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  • networknetwork Member

    @zejjnt said:
    I think you might be looking at the wrong solution if your data is so sensitive that you're afraid of even showing the approximate amount of characters in the file names, yet go for the cheapest service possible.

    Just sayin.

    I'm not, just mentioning that it's not full encryption like Restic and other backup tools do. Crypt is an excellent lightweight solution.

  • x1archx1arch Member
    edited November 2025

    @network said:

    @x1arch said:

    @network said:

    @x1arch said:

    @rohitsingh1333 said:

    @network said:

    @rohitsingh1333 said:
    Is JuiceFS faster than rclone mount ftp? As I am getting almost the desired results with it.

    What are you using rclone mount ftp for?

    Testing for immich, I know it's not secure, but perf is great!

    Try rclone encryption wraper, that's will be secure.

    Yes, this. My transfer speeds above were for rclone with crypt over sftp. All my data stored on Hostbrr is fully encrypted. Note that it does leak some details, like the size and approx path length since each file is mapped 1:1 from source to target.

    Turn on encryption for dir names

    Yes, but the approx length of the path and size of each file is still exposed.

    Wrap to rclone chunker 😅

    Thanked by 1network
  • philwatcherphilwatcher Member

    @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Are you using SSHFS to provide an SFTP connection with an SSH key, or just the default access key and secret key? This wouldn’t be secure, right? Because it uses SSH with a password.

    You can add keys just like with any other machine :)

    I'm not seeing any mention of how to use ssh-key in these docs, though.
    https://juicefs.com/docs/community/reference/how_to_set_up_object_storage#sftp

    Yeah, that is the downside. Keys are not supported, only username+password. As I only use the storagebox for this, I just accept it.

  • zejjntzejjnt Member

    Dammit wrong AMDs on sale now I'm sad

  • JohnFilch123JohnFilch123 Member

    Waiting for Turin.

  • zejjntzejjnt Member

    @JohnFilch123 said:
    Waiting for Turin.

    I'm kinda giving up by now. They are already on the order page on another place but without the discounts - yet they are named the same thing :/

  • JohnFilch123JohnFilch123 Member

    @zejjnt said: I'm kinda giving up by now

    I never have hopes. If I can get the offer - I get it. If it is gone, so be it.

    Thanked by 2zejjnt Rolter
  • zejjntzejjnt Member

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @zejjnt said: I'm kinda giving up by now

    I never have hopes. If I can get the offer - I get it. If it is gone, so be it.

    You are a smarter human than I am

  • JohnFilch123JohnFilch123 Member

    @zejjnt said: You are a smarter human than I am

    Habits, my friend, habits...

  • lurchlurch Member

    @labze said:

    @lurch said:
    Will there be a Turin restock?

    Yes, tomorrow or sometime hereafter. Just a backlog of orders and tickets that needs to be handled before I unleash next wave.

    Stop being a tease!

  • memokmemok Member

    Has anyone ordered 9950X3D? Can you share the yabs results?

  • zejjntzejjnt Member

    @memok said:
    Has anyone ordered 9950X3D? Can you share the yabs results?

    Someone in the megathread did at least

  • PlatonksPlatonks Member

    @zejjnt said:

    @memok said:
    Has anyone ordered 9950X3D? Can you share the yabs results?

    Someone in the megathread did at least

    I did not see someone posted it on the megathread of that specific vds, so i made my yabs for it and posted it on the megathread.

  • zejjntzejjnt Member

    @memok said:
    Has anyone ordered 9950X3D? Can you share the yabs results?

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4636859/#Comment_4636859

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  • op23op23 Member

    Yabs looks great.

    Now hoping for a turin restock with ability to attach block storage.

    Thanked by 1zejjnt
  • memokmemok Member

    @op23 said:
    Yabs looks great.

    Now hoping for a turin restock with ability to attach block storage.

    It's been 2 days but there is still no stock. I hope the stock will be added.

    Thanked by 2op23 zejjnt
  • Motion3549Motion3549 Member

    @philwatcher said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Are you using SSHFS to provide an SFTP connection with an SSH key, or just the default access key and secret key? This wouldn’t be secure, right? Because it uses SSH with a password.

    You can add keys just like with any other machine :)

    I'm not seeing any mention of how to use ssh-key in these docs, though.
    https://juicefs.com/docs/community/reference/how_to_set_up_object_storage#sftp

    Yeah, that is the downside. Keys are not supported, only username+password. As I only use the storagebox for this, I just accept it.

    I finally found a way. Also, do you use SQLite or Redis? It seems Redis offers better performance.

  • rungkadmenrungkadmen Member

    need more turin and TR

    Thanked by 3zejjnt op23 schneitomee
  • schneitomeeschneitomee Member
    edited December 2025

    @labze said:

    Important info

    Please do consider your purchases before making a order, and please don't order all available services just to test out each package.

    This not only tests the goodwill of our refund policy but it also puts a unneeded burden of processing these refunds and of course the significant fee it incurs for us.

    It may be the last Black Friday that we'll offer refunds on these packages.

    Hi @labze,
    Please restock Threadripper 6 GB if possiible!
    I don't want to test it, I want to use it!
    Thank you very much!

  • sayyikusayyiku Member

    Please check tickets 5528827

  • yitiantiandeshuoyitiantiandeshuo Member

    Can I still get the discounted price for the AMD Ryzen 9950X VDS Germany - 1 Gbps?

  • philwatcherphilwatcher Member

    @Motion3549 said:

    @philwatcher said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Are you using SSHFS to provide an SFTP connection with an SSH key, or just the default access key and secret key? This wouldn’t be secure, right? Because it uses SSH with a password.

    You can add keys just like with any other machine :)

    I'm not seeing any mention of how to use ssh-key in these docs, though.
    https://juicefs.com/docs/community/reference/how_to_set_up_object_storage#sftp

    Yeah, that is the downside. Keys are not supported, only username+password. As I only use the storagebox for this, I just accept it.

    I finally found a way. Also, do you use SQLite or Redis? It seems Redis offers better performance.

    How did you do it? I would love to do so as well but was too stupid to figure it out.

    I used SQlite in the past for ease of backups, although JuiceFS does periodic metadata dumps as well. I tried Redis (valkey) for performance, found no difference but using Redis I can mount the FS from several machines at the same time - I use it to backup my files on my homeserver, as mentioned above. I think it makes no difference, the performance bottleneck will be the speed to the storagebox.

    I thought about using MySQL as metadata DB and store that on the storagebox MySQL instance, so that all data is on one machine and I don't have two points of failure, only one. Depending on your latency from the VPS to the storage box, this may suck hard however.

  • Motion3549Motion3549 Member

    How did you do it? I would love to do so as well but was too stupid to figure it out.

    I used SQlite in the past for ease of backups, although JuiceFS does periodic metadata dumps as well. I tried Redis (valkey) for performance, found no difference but using Redis I can mount the FS from several machines at the same time - I use it to backup my files on my homeserver, as mentioned above. I think it makes no difference, the performance bottleneck will be the speed to the storagebox.

    I thought about using MySQL as metadata DB and store that on the storagebox MySQL instance, so that all data is on one machine and I don't have two points of failure, only one. Depending on your latency from the VPS to the storage box, this may suck hard however.

    eval "$(ssh-agent -s)"
ssh-add .ssh/id_rsa
echo $SSH_AGENT_PID
    Thanked by 1zejjnt
  • networknetwork Member

    Did anyone buy any HDD VPS plan (not Storage Box)? I seem to be getting around 10-20MB/s read/write on the HDD directory. Wondering if this is expected performance or something else is wrong. For comparison, my storage box is easily 5x+ faster.

  • gigazilgigazil Member

    cached vs non-cached

  • zejjntzejjnt Member

    @network said:
    Did anyone buy any HDD VPS plan (not Storage Box)? I seem to be getting around 10-20MB/s read/write on the HDD directory. Wondering if this is expected performance or something else is wrong. For comparison, my storage box is easily 5x+ faster.

    Obviously not expected, send ticket.

  • networknetwork Member

    @gigazil said:
    cached vs non-cached

    I got a sustained 60MB+/s write when I transferred in 100GB+ into the storage box yesterday.

  • zejjntzejjnt Member

    @Motion3549 said:

    How did you do it? I would love to do so as well but was too stupid to figure it out.

    I used SQlite in the past for ease of backups, although JuiceFS does periodic metadata dumps as well. I tried Redis (valkey) for performance, found no difference but using Redis I can mount the FS from several machines at the same time - I use it to backup my files on my homeserver, as mentioned above. I think it makes no difference, the performance bottleneck will be the speed to the storagebox.

    I thought about using MySQL as metadata DB and store that on the storagebox MySQL instance, so that all data is on one machine and I don't have two points of failure, only one. Depending on your latency from the VPS to the storage box, this may suck hard however.

    eval "$(ssh-agent -s)"
ssh-add .ssh/id_rsa
echo $SSH_AGENT_PID

    You should be able to shorten it by just eval "$(ssh-agent)";

  • networknetwork Member

    @zejjnt said:

    @network said:
    Did anyone buy any HDD VPS plan (not Storage Box)? I seem to be getting around 10-20MB/s read/write on the HDD directory. Wondering if this is expected performance or something else is wrong. For comparison, my storage box is easily 5x+ faster.

    Obviously not expected, send ticket.

    Ok, I will do some more tests before doing that.

  • FritzFritz Veteran

    @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Please share the steps. :)

    Thanked by 1BasToTheMax
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