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Introducing ServerVerify: built with the LowEndTalk community in mind

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  • Well, you're 2/2 my man. Definitely on brand with previous rollouts:

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/177703/psa-provider-tag-fee-implementation/

    Thanked by 2beanman109 mandala
  • vailiernitsvailiernits Member
    edited September 2025

    That website is a joke.

    While we are on a topic of fake reviews, I encourage people to look at comment section on LEB

    For example here https://lowendbox.com/blog/perfect-quality-hosting-offers-service-from-moldova-to-hong-kong-1gb-for-12eur-year/#comments

    Spammed with obviously fake reviews, that Biloh entertains and even replies to.
    PQ is not the only provider with such blatant fake reviews, LEB staff had to specifically disable comments filtering for providers that most certainly paid them for it.

    Edit: some more
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/cheap-dedi-deal-in-france-128gb-ram-e5-for-only-69-month/#comments
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/review-of-gthost-servers-15-minute-setup-at-17-locations/#comments
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/kvm-and-openvz-7-yearly-vps-offers-in-usa-france-and-canada-hostnamaste-2/#comments

    Judging by how similar the pattern is, with several providers, I personally think LEB staff is responsible for these fake comments, and paid for by scummy providers.

    Thanked by 2tentor mandala
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @vailiernits said:
    That website is a joke.

    While we are on a topic of fake reviews, I encourage people to look at comment section on LEB

    For example here https://lowendbox.com/blog/perfect-quality-hosting-offers-service-from-moldova-to-hong-kong-1gb-for-12eur-year/#comments

    Spammed with obviously fake reviews, that Biloh entertains and even replies to.
    PQ is not the only provider with such blatant fake reviews, LEB staff had to specifically disable comments filtering for providers that most certainly paid them for it.

    Edit: some more
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/cheap-dedi-deal-in-france-128gb-ram-e5-for-only-69-month/#comments
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/review-of-gthost-servers-15-minute-setup-at-17-locations/#comments
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/kvm-and-openvz-7-yearly-vps-offers-in-usa-france-and-canada-hostnamaste-2/#comments

    Judging by how similar the pattern is, with several providers, I personally think LEB staff is responsible for these fake comments, and paid for by scummy providers.

    Thanks for pointing these out, we will take a look. Seems like some low quality comments are getting past LowEndBox's Akismet Anti-spam plugin.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @jbiloh said:

    @vailiernits said:
    That website is a joke.

    While we are on a topic of fake reviews, I encourage people to look at comment section on LEB

    For example here https://lowendbox.com/blog/perfect-quality-hosting-offers-service-from-moldova-to-hong-kong-1gb-for-12eur-year/#comments

    Spammed with obviously fake reviews, that Biloh entertains and even replies to.
    PQ is not the only provider with such blatant fake reviews, LEB staff had to specifically disable comments filtering for providers that most certainly paid them for it.

    Edit: some more
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/cheap-dedi-deal-in-france-128gb-ram-e5-for-only-69-month/#comments
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/review-of-gthost-servers-15-minute-setup-at-17-locations/#comments
    https://lowendbox.com/blog/kvm-and-openvz-7-yearly-vps-offers-in-usa-france-and-canada-hostnamaste-2/#comments

    Judging by how similar the pattern is, with several providers, I personally think LEB staff is responsible for these fake comments, and paid for by scummy providers.

    Thanks for pointing these out, we will take a look. Seems like some low quality comments are getting past LowEndBox's Akismet Anti-spam plugin.

    These things are cleaned up. Looks like a combination of:

    1. Likely provider planted machine-comments over many years (Perfect Quality Hosting)
    2. Provider requested comments from some apparently legitimate users/unique users (some low quality, removed)
    3. Some natural comments (remain)
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @jbiloh said:

    @Fubukibox said:
    Can it be an option to change it to "Yearly Service Cost" since some people have $7/yr vps and i can't run a benchmark using 0.58 cents when starting to do a benchmark test?

    Great suggestion. We will fix this.

    This has been implemented on the dev site and will be in production today. Thanks for the great suggestion!

  • ascicodeascicode Member
    edited September 2025

    The bigest question. Does serververify stays free or do you implement a payment option in the future?

  • mandalamandala Member, Megathread Squad

    @jbiloh said:

    @jbiloh said:

    Fubukibox said:
    Can it be an option to change it to "Yearly Service Cost" since some people have $7/yr vps and i can't run a benchmark using 0.58 cents when starting to do a benchmark test?

    Great suggestion. We will fix this.

    This has been implemented on the dev site and will be in production today. Thanks for the great suggestion!

    Will "lifetime"/one-time purchase services have their own category?


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  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @mandala said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @jbiloh said:

    Fubukibox said:
    Can it be an option to change it to "Yearly Service Cost" since some people have $7/yr vps and i can't run a benchmark using 0.58 cents when starting to do a benchmark test?

    Great suggestion. We will fix this.

    This has been implemented on the dev site and will be in production today. Thanks for the great suggestion!

    Will "lifetime"/one-time purchase services have their own category?


    image

    LOL a fair question around here.

  • edited September 2025

    @jbiloh said:

    @barbarza said:
    Please allow registration / login with Google

    (or even LET credentials - not sure if the forum software has an api or if databases would need to be synced)

    It is already synced to lowendtalk.

    How so? A user with my LET username seems to exist, that has a link to my LET profile... and a YABS benchmark that's confusingly mislabeled and seems to have been scraped from a LET comment. My email doesn't exist in the system... so... what gives?

  • Any way to introduce filters ? Let's presume I wanna see who has the highest score on 4GB RAM and 2 vCPU or something like that ... that's be awesome

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @AlteredParadox said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @barbarza said:
    Please allow registration / login with Google

    (or even LET credentials - not sure if the forum software has an api or if databases would need to be synced)

    It is already synced to lowendtalk.

    How so? A user with my LET username seems to exist, that has a link to my LET profile... and a YABS benchmark that's confusingly mislabeled and seems to have been scraped from a LET comment. My email doesn't exist in the system... so... what gives?

    I'll PM you.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @kode9 said:
    Any way to introduce filters ? Let's presume I wanna see who has the highest score on 4GB RAM and 2 vCPU or something like that ... that's be awesome

    This is a great idea. What are the filters you would like to see?

  • @jbiloh said:

    @kode9 said:
    Any way to introduce filters ? Let's presume I wanna see who has the highest score on 4GB RAM and 2 vCPU or something like that ... that's be awesome

    This is a great idea. What are the filters you would like to see?

    Well don't wanna be an asshole and ask for everything but ... Yeah. Everything.

    Literally right now I'm looking for 4vCPU with 8 gigs or RAM on roughly 100 gb NVME.

    Would be nice to have "how many vCPU" / "how much RAM" / "type of storage" / etc .. stuff like that. And then sort that stuff out on what provider has the highest score. Or th lowest and so on ...

    So basically would be nice to have filters for the 'hardware components' of a VM/VDS/DS ... if I can call it like that.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @kode9 said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @kode9 said:
    Any way to introduce filters ? Let's presume I wanna see who has the highest score on 4GB RAM and 2 vCPU or something like that ... that's be awesome

    This is a great idea. What are the filters you would like to see?

    Well don't wanna be an asshole and ask for everything but ... Yeah. Everything.

    Literally right now I'm looking for 4vCPU with 8 gigs or RAM on roughly 100 gb NVME.

    Would be nice to have "how many vCPU" / "how much RAM" / "type of storage" / etc .. stuff like that. And then sort that stuff out on what provider has the highest score. Or th lowest and so on ...

    So basically would be nice to have filters for the 'hardware components' of a VM/VDS/DS ... if I can call it like that.

    Makes sense. We will work on this.

    Thanked by 1kode9
  • I like the design of the Website 🙂

    Thanked by 1kode9
  • I have a question:
    How can you prove where does the result really come from?

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Fengfeng said:
    I have a question:
    How can you prove where does the result really come from?

    They have confirmed multiple times
    Its via AI

    What proof is needed?

    Thanked by 4oloke Marx barbarza tux
  • ozontiozonti Member, Patron Provider
    edited September 2025

    I wonder if the users who help grow this project will receive some kind of reward or just a thank you? Are they finalizing a 2025 project with reviews from 2021-2022-2023 using inaccurate data from forums like LET/LOWENDBOX?

  • @Advin said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @Advin said: Quite a few benchmarks are mislabeled as being from 1GServers, Scaleblade, or MassiveGRID instead of Advin Servers. How did it even come to this conclusion?

    It's simple really, @jbiloh bought the $30 Claude plan and banged this out in a month in between the rate limits and the 72,000 auto generated AI reviews 'anonymized' reviews before the subscription expired.

    :D

    Anyways, I threw in one of our idling servers for fun:

    https://serververify.com/benchmarks/dd55001c-56d8-4204-a15e-c567209123f2

    Awesome!!

    I tried to benchmark a few VPS and the weighting seems weird. The more expensive servers / high end servers or virtual machines sure get better scores, but I'm not sure they are necessarily a better value.

    Some of the benchmarks I submitted were also deleted rather than approved.

    The VPS for KhanWebHost in Texas are displaying as being located in Pakistan.

    I need to delete a few myself. Some of the VPS plans had 1GB of memory and 1GB of swap yet the GB6 test failed.

    I won't be posting any more benchmarks. I'll post them in the thread for the deal or the dedicated thread.

  • @usr123 said:
    I won't be posting any more benchmarks.

    Sad truth this is. Benchmarks are turning against the very low-end oversold offers.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @usr123 said:

    @Advin said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @Advin said: Quite a few benchmarks are mislabeled as being from 1GServers, Scaleblade, or MassiveGRID instead of Advin Servers. How did it even come to this conclusion?

    It's simple really, @jbiloh bought the $30 Claude plan and banged this out in a month in between the rate limits and the 72,000 auto generated AI reviews 'anonymized' reviews before the subscription expired.

    :D

    Anyways, I threw in one of our idling servers for fun:

    https://serververify.com/benchmarks/dd55001c-56d8-4204-a15e-c567209123f2

    Awesome!!

    I tried to benchmark a few VPS and the weighting seems weird. The more expensive servers / high end servers or virtual machines sure get better scores, but I'm not sure they are necessarily a better value.

    Some of the benchmarks I submitted were also deleted rather than approved.

    The VPS for KhanWebHost in Texas are displaying as being located in Pakistan.

    I need to delete a few myself. Some of the VPS plans had 1GB of memory and 1GB of swap yet the GB6 test failed.

    I won't be posting any more benchmarks. I'll post them in the thread for the deal or the dedicated thread.

    If your GeekBench test filed that could be why the benchmark wasn't published.

    Thanks for the feedback. We are working hard to make things better.

  • @jbiloh said:

    @usr123 said:

    @Advin said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @Advin said: Quite a few benchmarks are mislabeled as being from 1GServers, Scaleblade, or MassiveGRID instead of Advin Servers. How did it even come to this conclusion?

    It's simple really, @jbiloh bought the $30 Claude plan and banged this out in a month in between the rate limits and the 72,000 auto generated AI reviews 'anonymized' reviews before the subscription expired.

    :D

    Anyways, I threw in one of our idling servers for fun:

    https://serververify.com/benchmarks/dd55001c-56d8-4204-a15e-c567209123f2

    Awesome!!

    I tried to benchmark a few VPS and the weighting seems weird. The more expensive servers / high end servers or virtual machines sure get better scores, but I'm not sure they are necessarily a better value.

    Some of the benchmarks I submitted were also deleted rather than approved.

    The VPS for KhanWebHost in Texas are displaying as being located in Pakistan.

    I need to delete a few myself. Some of the VPS plans had 1GB of memory and 1GB of swap yet the GB6 test failed.

    I won't be posting any more benchmarks. I'll post them in the thread for the deal or the dedicated thread.

    If your GeekBench test filed that could be why the benchmark wasn't published.

    Thanks for the feedback. We are working hard to make things better.

    No, some succeeded and they were deleted and others failed and they were published.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    One suggestion for network testing. I don't know the exact method of graduation, but I suspect that it is based on a grade based on either 1 Gbit or 10 Gbit. If you see a speed of less than 1 or 10Gbit on the port, then the real network speed will marked as F. However, this is not the correct graduation, because many ports are set to lower values (for example, 100Mbit - 500Mbits), and even if the test result is within plan limits, the results are shown as an F.

  • sh97sh97 Member, Host Rep

    @rustelekom said:
    One suggestion for network testing. I don't know the exact method of graduation, but I suspect that it is based on a grade based on either 1 Gbit or 10 Gbit. If you see a speed of less than 1 or 10Gbit on the port, then the real network speed will marked as F. However, this is not the correct graduation, because many ports are set to lower values (for example, 100Mbit - 500Mbits), and even if the test result is within plan limits, the results are shown as an F.

    Adding to this, many people like myself skip iperf and use nws, in case iperf is not found, the score is very affected - shows F for network and top 100% which doesn't make sense.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    I am actually skeptical of all ratings, because synthetic tests in most cases don't show anything useful. But if people used ratings based on reality, it would be better.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited September 2025

    @beanman109 said:
    I thought it was a bit funny racknerd was the "highest rated" provider but I guess that makes sense when you're just shamelessly copy pasting the same review and changing the name ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Aren't you a bit harsh there? After all, annamae92 wrote that DigitalOcean was "quite slow", while tito49 wrote that they were "notably sluggish", and block_marisa called them "noticeably slow". And also their reports about their favoured provider differs drastically; e.g. one said the performance was "superior" while another called it "significantly better".

    That clearly shows that anonymized reviewer 1, anonymized reviewer 2, and anonymized reviewer 3 are totally, completely different NPCs and that the anonymizer used tried hard to find (or create) different reviews.

    But what can you do when a certain provider and its diverse shopfronts just are consistently supreme? In such a case one can't but modestly laud oneself.
    Or maybe the reviewers confused DigitalOcean and MassiveGrid? Stranger things have been seen on that site ...

    Certainty of my take: 87% or 24%, depending on which anonymizer is active.


    I had a few direct conversations with @jbiloh and got the impression that he actually is a decent and likeable person. Some experiences though made me doubt that and that new site, the obvious use of AI, and the lying about it feel like nails in the coffin.
    I'd very much like to find back to my original impression, but some help would be nice. Sometimes I wonder who really is behind some of his actions or whether he really is so hardcore profit driven.

    Well, whatever, I'm just a single LET user, but one that accepts the "man vs. AI" (reviews) challenge. And my advice re. the new "Massive(Pseudo)Reviews" site is to simply ignore it. I'm quite confident that in the long run it'll be a success - in terms of visits and clicks - thanks to clueless victims - and AI scrapers! Isn't that funny? - but we LET users shouldn't dignify that site by visiting, or even just talking about it.

  • Fake reviews not fixed? No worry.
    "soft-launch" part 3 - emails went to LEB/LET users.

    Thanked by 1Marx
  • onidelonidel Member, Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @jbiloh Not sure if this has been raised before, but it looks like CPU scores are being ranked without considering the number of cores.
    for example, this VPS has 1 vCPU and 1449 single core score (and 1451 multi core), yet it's ranked D (Top 59.5%).
    Meanwhile, this VPS, has similar single core score (1393) but, because it has more cores, it's ranked A (Top 9.17%).

    is this fair? should CPU rankings be grouped by the number of vCPUs?

    we also have a few reviews on Trustpilot, how can we upload those to the platform?

  • Nice site to use. Good information to have available.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @sh97 said:

    @rustelekom said:
    One suggestion for network testing. I don't know the exact method of graduation, but I suspect that it is based on a grade based on either 1 Gbit or 10 Gbit. If you see a speed of less than 1 or 10Gbit on the port, then the real network speed will marked as F. However, this is not the correct graduation, because many ports are set to lower values (for example, 100Mbit - 500Mbits), and even if the test result is within plan limits, the results are shown as an F.

    Adding to this, many people like myself skip iperf and use nws, in case iperf is not found, the score is very affected - shows F for network and top 100% which doesn't make sense.

    I am looking at this now.

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