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  • time to watch Grappler Baki,, otherwise all i think about is food. and gotta wait some more..

  • @bchot said:
    time to watch Grappler Baki,, otherwise all i think about is food. and gotta wait some more..

    Thanks for that suggestion. Was looking for anime recommendations for next year.

  • @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:
    time to watch Grappler Baki,, otherwise all i think about is food. and gotta wait some more..

    Thanks for that suggestion. Was looking for anime recommendations for next year.

    Baki Hanma is the next iteration of that, very very very good, IMO

  • @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:
    time to watch Grappler Baki,, otherwise all i think about is food. and gotta wait some more..

    Thanks for that suggestion. Was looking for anime recommendations for next year.

    Baki Hanma is the next iteration of that, very very very good, IMO

    Oh ok. Added to my watch list for next year.

  • Anybody else online as well. Seems everyone's busy again.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    Slowly catching up. Dinner time first....> @noob404 said:

    @PuDLeZ said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:
    in Chicago many buildings don't have 13th floor from the superstitions that affected the architects

    Yah, I have heard of many buildings in Europe skiiping 13th floor altogether, I mean naming them. Elevators go to 14 after 12.

    But when you're on the 14th floor, you're not actually on the 14th...

    Yah, that's right. I always thought it was a European thing, but, turns out, Chicago has it as well, as bchot said.

    In some counties they skip the number 13 on the floor plan. So you from 12 to 14.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @bchot said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @Idling said:
    After black friday, New year is coming B) Hope there is a HappyNewYear event!

    Christmas first christmas 🎄

    not everyone celebrates, and not everywhere it's before NY..

    True :) it's usually a thing on LET though. Also some Chinese new year's offers when you look around. Parties all year through:)

  • MahdiMirzadehMahdiMirzadeh Member
    edited November 2025

    @noob404 said:
    @MahdiMirzadeh I plan on getting the same reseller at same location - Frankfurt next year, if everything goes as expected. If it's ok, kindly share some tips for someone looking to get into the reseller hosting business - maybe some marketing tips.

    It depends on what type of social media networks your target audience and the country where you are from use, for example from where I'm from most people use Telegram & Twitter and a forum like lowendtalk is not really popular

    Here is a simple yet affective approach in telegram that I've used back when I was active:
    1. I'll contact some small telegram bot owners/support accounts that I know have a public channel/group and ask if they want a free/sponsored host
    2. if they want one, I'll give them a 24h test account and if they want to commit I'll renew it for 6 months (it'll be a reasonable price after that free 6 months), all they have to do is to forward some of our hosting's channel's posts/offers, we'll tell them what posts to forward in a sponsored users group
    3. The thing is that the posts can't be too many for them to forward, it'll be annoying; just 1 post per month is good, you can also automate these promotions by creating a telegram bot that will automatically do this and auto-check to make sure the admin didn't delete the post or something (for example only for the first 48 hours)

    In this method you'll be supporting the community around you and get a few shout-outs in return.

    Collaborations also go a long way, talking to well known communities in the web dev/hosting categories and offering limited coupons or free services for their members members, will give you a lot of traffic and sign-ups, the channel owner will also be thrilled for being able to give their members some good deals and coupons that other communities won't be able to do

    Because your reseller is basically free (if won in giveaways) you don't have to worry about the cost of renewing the reseller and you can afford giving away free hosts for some time until you can make those free sponsored people to paid customers or have other people sign up and buy your services based on the ads
    Managing the plans and giveaways falls down to your own experience in the space, like should you give people 5GB hosts for 2 months? or a 50MB host for 12 months?

    You should also make users want to upgrade from free accounts based on the cpanel's package limitations, like free hosts will only be able to have 1 database, no addon domain, etc

    Note: the domain for free hosts will always be a random sub-domain of your own domain that will point to your hosting, do not give away free services that users can use without being attached to you in public, if you give them a free host with their own domain, why would they want to ever pay you?

    Make sure to not give these sub domains from your own hosting website, someone might do something weird and you don't want to be directly associated with it, just redirect that domain to a page in your main website that explains domain XYZ is for free hosts/services from this hosting, this way you'll keep your promotion and also people will know who to report to if something went wrong.

    We can talk more specifics in PM, this post is getting too long but I think some of the points made in this post might slightly help others with their marketing and give-aways if they ever wanted to do one...

    Thanked by 2noob404 sh97
  • @Saragoldfarb said:
    Slowly catching up. Dinner time first....> @noob404 said:

    @PuDLeZ said:

    @noob404 said:

    @bchot said:
    in Chicago many buildings don't have 13th floor from the superstitions that affected the architects

    Yah, I have heard of many buildings in Europe skiiping 13th floor altogether, I mean naming them. Elevators go to 14 after 12.

    But when you're on the 14th floor, you're not actually on the 14th...

    Yah, that's right. I always thought it was a European thing, but, turns out, Chicago has it as well, as bchot said.

    In some counties they skip the number 13 on the floor plan. So you from 12 to 14.

    Exactly. I have heard the same thing

    Thanked by 1Saragoldfarb
  • @MahdiMirzadeh said:

    @noob404 said:
    @MahdiMirzadeh I plan on getting the same reseller at same location - Frankfurt next year, if everything goes as expected. If it's ok, kindly share some tips for someone looking to get into the reseller hosting business - maybe some marketing tips.

    It depends on what type of social media networks your target audience and the country where you are from use, for example from where I'm from most people use Telegram & Twitter and a forum like lowendtalk is not really popular

    Here is a simple yet affective approach in telegram that I've used back when I was active:
    1. I'll contact some small telegram bot owners/support accounts that I know have a public channel/group and ask if they want a free/sponsored host
    2. if they want one, I'll give them a 24h test account and if they want to commit I'll renew it for 6 months (it'll be a reasonable price after that free 6 months), all they have to do is to forward some of our hosting's channel's posts/offers, we'll tell them what posts to forward in a sponsored users group
    3. The thing is that the posts can't be too many for them to forward, it'll be annoying; just 1 post per month is good, you can also automate these promotions by creating a telegram bot that will automatically do this and auto-check to make sure the admin didn't delete the post or something (for example only for the first 48 hours)

    In this method you'll be supporting the community around you and get a few shout-outs in return.

    Collaborations also go a long way, talking to well known communities in the web dev/hosting categories and offering limited coupons or free services for their members members, will give you a lot of traffic and sign-ups, the channel owner will also be thrilled for being able to give their members some good deals and coupons that other communities won't be able to do

    Because your reseller is basically free (if won in giveaways) you don't have to worry about the cost of renewing the reseller and you can afford giving away free hosts for some time until you can make those free sponsored people to paid customers or have other people sign up and buy your services based on the ads
    Managing the plans and giveaways falls down to your own experience in the space, like should you give people 5GB hosts for 2 months? or a 50MB host for 12 months?

    You should also make users want to upgrade from free accounts based on the cpanel's package limitations, like free hosts will only be able to have 1 database, no addon domain, etc

    Note: the domain for free hosts will always be a random sub-domain of your own domain that will point to your hosting, do not give away free services that users can use without being attached to you in public, if you give them a free host with their own domain, why would they want to ever pay you?

    Make sure to not give these sub domains from your own hosting website, someone might do something weird and you don't want to be directly associated with it, just redirect that domain to a page in your main website that explains domain XYZ is for free hosts/services from this hosting, this way you'll keep your promotion and also people will know who to report to if something went wrong.

    We can talk more specifics in PM, this post is getting too long but I think some of the points made in this post might slightly help others with their marketing and give-aways if they ever wanted to do one...

    This is gold. I would have never thought about using Telegram channels to promote the hosting service. My best bet would have been reddit. But, what you said makes much better sense.
    And, thanks for the awesome tip on not using the primary domain for providing free domain. I will PM you later on if I do proceed with it.
    Thanks a lot for this. I have screenshot this and will read it again when/if I do go ahead with this.

  • @noob404 said:

    @PuDLeZ said:
    I am going to be stepping away for a little bit. I need to go outside again and shovel/clear the additional snow we got over night. Guess the National Weather Service says my area got between 5.1 and 6.5 (they don't have a dot near me but between the various dots, they're all between that). From our walk this morning, I'd guess we got about 6

    Are these values like mm of snowfall or something?

    inches. My brain doesn't think meters as I was only taught imperial growing up. I also don't know C though I can do a rought estimate in my head converting. I googled, it's like 152.4mm.

    I do use 24hr time though. Growing up, my grandpa always used it so I switch to it to "learn" it and then it kind of just stuck with me. It's funny, I used to have to convert 24hr to 12hr (AM/PM) to understand what time, now it's the opposite :lol:

    Thanked by 1noob404
  • @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:
    Getting kinda late here. Might have to call it a day soon.

    Have a good night!

    Got a few more minutes in me, I guess.
    BTW, whats your dream GPU for now and how much does it cost currently in your country?

    I haven't done any research into GPUs yet, so i don't know xD

  • @PuDLeZ said:

    @noob404 said:

    @PuDLeZ said:
    I am going to be stepping away for a little bit. I need to go outside again and shovel/clear the additional snow we got over night. Guess the National Weather Service says my area got between 5.1 and 6.5 (they don't have a dot near me but between the various dots, they're all between that). From our walk this morning, I'd guess we got about 6

    Are these values like mm of snowfall or something?

    inches. My brain doesn't think meters as I was only taught imperial growing up. I also don't know C though I can do a rought estimate in my head converting. I googled, it's like 152.4mm.

    I do use 24hr time though. Growing up, my grandpa always used it so I switch to it to "learn" it and then it kind of just stuck with me. It's funny, I used to have to convert 24hr to 12hr (AM/PM) to understand what time, now it's the opposite :lol:

    Imperial system in US? Are you taught both systems in school there?

  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:

    @BasToTheMax said:

    @noob404 said:
    Getting kinda late here. Might have to call it a day soon.

    Have a good night!

    Got a few more minutes in me, I guess.
    BTW, whats your dream GPU for now and how much does it cost currently in your country?

    I haven't done any research into GPUs yet, so i don't know xD

    Oh ok. Will depend on your use purpose. For gaming, I guess AMD is bang for buck, for AI, NVIDIA is just better due to the convenience

    Thanked by 1BasToTheMax
  • MahdiMirzadehMahdiMirzadeh Member
    edited November 2025

    @noob404 said:

    @MahdiMirzadeh said:

    @noob404 said:
    @MahdiMirzadeh I plan on getting the same reseller at same location - Frankfurt next year, if everything goes as expected. If it's ok, kindly share some tips for someone looking to get into the reseller hosting business - maybe some marketing tips.

    It depends on what type of social media networks your target audience and the country where you are from use, for example from where I'm from most people use Telegram & Twitter and a forum like lowendtalk is not really popular

    Here is a simple yet affective approach in telegram that I've used back when I was active:
    1. I'll contact some small telegram bot owners/support accounts that I know have a public channel/group and ask if they want a free/sponsored host
    2. if they want one, I'll give them a 24h test account and if they want to commit I'll renew it for 6 months (it'll be a reasonable price after that free 6 months), all they have to do is to forward some of our hosting's channel's posts/offers, we'll tell them what posts to forward in a sponsored users group
    3. The thing is that the posts can't be too many for them to forward, it'll be annoying; just 1 post per month is good, you can also automate these promotions by creating a telegram bot that will automatically do this and auto-check to make sure the admin didn't delete the post or something (for example only for the first 48 hours)

    In this method you'll be supporting the community around you and get a few shout-outs in return.

    Collaborations also go a long way, talking to well known communities in the web dev/hosting categories and offering limited coupons or free services for their members members, will give you a lot of traffic and sign-ups, the channel owner will also be thrilled for being able to give their members some good deals and coupons that other communities won't be able to do

    Because your reseller is basically free (if won in giveaways) you don't have to worry about the cost of renewing the reseller and you can afford giving away free hosts for some time until you can make those free sponsored people to paid customers or have other people sign up and buy your services based on the ads
    Managing the plans and giveaways falls down to your own experience in the space, like should you give people 5GB hosts for 2 months? or a 50MB host for 12 months?

    You should also make users want to upgrade from free accounts based on the cpanel's package limitations, like free hosts will only be able to have 1 database, no addon domain, etc

    Note: the domain for free hosts will always be a random sub-domain of your own domain that will point to your hosting, do not give away free services that users can use without being attached to you in public, if you give them a free host with their own domain, why would they want to ever pay you?

    Make sure to not give these sub domains from your own hosting website, someone might do something weird and you don't want to be directly associated with it, just redirect that domain to a page in your main website that explains domain XYZ is for free hosts/services from this hosting, this way you'll keep your promotion and also people will know who to report to if something went wrong.

    We can talk more specifics in PM, this post is getting too long but I think some of the points made in this post might slightly help others with their marketing and give-aways if they ever wanted to do one...

    This is gold. I would have never thought about using Telegram channels to promote the hosting service. My best bet would have been reddit. But, what you said makes much better sense.
    And, thanks for the awesome tip on not using the primary domain for providing free domain. I will PM you later on if I do proceed with it.
    Thanks a lot for this. I have screenshot this and will read it again when/if I do go ahead with this.

    I'll be glad if I can help you with your journey, telegram bots are so good for free hosting, because they are usually way more lightweight than websites, they are mostly using php to run them which is handled super fast and doesn't effect the server that much

    You can give away a lot of them compared to free hosts for websites which might be using wordpress or some other platform that might take a lot of processing

    It's a really cheap way to promote because a lot of those people who will see your posts might be interested in your actual products, they'll sign up and become a customer

    Also make sure to have an active support account and a good discussion group in telegram if you are taking this route, don't make the users go outside of the app and use your websites chat feature if they have saw your hosting in the app

    Thanked by 1noob404
  • @MahdiMirzadeh said:

    @noob404 said:

    @MahdiMirzadeh said:

    @noob404 said:
    @MahdiMirzadeh I plan on getting the same reseller at same location - Frankfurt next year, if everything goes as expected. If it's ok, kindly share some tips for someone looking to get into the reseller hosting business - maybe some marketing tips.

    It depends on what type of social media networks your target audience and the country where you are from use, for example from where I'm from most people use Telegram & Twitter and a forum like lowendtalk is not really popular

    Here is a simple yet affective approach in telegram that I've used back when I was active:
    1. I'll contact some small telegram bot owners/support accounts that I know have a public channel/group and ask if they want a free/sponsored host
    2. if they want one, I'll give them a 24h test account and if they want to commit I'll renew it for 6 months (it'll be a reasonable price after that free 6 months), all they have to do is to forward some of our hosting's channel's posts/offers, we'll tell them what posts to forward in a sponsored users group
    3. The thing is that the posts can't be too many for them to forward, it'll be annoying; just 1 post per month is good, you can also automate these promotions by creating a telegram bot that will automatically do this and auto-check to make sure the admin didn't delete the post or something (for example only for the first 48 hours)

    In this method you'll be supporting the community around you and get a few shout-outs in return.

    Collaborations also go a long way, talking to well known communities in the web dev/hosting categories and offering limited coupons or free services for their members members, will give you a lot of traffic and sign-ups, the channel owner will also be thrilled for being able to give their members some good deals and coupons that other communities won't be able to do

    Because your reseller is basically free (if won in giveaways) you don't have to worry about the cost of renewing the reseller and you can afford giving away free hosts for some time until you can make those free sponsored people to paid customers or have other people sign up and buy your services based on the ads
    Managing the plans and giveaways falls down to your own experience in the space, like should you give people 5GB hosts for 2 months? or a 50MB host for 12 months?

    You should also make users want to upgrade from free accounts based on the cpanel's package limitations, like free hosts will only be able to have 1 database, no addon domain, etc

    Note: the domain for free hosts will always be a random sub-domain of your own domain that will point to your hosting, do not give away free services that users can use without being attached to you in public, if you give them a free host with their own domain, why would they want to ever pay you?

    Make sure to not give these sub domains from your own hosting website, someone might do something weird and you don't want to be directly associated with it, just redirect that domain to a page in your main website that explains domain XYZ is for free hosts/services from this hosting, this way you'll keep your promotion and also people will know who to report to if something went wrong.

    We can talk more specifics in PM, this post is getting too long but I think some of the points made in this post might slightly help others with their marketing and give-aways if they ever wanted to do one...

    This is gold. I would have never thought about using Telegram channels to promote the hosting service. My best bet would have been reddit. But, what you said makes much better sense.
    And, thanks for the awesome tip on not using the primary domain for providing free domain. I will PM you later on if I do proceed with it.
    Thanks a lot for this. I have screenshot this and will read it again when/if I do go ahead with this.

    I'll be glad if I can help you with your journey, telegram bots are so good for free hosting, because they are usually way more lightweight than websites, they are mostly using php to run them which is handled super fast and doesn't effect the server that much

    You can give away a lot of them compared to free hosts for websites which might be using wordpress or some other platform that might take a lot of processing

    It's a really cheap way to promote because a lot of those people who will see your posts might be interested in your actual products, they'll sign up and become a customer

    Also make sure to have an active support account and a good discussion group in telegram if you are taking this route, don't make the users go out of the app if they have saw your hosting in the app

    Thanks for that. I do have some experience with Telegram Bot. Built a reminder app for a client an year or so back. Testing with the not is also easier from what I remember since the webhook doesn't need to have SSL. Moreover, since TG bot servers can now be built from source and installed on locally as well.

  • @noob404 said:

    @PuDLeZ said:

    @noob404 said:

    @PuDLeZ said:
    I am going to be stepping away for a little bit. I need to go outside again and shovel/clear the additional snow we got over night. Guess the National Weather Service says my area got between 5.1 and 6.5 (they don't have a dot near me but between the various dots, they're all between that). From our walk this morning, I'd guess we got about 6

    Are these values like mm of snowfall or something?

    inches. My brain doesn't think meters as I was only taught imperial growing up. I also don't know C though I can do a rought estimate in my head converting. I googled, it's like 152.4mm.

    I do use 24hr time though. Growing up, my grandpa always used it so I switch to it to "learn" it and then it kind of just stuck with me. It's funny, I used to have to convert 24hr to 12hr (AM/PM) to understand what time, now it's the opposite :lol:

    Imperial system in US? Are you taught both systems in school there?

    @noob404 said:

    @PuDLeZ said:

    @noob404 said:

    @PuDLeZ said:
    I am going to be stepping away for a little bit. I need to go outside again and shovel/clear the additional snow we got over night. Guess the National Weather Service says my area got between 5.1 and 6.5 (they don't have a dot near me but between the various dots, they're all between that). From our walk this morning, I'd guess we got about 6

    Are these values like mm of snowfall or something?

    inches. My brain doesn't think meters as I was only taught imperial growing up. I also don't know C though I can do a rought estimate in my head converting. I googled, it's like 152.4mm.

    I do use 24hr time though. Growing up, my grandpa always used it so I switch to it to "learn" it and then it kind of just stuck with me. It's funny, I used to have to convert 24hr to 12hr (AM/PM) to understand what time, now it's the opposite :lol:

    Imperial system in US? Are you taught both systems in school there?

    We are taught how to convert in math class and do use it a little in some science classes but that's about it. Basically just for those lessons/sections and nothing more. Everything else is imperial so unless you use it often, our brains just don't think it. It's the same way with the whole 12/24 time. If an average person asked you what time it is and you tell them 17:00, they will give you this confused expression until you say 5pm (just picked a random time)

  • @noob404 said:

    @MahdiMirzadeh said:

    @noob404 said:

    @MahdiMirzadeh said:

    @noob404 said:
    @MahdiMirzadeh I plan on getting the same reseller at same location - Frankfurt next year, if everything goes as expected. If it's ok, kindly share some tips for someone looking to get into the reseller hosting business - maybe some marketing tips.

    It depends on what type of social media networks your target audience and the country where you are from use, for example from where I'm from most people use Telegram & Twitter and a forum like lowendtalk is not really popular

    Here is a simple yet affective approach in telegram that I've used back when I was active:
    1. I'll contact some small telegram bot owners/support accounts that I know have a public channel/group and ask if they want a free/sponsored host
    2. if they want one, I'll give them a 24h test account and if they want to commit I'll renew it for 6 months (it'll be a reasonable price after that free 6 months), all they have to do is to forward some of our hosting's channel's posts/offers, we'll tell them what posts to forward in a sponsored users group
    3. The thing is that the posts can't be too many for them to forward, it'll be annoying; just 1 post per month is good, you can also automate these promotions by creating a telegram bot that will automatically do this and auto-check to make sure the admin didn't delete the post or something (for example only for the first 48 hours)

    In this method you'll be supporting the community around you and get a few shout-outs in return.

    Collaborations also go a long way, talking to well known communities in the web dev/hosting categories and offering limited coupons or free services for their members members, will give you a lot of traffic and sign-ups, the channel owner will also be thrilled for being able to give their members some good deals and coupons that other communities won't be able to do

    Because your reseller is basically free (if won in giveaways) you don't have to worry about the cost of renewing the reseller and you can afford giving away free hosts for some time until you can make those free sponsored people to paid customers or have other people sign up and buy your services based on the ads
    Managing the plans and giveaways falls down to your own experience in the space, like should you give people 5GB hosts for 2 months? or a 50MB host for 12 months?

    You should also make users want to upgrade from free accounts based on the cpanel's package limitations, like free hosts will only be able to have 1 database, no addon domain, etc

    Note: the domain for free hosts will always be a random sub-domain of your own domain that will point to your hosting, do not give away free services that users can use without being attached to you in public, if you give them a free host with their own domain, why would they want to ever pay you?

    Make sure to not give these sub domains from your own hosting website, someone might do something weird and you don't want to be directly associated with it, just redirect that domain to a page in your main website that explains domain XYZ is for free hosts/services from this hosting, this way you'll keep your promotion and also people will know who to report to if something went wrong.

    We can talk more specifics in PM, this post is getting too long but I think some of the points made in this post might slightly help others with their marketing and give-aways if they ever wanted to do one...

    This is gold. I would have never thought about using Telegram channels to promote the hosting service. My best bet would have been reddit. But, what you said makes much better sense.
    And, thanks for the awesome tip on not using the primary domain for providing free domain. I will PM you later on if I do proceed with it.
    Thanks a lot for this. I have screenshot this and will read it again when/if I do go ahead with this.

    I'll be glad if I can help you with your journey, telegram bots are so good for free hosting, because they are usually way more lightweight than websites, they are mostly using php to run them which is handled super fast and doesn't effect the server that much

    You can give away a lot of them compared to free hosts for websites which might be using wordpress or some other platform that might take a lot of processing

    It's a really cheap way to promote because a lot of those people who will see your posts might be interested in your actual products, they'll sign up and become a customer

    Also make sure to have an active support account and a good discussion group in telegram if you are taking this route, don't make the users go out of the app if they have saw your hosting in the app

    Thanks for that. I do have some experience with Telegram Bot. Built a reminder app for a client an year or so back. Testing with the not is also easier from what I remember since the webhook doesn't need to have SSL. Moreover, since TG bot servers can now be built from source and installed on locally as well.

    yes telegram has done a lot of good changes to the API over the years, like setting ip addresses to your webhook makes it so telegram doesn't have to look up your domain's IP and delivers them faster, having a local server is also good but it might be a bit overkill if you don't have that many users

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @noob404 said:

    I can only recognise Winnie the Pooh. More of a Tom & Jerry man myself :lol:
    But, the current ones can't beat the classics. WIsh Gen-z understood that.

    Wasn't there a Poo horror movie released recently?

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @bchot said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @bchot said:

    @noob404 said:
    Hey, guys. Anyone online, hype squad?

    i'm here for a bit, but gotta do some chores. just sitting with my furry guy for a bit.. gonna look thru megathread now.

    What? Don't tell me you're a furry?

    my guy is furry, i am usually bold AF.. =)

    :D

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Slowly catching up. Dinner time first....

    What's for dinner?

    Had lasagna. Taking it easy on Sundays.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @bchot said:
    so much is sold in NL and USA, neither of the locales i am looking for.. saw Albania there but too expensive, Chile too.. I like across the world, exotic places, but also would love them affordable..

    Albania from solid?

    Is there a good use purpose or kinda like a niche purpose of these rare location VPSes?

    Probably cos its a niche markets. More expensive than locations nearby and connectivity doesn't differ much.

  • @PuDLeZ said:

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    I am going to be stepping away for a little bit. I need to go outside again and shovel/clear the additional snow we got over night. Guess the National Weather Service says my area got between 5.1 and 6.5 (they don't have a dot near me but between the various dots, they're all between that). From our walk this morning, I'd guess we got about 6

    Are these values like mm of snowfall or something?

    inches. My brain doesn't think meters as I was only taught imperial growing up. I also don't know C though I can do a rought estimate in my head converting. I googled, it's like 152.4mm.

    I do use 24hr time though. Growing up, my grandpa always used it so I switch to it to "learn" it and then it kind of just stuck with me. It's funny, I used to have to convert 24hr to 12hr (AM/PM) to understand what time, now it's the opposite :lol:

    Imperial system in US? Are you taught both systems in school there?

    @noob404 said:

    @PuDLeZ said:

    @noob404 said:

    @PuDLeZ said:
    I am going to be stepping away for a little bit. I need to go outside again and shovel/clear the additional snow we got over night. Guess the National Weather Service says my area got between 5.1 and 6.5 (they don't have a dot near me but between the various dots, they're all between that). From our walk this morning, I'd guess we got about 6

    Are these values like mm of snowfall or something?

    inches. My brain doesn't think meters as I was only taught imperial growing up. I also don't know C though I can do a rought estimate in my head converting. I googled, it's like 152.4mm.

    I do use 24hr time though. Growing up, my grandpa always used it so I switch to it to "learn" it and then it kind of just stuck with me. It's funny, I used to have to convert 24hr to 12hr (AM/PM) to understand what time, now it's the opposite :lol:

    Imperial system in US? Are you taught both systems in school there?

    We are taught how to convert in math class and do use it a little in some science classes but that's about it. Basically just for those lessons/sections and nothing more. Everything else is imperial so unless you use it often, our brains just don't think it. It's the same way with the whole 12/24 time. If an average person asked you what time it is and you tell them 17:00, they will give you this confused expression until you say 5pm (just picked a random time)

    It is the same way for us as well. We are taught basic to mid-advanced conversion and then real-life takes care of the rest. For example, railway timings in India are in the 24 hour format.

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @bchot said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @bchot said:
    so much is sold in NL and USA, neither of the locales i am looking for.. saw Albania there but too expensive, Chile too.. I like across the world, exotic places, but also would love them affordable..

    Albania from solid?

    i think was some Albanian provider. host.al or something. was actually 2 offers from there. i used to have one in some do-all-countries hosting, but was like $7/mo and didn't really work for me in general..

    Oh I saw the offer. Was like 18/y. Almost purchased it.

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  • @MahdiMirzadeh said:

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    @noob404 said:
    @MahdiMirzadeh I plan on getting the same reseller at same location - Frankfurt next year, if everything goes as expected. If it's ok, kindly share some tips for someone looking to get into the reseller hosting business - maybe some marketing tips.

    It depends on what type of social media networks your target audience and the country where you are from use, for example from where I'm from most people use Telegram & Twitter and a forum like lowendtalk is not really popular

    Here is a simple yet affective approach in telegram that I've used back when I was active:
    1. I'll contact some small telegram bot owners/support accounts that I know have a public channel/group and ask if they want a free/sponsored host
    2. if they want one, I'll give them a 24h test account and if they want to commit I'll renew it for 6 months (it'll be a reasonable price after that free 6 months), all they have to do is to forward some of our hosting's channel's posts/offers, we'll tell them what posts to forward in a sponsored users group
    3. The thing is that the posts can't be too many for them to forward, it'll be annoying; just 1 post per month is good, you can also automate these promotions by creating a telegram bot that will automatically do this and auto-check to make sure the admin didn't delete the post or something (for example only for the first 48 hours)

    In this method you'll be supporting the community around you and get a few shout-outs in return.

    Collaborations also go a long way, talking to well known communities in the web dev/hosting categories and offering limited coupons or free services for their members members, will give you a lot of traffic and sign-ups, the channel owner will also be thrilled for being able to give their members some good deals and coupons that other communities won't be able to do

    Because your reseller is basically free (if won in giveaways) you don't have to worry about the cost of renewing the reseller and you can afford giving away free hosts for some time until you can make those free sponsored people to paid customers or have other people sign up and buy your services based on the ads
    Managing the plans and giveaways falls down to your own experience in the space, like should you give people 5GB hosts for 2 months? or a 50MB host for 12 months?

    You should also make users want to upgrade from free accounts based on the cpanel's package limitations, like free hosts will only be able to have 1 database, no addon domain, etc

    Note: the domain for free hosts will always be a random sub-domain of your own domain that will point to your hosting, do not give away free services that users can use without being attached to you in public, if you give them a free host with their own domain, why would they want to ever pay you?

    Make sure to not give these sub domains from your own hosting website, someone might do something weird and you don't want to be directly associated with it, just redirect that domain to a page in your main website that explains domain XYZ is for free hosts/services from this hosting, this way you'll keep your promotion and also people will know who to report to if something went wrong.

    We can talk more specifics in PM, this post is getting too long but I think some of the points made in this post might slightly help others with their marketing and give-aways if they ever wanted to do one...

    This is gold. I would have never thought about using Telegram channels to promote the hosting service. My best bet would have been reddit. But, what you said makes much better sense.
    And, thanks for the awesome tip on not using the primary domain for providing free domain. I will PM you later on if I do proceed with it.
    Thanks a lot for this. I have screenshot this and will read it again when/if I do go ahead with this.

    I'll be glad if I can help you with your journey, telegram bots are so good for free hosting, because they are usually way more lightweight than websites, they are mostly using php to run them which is handled super fast and doesn't effect the server that much

    You can give away a lot of them compared to free hosts for websites which might be using wordpress or some other platform that might take a lot of processing

    It's a really cheap way to promote because a lot of those people who will see your posts might be interested in your actual products, they'll sign up and become a customer

    Also make sure to have an active support account and a good discussion group in telegram if you are taking this route, don't make the users go out of the app if they have saw your hosting in the app

    Thanks for that. I do have some experience with Telegram Bot. Built a reminder app for a client an year or so back. Testing with the not is also easier from what I remember since the webhook doesn't need to have SSL. Moreover, since TG bot servers can now be built from source and installed on locally as well.

    yes telegram has done a lot of good changes to the API over the years, like setting ip addresses to your webhook makes it so telegram doesn't have to look up your domain's IP and delivers them faster, having a local server is also good but it might be a bit overkill if you don't have that many users

    Yah. True. I love the PHP SDK they have. And yes, I would prolly is their official bot than set up one locally when I go ahead with it. Haven't touched the SDK in quite some time now. Will need a quick look at it to understand what has changed

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  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    I can only recognise Winnie the Pooh. More of a Tom & Jerry man myself :lol:
    But, the current ones can't beat the classics. WIsh Gen-z understood that.

    Wasn't there a Poo horror movie released recently?

    When? I haven't heard about it.

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  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:
    Slowly catching up. Dinner time first....

    What's for dinner?

    Had lasagna. Taking it easy on Sundays.

    Oh. I love lasagna. It's not very popular here. Had lasagna recently and I fell in love. First tried veg with zucchini and other veggies. That was good, but chicken's much better

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @lovelyserver said:

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    @lovelyserver said:
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    Free double bandwidth please.

    Thank you @noob404
    Thank you @dustinc

    Anytime, dude. I hope you enjoy your VPS. Got any plans for it?

    Hestiacp of course

    2 Years ago, when I first setup my VPS for hosting (atleast seriously), I gave up completely on these panels. Tried a few like aapanel, hestia, etc. Imo, they just added a layer of complication, atleast for me. I dunno if they are better now.

    For example, my project needed specific PHP modules that weren't built in by default and the server won't let me cause, I needed to have 4GB+ RAM just to build it. That's when I decided I am gonna do it manually.

    I like to do it manually as well. Used Vesta before it went to shita. Hestia is kinda ok when I'm lazy :). But got some reseller hosting whenever I can't be bothered to set up a sever these days.

    I think I'll get rid of most of the vps, because I've got some shared hosting and reseller quite good specs, so it's easier with, no maintenance.

    So,... I'm thinking of keeping 2 or 3 VPS just for fun.

    Yeah, I like the total control you have with vm/dedicated but its more work to maintain. And there's no redundancy unless you go cloud.

    So yeah, shared is a good alternative if you have something powerful and reliable. Most cost effective as well.

    For anything serious I usually cluster ateast 2 Dedis. Want disks to be in raid so yeah, that adds up.

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  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @noob404 said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @bchot said:
    so much is sold in NL and USA, neither of the locales i am looking for.. saw Albania there but too expensive, Chile too.. I like across the world, exotic places, but also would love them affordable..

    Albania from solid?

    Is there a good use purpose or kinda like a niche purpose of these rare location VPSes?

    Probably cos its a niche markets. More expensive than locations nearby and connectivity doesn't differ much.

    I mean I see there are people buying it who don't prolly have Alabania-specific needs. I am wondering if there's any other use to getting these VPSes for any specific purpose that's not talked about a lot.

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