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Why haven’t VPS storage sizes increased much?
jackdoggett
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CPU and ram have generally gotten a lot better over the few years for VPS, but storage is usually almost always pretty low despite SSDs and hard drives getting a lot bigger.
Why are VPS not increasing storage size that much? My guess is over provisioning of RAM and CPU on hypervisor nodes. When storage gets over provisioned through lazy allocation, if the storage ever gets full the entire hypervisor will grind to a halt, but over provisioning RAM and CPU will usually only cause VPS to slow down.
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Something I thinking which the answer was some provider selling desktop chip which some lack of storage slot on their motherboard.
If you find some provider selling old e5 / any server chip you would get 1.5-2x storage than that.
Perhaps prevent any condition when other consumer was getting poor I/O performance its also make you VPS slow down even I/O timeout which consider as slow down too, and hassle work cause ticket so ratio need to be consider "fair" to the point less hassle to provider handle.
I am not provider, its just my opinion.
Probably just because it's double the cost for the hardware and most people who need more storage just pay for more.
SSD seem to be getting more generous. There are less offers with something like 5GB and more offers in high double digits for a basic plan. What's more frustrating is that on storage nodes you still regularly see the ancient disks in 2-4 TB while there are affordable drives with 16 or 20TB and those could be useful to have even in older system for someone who needs more space.
We are about to roll out high storage intel gold w/ NVME:
https://oplink.net/vps/#INTEL-XEON-GOLD-HIGH-STORAGE-VPS
Should be live next week
Most likely because the people who need it are willing to pay extra for it. I would assume most people don't need it and it's why.
Besides storage-oriented VPSs, there seems to be almost no market presure for increased storage (i.e. customers compare RAM/vCPU/Network before storage).
Also I think most LET providers use servers with Xeon/EPYC and 512-1024 GB RAM. If you use a node with 1 TB RAM, it's pretty hard to offer more than 30-40 GB of SSD NVME storage for 1 GB of RAM.
i.e. for 40 GB SSD NVME / 1 GB RAM => 40 TB of storage with raid 10 would be 80 TB...that's a lot already.
Hi,
the storage is actually the most expensive resource compared to others.
And the prices of storage is actually stable. Actually actually its rising if ever.
Thanks to AI / Bigdata / What ever there is a high demand for HDD's. I have red that the vendors have currently 1 year delivery time for bulk orders.
If this is true it means that if you want to buy now disks from western digital or seagate, you will have to wait 1 year for them to arrive with you.... guess what this is doing with market pricings...
Asking the search engine gave this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/internal-hard-drive/
We are in a situation where the double size of the drive means double price, while you can not rely on availability of drives for a specific pricing X.
So this increase of disk capacity in the offers of the providers that you ask for, wont easily happen without an increase of pricing.
Has your diks size increased after adulthood?
Moores law doesn't apply to diks and disks
Ram over provisioning is also a bad idea. I would never do it at least on my products. But I actually think because there is no market for it? Most of my business clients run tiny disks on their VM's and store everything on block storage. Therefor no real need for large storage VM's. In addition dedicated servers became dirt cheap.
People usually use their machine's for hosting websites, so a lot of storage is not required, maybe that's why
RAM rarely breaks while HDDs and SSDs need to be regularly replaced
can confirm. i prefer very minimal SSD/NVMe boot-disk storage and then attachable volumes, especially if you can purchase/adjust per GB. ideally it would be cool if provider had storage tiers like SSD/NVMe/HDD for use-case.
When I see that any promotion is published, they only comment 7$year, it's like the TikTokers who publish videos Come on my people, click on the screen please!!!
This reminds me of how the world is suffering with inflation and then there's like weed in the UK that's been the same price since 2000
I guess that at least one major factor is (a) good and large SSDs aren't that cheap, and (b) there's only so many slots in blades and 1HU servers. Plus, to not be laughed out of the room a provider must use RAID. All that often means that [not enough total space] divided by number of VPS on a box just doesn't allow for large VM disks.
Plus, as others already mentioned: 25 to 40 GB is good enough for most (cheap-ish) VPS and customers who want/need more disk space usually are willing to pay more anyway.
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SSDs are still just expensive. We recently started being more generous with SSD in our newer lineups, but the cost of disks is quite high!
I would say that a lot of customers would favor more RAM or more cores over more SSD, so hosting providers cheap out on storage and use that toward more dense hardware.
The actual $/TB of SSD hasn't really actually changed much since 2021. The only difference is that they achieve higher speeds now. It has gone down, but not to a significant enough extent to match the increases in density that we're seeing with new processors.
In the real world, you should understand that backing up large disks becomes a big problem. Incremental backups can save resources for creating backups, but not for restoring full data. Restoring data from a large VPS takes a lot of time. Who would wait a day or even a week for data recovery? No one. The speed of disks has increased many times, but it is still not enough for quick restoration in case the data on the production server is somehow lost.
The above problem is only one of other problems with large-sized VPS disks.
I would say due to technology changes and people wanting speed.
Went from HDD -> SSD -> NVMe
and the SSD -> NVMe was a quick jump.
Pricing for large NVMe is still $$$ but getting better.
Gonna just go with cost, but obviously other factors.
I can't think of the last time that I wanted more storage other than when explicitly looking for backup sites.
Not sure that adding disk space would be justifiable for most VPS buyers. They'd probably prefer the cheaper options with less disk space. Personally I'd pick the servers from providers with less disk space and lower budget.
EDIT: block-storage solves most of this too as an addon service, without upping the disk capacity of the nodes.
I can think of a way to increase that dik size
This seems like a situation for @Rubben
I agree. Team effort.
fuck it who is a good boy react it
Not OK at all
Samsung 9100 PRO HeatSink 4TB PCI Express 5.0 x4 M.2 2280 500euro
Shit is expensive
I recently reordered big HDDs from ServerPartDeals. I was surprised that prices are higher than 2 years ago. My 2023 drives were about $9.43/TB. 2025 drives cost me about $12/TB.
if you have big monies to buy smasung 9100 pro then do me a solid and buy me one as well