC usually and for other countries or card types it's 3 days max, usually in 24 hours or less.

Again, apologies, but we had no way to control this glitch. You guys are just too fast - this isn't the first time this has happened in LET history. It's happened with WHMCS using hosts, hostbill hosts, etc. payments make it through but product OOS and then payment cancelled or refunded. It's quiet a normal glitch and isn't one that can be solved unless you're a bank with the computer processing payments directly connected to your website which would be illegal but yeah - 2ms isn't enough time for notifications to cut transactions to come. And if you're already on the payment page, PayPal is going to accept that payment, even if the order page is already disabled. That's a PayPal issue - not one we can control. And again, with 2ms differences in payment times, I'm not sure any system in the world could have stopped that glitch regardless. Try to ping your own phone from your laptop in the same house or something some time. That's 2ms or more...

You shouldn't be relying on the payment provider to marshall who got the deal first. If someone has got to the stage where they've already been offered a deal and paid the advertised price, you should honour it.

If you only have one deal to sell, you should raise the invoice to whoever gets there first, and you can do that locally and ensure there is only one. If they don't pay the invoice in a reasonable timeframe, then cancel the order and restart the offer.

Again, that wouldn't have worked in this case. They were 2ms apart. They were at the page at the same time. There's no way it could have been prevented. PayPal themselves didn't stop it - on WHMCS with a limit 1 product even we've had this happen before. So what you're saying is incorrect and isn't compatible with how programming, APIs, internet latency, etc work.

We did the responsible thing and refunded them because we don't oversell our servers. We can't very-well sell 16TB of space when we can't guarantee that much space on the servers.

Apologies again to anyone refunded. But in the end, there was not other options for us but to handle it responsibly and give people their money back. We aren't some shady host that will oversell it rediculously to make a quick buck. We try to be responsible and not to oversell what we have available. If these had all been on Albania, it's possible we could have just added drives. But they were mostly for London - where we have less control to upgrade servers, especially without massive downtime.

You didn't read what I wrote. Don't send two customers to paypal and hope that paypal will decide who was first. Decide YOURSELF who was first, and send that person to paypal. If they don't complete the purchase in a reasonable time, say 10 minutes, cancel the order and then reopen the deal.

This was done...

When the first person clicked the PayPal button, a lockfile was made. The page would have loaded out of stock at that point. If IPN came, lockfile became permanent. If not in 5 minutes, it unlocked.

Problem was - they were already all on the page and already clicking PayPal button at the EXACT SAME TIME. So that lock file didn't matter. They were at PayPal, not on our website.

Maki · December 2025

@jnd said:

@avsisp said:

@ralf said:

@avsisp said:

@Maki said:

@avsisp said:

@senos said:

@avsisp said:

@FAT32 said:

01/12 00:00

AVS ISP: 25€/yr 1TB SSD/NVME Unmetered Storage VPS in AL/UK(IE)

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

20GB NVMe (System) + 1TB SSD Storage

Unmetered @ 100Mbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: Albania

25€/yr

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

1TB NVMe Storage

Unmetered @ 1Gbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: UK with IPs Ireland Geo (IE)

25€/yr

Notes:

PayPal Only (All BF deals must be paid via PayPal)

Manual Setup: Setup is performed manually, usually within 1 hour (varies by time of purchase)

No Reservations: Cancelling at checkout does not reserve your slot. Your spot is ecured only after PayPal payment completion

Batch Processing: VPS servers are setup in batches. Account and VPS details will be emailed after setup is complete

Final Sale: Stock is extremely limited. Once sold out, these deals will NOT return. Payments are final. No refunds on promotions.

Paid but it did not ask for account registration. What next?

We work on Albanian Time, we have just woken up for the day here.

We are checking the orders now and having some coffee - then we will process them.

There may have been a glitch - I'm seeing multiple orders for the same product here. Some may be refunded. Only the first one will be accepted. (multiple people had the payment page already up when the first paid and locked it, so all of them that were on PayPal already paid. Which isn't an issue - it just means we will have to refund some, we obviously can't honor 16 storage deals that large due to a glitch).

The first ones of each will receive an email from support {at} avsisp.com asking for which OS and the email address on your account (if different than paypal). The others will receive a prompt refund.

Apologies for any delays. Posts here on LET may not align with our operating hours, of course - which may lead to slight delays between post / order and us processing them.

Thank you for understanding.

So that means only two orders will actually go through? I really thought this was going to be the best deal I snagged for BF2025. Thanks for the generosity anyway, and huge congrats to the two lucky winners !

Yes, of course - they were intended to be limit 1 of each deal. But what happened was LET people have those fast fingers and multiple of you opened the page at the exact same time, proceeded to PayPal at the exact same time, and paid at the exact same time before one paid and locked the page. Down to the ms, they were within 2ms of eachother which is insanely fast on you guy's part (I love the enthusiasm! Thanks for the support!).

Refunds have already been issued. I think it's better we don't post publicly the emails of the 2 that were actually first, so I'll just say to check if you were refunded. If you got a refund, you weren't the first. If you didn't see a refund, you were first and you'll get a support email shortly with questions on OS and account email.

Apologies again for this glitch.

Too bad for them, need to wait for more than month to get their money back, because of faulty system to not recheck things

It isn't a faulty system. It's PayPal themselves. We relied on their system to handle that. So now PayPal is a faulty system? Makes sense.... For sure..

As for a month, that's entirely incorrect.
1) if you paid with PayPal balance, it's instantly back
2) if you paid with linked bank, it's just cancelled and never gets pulled - no money ever moves
3) if you paid with card, it's instant for USA Visa/MC usually and for other countries or card types it's 3 days max, usually in 24 hours or less.

Again, apologies, but we had no way to control this glitch. You guys are just too fast - this isn't the first time this has happened in LET history. It's happened with WHMCS using hosts, hostbill hosts, etc. payments make it through but product OOS and then payment cancelled or refunded. It's quiet a normal glitch and isn't one that can be solved unless you're a bank with the computer processing payments directly connected to your website which would be illegal but yeah - 2ms isn't enough time for notifications to cut transactions to come. And if you're already on the payment page, PayPal is going to accept that payment, even if the order page is already disabled. That's a PayPal issue - not one we can control. And again, with 2ms differences in payment times, I'm not sure any system in the world could have stopped that glitch regardless. Try to ping your own phone from your laptop in the same house or something some time. That's 2ms or more...

You shouldn't be relying on the payment provider to marshall who got the deal first. If someone has got to the stage where they've already been offered a deal and paid the advertised price, you should honour it.

If you only have one deal to sell, you should raise the invoice to whoever gets there first, and you can do that locally and ensure there is only one. If they don't pay the invoice in a reasonable timeframe, then cancel the order and restart the offer.

Again, that wouldn't have worked in this case. They were 2ms apart. They were at the page at the same time. There's no way it could have been prevented. PayPal themselves didn't stop it - on WHMCS with a limit 1 product even we've had this happen before. So what you're saying is incorrect and isn't compatible with how programming, APIs, internet latency, etc work.

We did the responsible thing and refunded them because we don't oversell our servers. We can't very-well sell 16TB of space when we can't guarantee that much space on the servers.

Apologies again to anyone refunded. But in the end, there was not other options for us but to handle it responsibly and give people their money back. We aren't some shady host that will oversell it rediculously to make a quick buck. We try to be responsible and not to oversell what we have available. If these had all been on Albania, it's possible we could have just added drives. But they were mostly for London - where we have less control to upgrade servers, especially without massive downtime.

Dartnode style queue is the best way. Have one db table (handles concurrency) which gives out reservation token and notes the position, wait for payment, release after some time, repeat. Refunding dozens of people who got to the payment step is cumbersome for all involved.

Saying it hard is easier than doing the hard one

simo · December 2025

@cybertech said:
really sucks to have missed everything travelling around past few days.

any more deals?

same here, I am wondering if those deals are even catch by normal LET users, or some Chinese mafia is behind taking everything and re-sell it somewhere it's not fair

tansel · December 2025

@avsisp said:

@ralf said:

@avsisp said:

@ralf said:

@avsisp said:

@Maki said:

@avsisp said:

@senos said:

@avsisp said:

@FAT32 said:

01/12 00:00

AVS ISP: 25€/yr 1TB SSD/NVME Unmetered Storage VPS in AL/UK(IE)

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

20GB NVMe (System) + 1TB SSD Storage

Unmetered @ 100Mbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: Albania

25€/yr

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

1TB NVMe Storage

Unmetered @ 1Gbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: UK with IPs Ireland Geo (IE)

25€/yr

Notes:

PayPal Only (All BF deals must be paid via PayPal)

Manual Setup: Setup is performed manually, usually within 1 hour (varies by time of purchase)

No Reservations: Cancelling at checkout does not reserve your slot. Your spot is ecured only after PayPal payment completion

Batch Processing: VPS servers are setup in batches. Account and VPS details will be emailed after setup is complete

Final Sale: Stock is extremely limited. Once sold out, these deals will NOT return. Payments are final. No refunds on promotions.

Paid but it did not ask for account registration. What next?

We work on Albanian Time, we have just woken up for the day here.

We are checking the orders now and having some coffee - then we will process them.

There may have been a glitch - I'm seeing multiple orders for the same product here. Some may be refunded. Only the first one will be accepted. (multiple people had the payment page already up when the first paid and locked it, so all of them that were on PayPal already paid. Which isn't an issue - it just means we will have to refund some, we obviously can't honor 16 storage deals that large due to a glitch).

The first ones of each will receive an email from support {at} avsisp.com asking for which OS and the email address on your account (if different than paypal). The others will receive a prompt refund.

Apologies for any delays. Posts here on LET may not align with our operating hours, of course - which may lead to slight delays between post / order and us processing them.

Thank you for understanding.

So that means only two orders will actually go through? I really thought this was going to be the best deal I snagged for BF2025. Thanks for the generosity anyway, and huge congrats to the two lucky winners !

Yes, of course - they were intended to be limit 1 of each deal. But what happened was LET people have those fast fingers and multiple of you opened the page at the exact same time, proceeded to PayPal at the exact same time, and paid at the exact same time before one paid and locked the page. Down to the ms, they were within 2ms of eachother which is insanely fast on you guy's part (I love the enthusiasm! Thanks for the support!).

Refunds have already been issued. I think it's better we don't post publicly the emails of the 2 that were actually first, so I'll just say to check if you were refunded. If you got a refund, you weren't the first. If you didn't see a refund, you were first and you'll get a support email shortly with questions on OS and account email.

Apologies again for this glitch.

Too bad for them, need to wait for more than month to get their money back, because of faulty system to not recheck things

It isn't a faulty system. It's PayPal themselves. We relied on their system to handle that. So now PayPal is a faulty system? Makes sense.... For sure..

As for a month, that's entirely incorrect.
1) if you paid with PayPal balance, it's instantly back
2) if you paid with linked bank, it's just cancelled and never gets pulled - no money ever moves
3) if you paid with card, it's instant for USA Visa/MC usually and for other countries or card types it's 3 days max, usually in 24 hours or less.

Again, apologies, but we had no way to control this glitch. You guys are just too fast - this isn't the first time this has happened in LET history. It's happened with WHMCS using hosts, hostbill hosts, etc. payments make it through but product OOS and then payment cancelled or refunded. It's quiet a normal glitch and isn't one that can be solved unless you're a bank with the computer processing payments directly connected to your website which would be illegal but yeah - 2ms isn't enough time for notifications to cut transactions to come. And if you're already on the payment page, PayPal is going to accept that payment, even if the order page is already disabled. That's a PayPal issue - not one we can control. And again, with 2ms differences in payment times, I'm not sure any system in the world could have stopped that glitch regardless. Try to ping your own phone from your laptop in the same house or something some time. That's 2ms or more...

You shouldn't be relying on the payment provider to marshall who got the deal first. If someone has got to the stage where they've already been offered a deal and paid the advertised price, you should honour it.

If you only have one deal to sell, you should raise the invoice to whoever gets there first, and you can do that locally and ensure there is only one. If they don't pay the invoice in a reasonable timeframe, then cancel the order and restart the offer.

Again, that wouldn't have worked in this case. They were 2ms apart. They were at the page at the same time. There's no way it could have been prevented. PayPal themselves didn't stop it - on WHMCS with a limit 1 product even we've had this happen before. So what you're saying is incorrect and isn't compatible with how programming, APIs, internet latency, etc work.

We did the responsible thing and refunded them because we don't oversell our servers. We can't very-well sell 16TB of space when we can't guarantee that much space on the servers.

Apologies again to anyone refunded. But in the end, there was not other options for us but to handle it responsibly and give people their money back. We aren't some shady host that will oversell it rediculously to make a quick buck. We try to be responsible and not to oversell what we have available. If these had all been on Albania, it's possible we could have just added drives. But they were mostly for London - where we have less control to upgrade servers, especially without massive downtime.

You didn't read what I wrote. Don't send two customers to paypal and hope that paypal will decide who was first. Decide YOURSELF who was first, and send that person to paypal. If they don't complete the purchase in a reasonable time, say 10 minutes, cancel the order and then reopen the deal.

This was done...

When the first person clicked the PayPal button, a lockfile was made. The page would have loaded out of stock at that point. If IPN came, lockfile became permanent. If not in 5 minutes, it unlocked.

Problem was - they were already all on the page and already clicking PayPal button at the EXACT SAME TIME. So that lock file didn't matter. They were at PayPal, not on our website.

why manage inventory based on whether paypal makes a payment instead of orders?

ypkin · December 2025

@kuroit said:

@AlteredParadox said:
Had promo code in, order page said $15, paypal was billed $30, no vm in account. Seems broke.

Already mentioned that vms will be deployed manually. It will be there in your account soon.

gigazil · December 2025

uh sir, race condition is 100% preventable, period.
if not, skill issue.

FAT32 · December 2025

@besto said:
I think everyone should use Puzzles for promocodes like Kuroit did. But 1000x more difficult ones. Otherwise, all good deals will be taken by bots.

The added advantage is fun, and more exposure for the hosting company for having clever promocodes that rewards the puzzle solver. It will certainly lead to much bigger discussions. Also get higher SEO for hosting company if users spend more time there.

Make the puzzle something chatgpt cannot easily solve. And you will see more people participate too, because now people feel they have a chance to win, as opposed to staying online refreshing a thread for entire day and then still not get the best deals.

Just so you know... it is not easy to come up with hard puzzle / questions that's not easily solvable by ChatGPT. Talk is cheap.

And the truth is, why would small providers spend so much more time developing the puzzles etc just to sell deals that doesn't make them much money? By business standpoint the time spent on developing / designing the puzzles could better be used elsewhere.

In 2024 I tried to have some custom captcha - which prove to be working. I only accepted to organise this year's event very urgently so don't really have time to deploy that again. However, maybe that's something we (as a platform) can do in the future.

Maki · December 2025

@avsisp said:

@ralf said:

@avsisp said:

@ralf said:

@avsisp said:

@Maki said:

@avsisp said:

@senos said:

@avsisp said:

@FAT32 said:

01/12 00:00

AVS ISP: 25€/yr 1TB SSD/NVME Unmetered Storage VPS in AL/UK(IE)

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

20GB NVMe (System) + 1TB SSD Storage

Unmetered @ 100Mbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: Albania

25€/yr

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

1TB NVMe Storage

Unmetered @ 1Gbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: UK with IPs Ireland Geo (IE)

25€/yr

Notes:

PayPal Only (All BF deals must be paid via PayPal)

Manual Setup: Setup is performed manually, usually within 1 hour (varies by time of purchase)

No Reservations: Cancelling at checkout does not reserve your slot. Your spot is ecured only after PayPal payment completion

Batch Processing: VPS servers are setup in batches. Account and VPS details will be emailed after setup is complete

Final Sale: Stock is extremely limited. Once sold out, these deals will NOT return. Payments are final. No refunds on promotions.

Paid but it did not ask for account registration. What next?

We work on Albanian Time, we have just woken up for the day here.

We are checking the orders now and having some coffee - then we will process them.

There may have been a glitch - I'm seeing multiple orders for the same product here. Some may be refunded. Only the first one will be accepted. (multiple people had the payment page already up when the first paid and locked it, so all of them that were on PayPal already paid. Which isn't an issue - it just means we will have to refund some, we obviously can't honor 16 storage deals that large due to a glitch).

The first ones of each will receive an email from support {at} avsisp.com asking for which OS and the email address on your account (if different than paypal). The others will receive a prompt refund.

Apologies for any delays. Posts here on LET may not align with our operating hours, of course - which may lead to slight delays between post / order and us processing them.

Thank you for understanding.

So that means only two orders will actually go through? I really thought this was going to be the best deal I snagged for BF2025. Thanks for the generosity anyway, and huge congrats to the two lucky winners !

Yes, of course - they were intended to be limit 1 of each deal. But what happened was LET people have those fast fingers and multiple of you opened the page at the exact same time, proceeded to PayPal at the exact same time, and paid at the exact same time before one paid and locked the page. Down to the ms, they were within 2ms of eachother which is insanely fast on you guy's part (I love the enthusiasm! Thanks for the support!).

Refunds have already been issued. I think it's better we don't post publicly the emails of the 2 that were actually first, so I'll just say to check if you were refunded. If you got a refund, you weren't the first. If you didn't see a refund, you were first and you'll get a support email shortly with questions on OS and account email.

Apologies again for this glitch.

Too bad for them, need to wait for more than month to get their money back, because of faulty system to not recheck things

It isn't a faulty system. It's PayPal themselves. We relied on their system to handle that. So now PayPal is a faulty system? Makes sense.... For sure..

As for a month, that's entirely incorrect.
1) if you paid with PayPal balance, it's instantly back
2) if you paid with linked bank, it's just cancelled and never gets pulled - no money ever moves
3) if you paid with card, it's instant for USA Visa/MC usually and for other countries or card types it's 3 days max, usually in 24 hours or less.

Again, apologies, but we had no way to control this glitch. You guys are just too fast - this isn't the first time this has happened in LET history. It's happened with WHMCS using hosts, hostbill hosts, etc. payments make it through but product OOS and then payment cancelled or refunded. It's quiet a normal glitch and isn't one that can be solved unless you're a bank with the computer processing payments directly connected to your website which would be illegal but yeah - 2ms isn't enough time for notifications to cut transactions to come. And if you're already on the payment page, PayPal is going to accept that payment, even if the order page is already disabled. That's a PayPal issue - not one we can control. And again, with 2ms differences in payment times, I'm not sure any system in the world could have stopped that glitch regardless. Try to ping your own phone from your laptop in the same house or something some time. That's 2ms or more...

You shouldn't be relying on the payment provider to marshall who got the deal first. If someone has got to the stage where they've already been offered a deal and paid the advertised price, you should honour it.

If you only have one deal to sell, you should raise the invoice to whoever gets there first, and you can do that locally and ensure there is only one. If they don't pay the invoice in a reasonable timeframe, then cancel the order and restart the offer.

Again, that wouldn't have worked in this case. They were 2ms apart. They were at the page at the same time. There's no way it could have been prevented. PayPal themselves didn't stop it - on WHMCS with a limit 1 product even we've had this happen before. So what you're saying is incorrect and isn't compatible with how programming, APIs, internet latency, etc work.

We did the responsible thing and refunded them because we don't oversell our servers. We can't very-well sell 16TB of space when we can't guarantee that much space on the servers.

Apologies again to anyone refunded. But in the end, there was not other options for us but to handle it responsibly and give people their money back. We aren't some shady host that will oversell it rediculously to make a quick buck. We try to be responsible and not to oversell what we have available. If these had all been on Albania, it's possible we could have just added drives. But they were mostly for London - where we have less control to upgrade servers, especially without massive downtime.

You didn't read what I wrote. Don't send two customers to paypal and hope that paypal will decide who was first. Decide YOURSELF who was first, and send that person to paypal. If they don't complete the purchase in a reasonable time, say 10 minutes, cancel the order and then reopen the deal.

This was done...

When the first person clicked the PayPal button, a lockfile was made. The page would have loaded out of stock at that point. If IPN came, lockfile became permanent. If not in 5 minutes, it unlocked.

Problem was - they were already all on the page and already clicking PayPal button at the EXACT SAME TIME. So that lock file didn't matter. They were at PayPal, not on our website.

Lockfile in multithread? thats your problem

avsisp · December 2025

@Maki said:

@avsisp said:

@ralf said:

@avsisp said:

@Maki said:

@avsisp said:

@senos said:

@avsisp said:

@FAT32 said:

01/12 00:00

AVS ISP: 25€/yr 1TB SSD/NVME Unmetered Storage VPS in AL/UK(IE)

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

20GB NVMe (System) + 1TB SSD Storage

Unmetered @ 100Mbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: Albania

25€/yr

1 vCPU

1GB RAM

1TB NVMe Storage

Unmetered @ 1Gbps

1 IPv4 + /48 IPv6

Location: UK with IPs Ireland Geo (IE)

25€/yr

Notes:

PayPal Only (All BF deals must be paid via PayPal)

Manual Setup: Setup is performed manually, usually within 1 hour (varies by time of purchase)

No Reservations: Cancelling at checkout does not reserve your slot. Your spot is ecured only after PayPal payment completion

Batch Processing: VPS servers are setup in batches. Account and VPS details will be emailed after setup is complete

Final Sale: Stock is extremely limited. Once sold out, these deals will NOT return. Payments are final. No refunds on promotions.

Paid but it did not ask for account registration. What next?

We work on Albanian Time, we have just woken up for the day here.

We are checking the orders now and having some coffee - then we will process them.

There may have been a glitch - I'm seeing multiple orders for the same product here. Some may be refunded. Only the first one will be accepted. (multiple people had the payment page already up when the first paid and locked it, so all of them that were on PayPal already paid. Which isn't an issue - it just means we will have to refund some, we obviously can't honor 16 storage deals that large due to a glitch).

The first ones of each will receive an email from support {at} avsisp.com asking for which OS and the email address on your account (if different than paypal). The others will receive a prompt refund.

Apologies for any delays. Posts here on LET may not align with our operating hours, of course - which may lead to slight delays between post / order and us processing them.

Thank you for understanding.

So that means only two orders will actually go through? I really thought this was going to be the best deal I snagged for BF2025. Thanks for the generosity anyway, and huge congrats to the two lucky winners !

Yes, of course - they were intended to be limit 1 of each deal. But what happened was LET people have those fast fingers and multiple of you opened the page at the exact same time, proceeded to PayPal at the exact same time, and paid at the exact same time before one paid and locked the page. Down to the ms, they were within 2ms of eachother which is insanely fast on you guy's part (I love the enthusiasm! Thanks for the support!).

Refunds have already been issued. I think it's better we don't post publicly the emails of the 2 that were actually first, so I'll just say to check if you were refunded. If you got a refund, you weren't the first. If you didn't see a refund, you were first and you'll get a support email shortly with questions on OS and account email.

Apologies again for this glitch.

Too bad for them, need to wait for more than month to get their money back, because of faulty system to not recheck things

It isn't a faulty system. It's PayPal themselves. We relied on their system to handle that. So now PayPal is a faulty system? Makes sense.... For sure..

As for a month, that's entirely incorrect.
1) if you paid with PayPal balance, it's instantly back
2) if you paid with linked bank, it's just cancelled and never gets pulled - no money ever moves
3) if you paid with card, it's instant for USA Visa/MC usually and for other countries or card types it's 3 days max, usually in 24 hours or less.

Again, apologies, but we had no way to control this glitch. You guys are just too fast - this isn't the first time this has happened in LET history. It's happened with WHMCS using hosts, hostbill hosts, etc. payments make it through but product OOS and then payment cancelled or refunded. It's quiet a normal glitch and isn't one that can be solved unless you're a bank with the computer processing payments directly connected to your website which would be illegal but yeah - 2ms isn't enough time for notifications to cut transactions to come. And if you're already on the payment page, PayPal is going to accept that payment, even if the order page is already disabled. That's a PayPal issue - not one we can control. And again, with 2ms differences in payment times, I'm not sure any system in the world could have stopped that glitch regardless. Try to ping your own phone from your laptop in the same house or something some time. That's 2ms or more...

You shouldn't be relying on the payment provider to marshall who got the deal first. If someone has got to the stage where they've already been offered a deal and paid the advertised price, you should honour it.

If you only have one deal to sell, you should raise the invoice to whoever gets there first, and you can do that locally and ensure there is only one. If they don't pay the invoice in a reasonable timeframe, then cancel the order and restart the offer.

Again, that wouldn't have worked in this case. They were 2ms apart. They were at the page at the same time. There's no way it could have been prevented. PayPal themselves didn't stop it - on WHMCS with a limit 1 product even we've had this happen before. So what you're saying is incorrect and isn't compatible with how programming, APIs, internet latency, etc work.

We did the responsible thing and refunded them because we don't oversell our servers. We can't very-well sell 16TB of space when we can't guarantee that much space on the servers.

Apologies again to anyone refunded. But in the end, there was not other options for us but to handle it responsibly and give people their money back. We aren't some shady host that will oversell it rediculously to make a quick buck. We try to be responsible and not to oversell what we have available. If these had all been on Albania, it's possible we could have just added drives. But they were mostly for London - where we have less control to upgrade servers, especially without massive downtime.

Incorrect. They were on payment page at same time. Race condition wasn't possible to correct with 2ms differences.

You are naive, paypal job is to handle payment, not checking your stock

As "no way it could have been prevented", then you have problem with your stack, you didnt check if someone already click pay, you didnt check if someone already at paypal page, you didnt check if someone already have invoice in that product

So "Race condition wasn't possible to correct with 2ms differences." is also incorrect, you assume that the problem is the computational, or are you use old CPU for your server?

2ms, you say 2ms is impossible to correct, thats must be a joke, even in finance, such error is enormous

Also "They were on payment page at same time" this is your problem to let this happen, clearly not preparing the sudden visit.

You should read how to use single thread database, especially sqlite, it lock away shit when its updating, obviously will fix your "Race condition wasn't possible to correct with 2ms differences."

Read my last reply. We did indeed lockfile it. But everyone was on PayPal, not on our website. Our website page was locked. Anyone new coming to it got an out of stock. Those already at PayPal our system can't stop. PayPal link had a stock limit 1. I've already submitted a PayPal ticket to tell them what happened and ask them why their stock control on managed button links didn't work.

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