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HostBrr | BF2025 Deals | AMD Threadripper VPS €15/year | 1 TB Storage just €1/month! More Inside

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  • Told ya :)

  • @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Are you using SSHFS to provide an SFTP connection with an SSH key, or just the default access key and secret key? This wouldn’t be secure, right? Because it uses SSH with a password.

  • @Motion3549 said:

    @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Are you using SSHFS to provide an SFTP connection with an SSH key, or just the default access key and secret key? This wouldn’t be secure, right? Because it uses SSH with a password.

    You can add keys just like with any other machine :)

  • @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Are you using SSHFS to provide an SFTP connection with an SSH key, or just the default access key and secret key? This wouldn’t be secure, right? Because it uses SSH with a password.

    You can add keys just like with any other machine :)

    I'm not seeing any mention of how to use ssh-key in these docs, though.
    https://juicefs.com/docs/community/reference/how_to_set_up_object_storage#sftp

  • @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Are you using SSHFS to provide an SFTP connection with an SSH key, or just the default access key and secret key? This wouldn’t be secure, right? Because it uses SSH with a password.

    You can add keys just like with any other machine :)

    I'm not seeing any mention of how to use ssh-key in these docs, though.
    https://juicefs.com/docs/community/reference/how_to_set_up_object_storage#sftp


    Ie. standard Linux procedure :)

    Thanked by 1Motion3549
  • Got my 3TB Threadripper working.

    YABS:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-04-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Sun Nov 30 10:29:42 GMT 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes
    Processor  : AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 9995WX 96-Cores
    CPU cores  : 1 @ 2500.018 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 2.9 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 19.3 GiB
    Distro     : Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS
    Kernel     : 6.8.0-88-generic
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : IPPv
    ASN        : AS48314 Michael Sebastian Schinzel trading as IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co. KG
    Host       : IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co.
    Location   : Waldbrunn, Bavaria (BY)
    Country    : Germany
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 385.28 MB/s  (96.3k) | 1.35 GB/s    (21.1k)
    Write      | 386.29 MB/s  (96.5k) | 1.36 GB/s    (21.2k)
    Total      | 771.57 MB/s (192.8k) | 2.71 GB/s    (42.3k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.27 GB/s     (2.4k) | 1.13 GB/s     (1.1k)
    Write      | 1.34 GB/s     (2.6k) | 1.21 GB/s     (1.1k)
    Total      | 2.61 GB/s     (5.1k) | 2.34 GB/s     (2.2k)
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 2599
    Multi Core      | 2578
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/15314506
    
    YABS completed in 6 min 47 sec
    

    HDD:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vdb1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.44 MB/s      (361) | 16.01 MB/s     (250)
    Write      | 1.47 MB/s      (367) | 16.51 MB/s     (258)
    Total      | 2.91 MB/s      (728) | 32.53 MB/s     (508)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 53.61 MB/s     (104) | 66.55 MB/s      (64)
    Write      | 56.63 MB/s     (110) | 70.98 MB/s      (69)
    Total      | 110.24 MB/s    (214) | 137.53 MB/s    (133)
    
    Thanked by 2zejjnt vastness4594
  • @network said:
    Got my 3TB Threadripper working.

    YABS:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2025-04-20                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Sun Nov 30 10:29:42 GMT 2025
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes
    Processor  : AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 9995WX 96-Cores
    CPU cores  : 1 @ 2500.018 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 2.9 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 19.3 GiB
    Distro     : Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS
    Kernel     : 6.8.0-88-generic
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : IPPv
    ASN        : AS48314 Michael Sebastian Schinzel trading as IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co. KG
    Host       : IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co.
    Location   : Waldbrunn, Bavaria (BY)
    Country    : Germany
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 385.28 MB/s  (96.3k) | 1.35 GB/s    (21.1k)
    Write      | 386.29 MB/s  (96.5k) | 1.36 GB/s    (21.2k)
    Total      | 771.57 MB/s (192.8k) | 2.71 GB/s    (42.3k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.27 GB/s     (2.4k) | 1.13 GB/s     (1.1k)
    Write      | 1.34 GB/s     (2.6k) | 1.21 GB/s     (1.1k)
    Total      | 2.61 GB/s     (5.1k) | 2.34 GB/s     (2.2k)
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 2599
    Multi Core      | 2578
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/15314506
    
    YABS completed in 6 min 47 sec
    

    HDD:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vdb1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.44 MB/s      (361) | 16.01 MB/s     (250)
    Write      | 1.47 MB/s      (367) | 16.51 MB/s     (258)
    Total      | 2.91 MB/s      (728) | 32.53 MB/s     (508)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 53.61 MB/s     (104) | 66.55 MB/s      (64)
    Write      | 56.63 MB/s     (110) | 70.98 MB/s      (69)
    Total      | 110.24 MB/s    (214) | 137.53 MB/s    (133)
    

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    GOOOOOOOOO

  • At this point I'm afraid Labze dozed off in a rack, haven't seen him in 36 hours.
    I mean, I didn't look, but still.

    Thanked by 1dzungbb
  • @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Are you using SSHFS to provide an SFTP connection with an SSH key, or just the default access key and secret key? This wouldn’t be secure, right? Because it uses SSH with a password.

    You can add keys just like with any other machine :)

    I'm not seeing any mention of how to use ssh-key in these docs, though.
    https://juicefs.com/docs/community/reference/how_to_set_up_object_storage#sftp


    Ie. standard Linux procedure :)

    Mind sharing how to set it up? I use this command; it seems JuiceFS does not recognize an alias in .ssh/config.

    juicefs format \
    --storage=sftp \
    --bucket=somealias:/mnt/storage/ \
    redis://localhost:6379/1 myjfs

  • @zejjnt said:
    At this point I'm afraid Labze dozed off in a rack, haven't seen him in 36 hours.
    I mean, I didn't look, but still.

    Yeah. Just wait and see

  • zejjntzejjnt Member
    edited November 2025

    @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Are you using SSHFS to provide an SFTP connection with an SSH key, or just the default access key and secret key? This wouldn’t be secure, right? Because it uses SSH with a password.

    You can add keys just like with any other machine :)

    I'm not seeing any mention of how to use ssh-key in these docs, though.
    https://juicefs.com/docs/community/reference/how_to_set_up_object_storage#sftp


    Ie. standard Linux procedure :)

    Mind sharing how to set it up? I use this command; it seems JuiceFS does not recognize an alias in .ssh/config.

    juicefs format \
    --storage=sftp \
    --bucket=somealias:/mnt/storage/ \
    redis://localhost:6379/1 myjfs

    I've got no idea how JuiceFS works, that was another poster.

    @dzungbb said:

    @zejjnt said:
    At this point I'm afraid Labze dozed off in a rack, haven't seen him in 36 hours.
    I mean, I didn't look, but still.

    Yeah. Just wait and see

    I can't wait harder than I am already waiting, I promise :(

  • x1archx1arch Member
    edited November 2025

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Are you using SSHFS to provide an SFTP connection with an SSH key, or just the default access key and secret key? This wouldn’t be secure, right? Because it uses SSH with a password.

    You can add keys just like with any other machine :)

    I'm not seeing any mention of how to use ssh-key in these docs, though.
    https://juicefs.com/docs/community/reference/how_to_set_up_object_storage#sftp


    Ie. standard Linux procedure :)

    Mind sharing how to set it up? I use this command; it seems JuiceFS does not recognize an alias in .ssh/config.

    juicefs format \
    --storage=sftp \
    --bucket=somealias:/mnt/storage/ \
    redis://localhost:6379/1 myjfs

    I've got no idea how JuiceFS works, that was another poster.

    JuiceFS keep your metadata locally, that's why you get impressive speed for lots of smal operations unlike of rclone which request meta everytime from the server, juice takes it from local redis/sqlite/etc. i don't know what happens if you will use your storage in two places, probably, juce will go to storage if didn't get meta locally and performance will the same as for rclone.

  • @x1arch said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Are you using SSHFS to provide an SFTP connection with an SSH key, or just the default access key and secret key? This wouldn’t be secure, right? Because it uses SSH with a password.

    You can add keys just like with any other machine :)

    I'm not seeing any mention of how to use ssh-key in these docs, though.
    https://juicefs.com/docs/community/reference/how_to_set_up_object_storage#sftp


    Ie. standard Linux procedure :)

    Mind sharing how to set it up? I use this command; it seems JuiceFS does not recognize an alias in .ssh/config.

    juicefs format \
    --storage=sftp \
    --bucket=somealias:/mnt/storage/ \
    redis://localhost:6379/1 myjfs

    I've got no idea how JuiceFS works, that was another poster.

    JuiceFS keep your metedata locally, that's why you get impressive speed for lots of smal operations unlike of rclone which request meta everytime from the server, juice takes it from local redis/sqlite/etc. i don't know what happens if you will use your storage in two places, probably, juce will go to storage if didn't get meta locally and performance will the same as for rclone.

    It wasn't a question from me, it was from the other guy hahaha :D Love this quoting system

  • @zejjnt said:

    @x1arch said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @zejjnt said:

    @Motion3549 said:

    @philwatcher said:
    Review of the DA Storagebox package: it's great! I got one last year. The old hardware performed good enough. A few weeks labze migrated to new hardware, and it runs amazing! Small enough writes perform fast due to the NVMe/SSD caching, so incremental backups are very fast. Reads used to be limited to 40MB/s, which was acceptable for backgroudn tasks or with a cache. I have never run into any limitations on the new HW.

    I use it (among other things) to store my 350GB Immich photo gallery data on it. I have a 50GB NVMe cache in front, and it performs smooth. If you want faster write speeds, then AWS, Azure and friends will happily offer you better performance, but not for that price.

    If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox as a cloud drive, here's my setup: I use JuiceFS over SFTP and the JuiceFS-builtin caching and encryption. I mount the JuiceFS FUSE filesystem on a powerful VPS with less storage and use most of its SSD for the cache. When I do backups, I just mount the same JuiceFS filesystem on my homelab server and copy to local drive.

    Before JuiceFS, I used rclone to mount the Storagebox over SFTP, but rclone does not support filesystem statistice (e.g. how much of the FS is used) and file metadata has to be read over SFTP as well, so incremental backups over many small files were slow. Then I changed back to JuiceFS, it runs at a tad more overhead but has much faster metadata query.

    By the way, using the Storagebox as a rclone backend over SFTP is great as well - I just copied my rclone config to all my servers and have all my data available.

    Are you using SSHFS to provide an SFTP connection with an SSH key, or just the default access key and secret key? This wouldn’t be secure, right? Because it uses SSH with a password.

    You can add keys just like with any other machine :)

    I'm not seeing any mention of how to use ssh-key in these docs, though.
    https://juicefs.com/docs/community/reference/how_to_set_up_object_storage#sftp


    Ie. standard Linux procedure :)

    Mind sharing how to set it up? I use this command; it seems JuiceFS does not recognize an alias in .ssh/config.

    juicefs format \
    --storage=sftp \
    --bucket=somealias:/mnt/storage/ \
    redis://localhost:6379/1 myjfs

    I've got no idea how JuiceFS works, that was another poster.

    JuiceFS keep your metedata locally, that's why you get impressive speed for lots of smal operations unlike of rclone which request meta everytime from the server, juice takes it from local redis/sqlite/etc. i don't know what happens if you will use your storage in two places, probably, juce will go to storage if didn't get meta locally and performance will the same as for rclone.

    It wasn't a question from me, it was from the other guy hahaha :D Love this quoting system

    If he was in thread, he will get a notification. Don't worry.

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  • @philwatcher said: If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox

    does it comes with jetbacup?

  • @JasonM said:

    @philwatcher said: If anyone else wants to use the DA storagebox

    does it comes with jetbacup?

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  • The deal I wanted the most is no longer available.

  • @schenleyssy2 said:
    The deal I wanted the most is no longer available.

    Which one?

  • Is JuiceFS faster than rclone mount ftp? As I am getting almost the desired results with it.

  • @rohitsingh1333 said:
    Is JuiceFS faster than rclone mount ftp? As I am getting almost the desired results with it.

    What are you using rclone mount ftp for?

  • @zejjnt said:
    At this point I'm afraid Labze dozed off in a rack, haven't seen him in 36 hours.
    I mean, I didn't look, but still.

    Heard he died

  • @johndeo983 said:

    @zejjnt said:
    At this point I'm afraid Labze dozed off in a rack, haven't seen him in 36 hours.
    I mean, I didn't look, but still.

    Heard he died

    Happens to the best of us after 2+ allnighters

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  • edited November 2025

    @network said:

    @rohitsingh1333 said:
    Is JuiceFS faster than rclone mount ftp? As I am getting almost the desired results with it.

    What are you using rclone mount ftp for?

    Testing for immich, I know it's not secure, but perf is great!

  • @rohitsingh1333 said:

    @network said:

    @rohitsingh1333 said:
    Is JuiceFS faster than rclone mount ftp? As I am getting almost the desired results with it.

    What are you using rclone mount ftp for?

    Testing for immich, I know it's not secure, but perf is great!

    Try rclone encryption wraper, that's will be secure.

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  • @x1arch said:

    @rohitsingh1333 said:

    @network said:

    @rohitsingh1333 said:
    Is JuiceFS faster than rclone mount ftp? As I am getting almost the desired results with it.

    What are you using rclone mount ftp for?

    Testing for immich, I know it's not secure, but perf is great!

    Try rclone encryption wraper, that's will be secure.

    Yes, this. My transfer speeds above were for rclone with crypt over sftp. All my data stored on Hostbrr is fully encrypted. Note that it does leak some details, like the size and approx path length since each file is mapped 1:1 from source to target.

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  • @network said:

    @x1arch said:

    @rohitsingh1333 said:

    @network said:

    @rohitsingh1333 said:
    Is JuiceFS faster than rclone mount ftp? As I am getting almost the desired results with it.

    What are you using rclone mount ftp for?

    Testing for immich, I know it's not secure, but perf is great!

    Try rclone encryption wraper, that's will be secure.

    Yes, this. My transfer speeds above were for rclone with crypt over sftp. All my data stored on Hostbrr is fully encrypted. Note that it does leak some details, like the size and approx path length since each file is mapped 1:1 from source to target.

    Turn on encryption for dir names

  • @x1arch said:

    @network said:

    @x1arch said:

    @rohitsingh1333 said:

    @network said:

    @rohitsingh1333 said:
    Is JuiceFS faster than rclone mount ftp? As I am getting almost the desired results with it.

    What are you using rclone mount ftp for?

    Testing for immich, I know it's not secure, but perf is great!

    Try rclone encryption wraper, that's will be secure.

    Yes, this. My transfer speeds above were for rclone with crypt over sftp. All my data stored on Hostbrr is fully encrypted. Note that it does leak some details, like the size and approx path length since each file is mapped 1:1 from source to target.

    Turn on encryption for dir names

    Yes, but the approx length of the path and size of each file is still exposed.

  • I think you might be looking at the wrong solution if your data is so sensitive that you're afraid of even showing the approximate amount of characters in the file names, yet go for the cheapest service possible.

    Just sayin.

  • Howdy yall! I did some extensive testing on JuiceFS vs rclone some time ago. The TLDR is the difference is negligible, I think any performance differences between them may arise if you get into multi-gigabit network speeds. The performance of the Storagebox is so far below the limits of either rclone mount or JuiceFS that I saw no difference. The most important difference in performance is the size of your cache, which needs to be enabled for rclone manually (i.e. through command line switches).

    I think the main difference between rclone mount sftp and JuiceFS over sftp is that juicefs chunks all files at IIRC 64MB. So if you open a huge multi-GB file, rclone will (I think) download the entire file into the cache, whereas JuiceFS will only fetch the chinks that you are interested in. Also, I think JuiceFS has a bit more aggressive readahead. The downside of JuiceFS is that without the metadata DB your data is worthless, whereas rclone just stores your files as is and is as such a bit more resilient (or synergizes more with other programs accessing the data)

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