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Introducing ServerVerify: built with the LowEndTalk community in mind

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  • stable_geniusstable_genius Member
    edited September 2025

    I just checked it and as soon as that site started to load the foul stench of AI invaded the room, I guess some would call it a "vibe coded" website but I don't see it that way, I can only see ai slop contrived to freeload on the hard work of a few generous LET contributors.

    Did we need it?

    Thanked by 3tentor mandala forest
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran
    edited September 2025

    Any review or commentary that exists on LowEndBox (comments, post, cross link, hyperlink, reference), and the same for LowEndTalk is what compromises the reviews. Theyvwere then anonymized in some cases.

    This has produced results less than we were hoping for so we are addressing that now prior to mass public release :).

    The library of hosting providers was pulled from all sources in the databases, including comments on LowEndBox, email addresses, hyperlinks, text references, etc, and the same from LowEndTalk. We then used GPT to generate or regenerate descriptions. Lots of descriptions were manually written and logos manually assigned or created from provider websites.

    ServerVerify has been in development for a over a year - it's definitely not "vibe coded." it's not perfect yet but I'm going to keep improving it until we get it really right.

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @jbiloh said:
    Any review or commentary that exists on LowEndBox (comments, post, cross link, hyperlink, reference), and the same for LowEndTalk is what compromises the reviews. Theyvwere then anonymized in some cases.

    Why Skhron has no reviews at ServerVerify then?

    Thanked by 2oloke 384_cz
  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited September 2025

    Guys, stop complaining about AI on ServerVerify. Our supreme leader has made it perfectly clear that he is against AI generated content, wanting "humans only".

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran
    edited September 2025

    @tentor said:

    @jbiloh said:
    Any review or commentary that exists on LowEndBox (comments, post, cross link, hyperlink, reference), and the same for LowEndTalk is what compromises the reviews. Theyvwere then anonymized in some cases.

    Why Skhron has no reviews at ServerVerify then?

    We are still working through improvements to the system and manually assigning reviews like we had to do with yabs. The initial hope that we could have everything assigned by Ai failed because the accuracy level was very low just like with yabs. This is why the benchmark and review counts are going up and down daily as assignments get tweaked. As of today benchmarks are pretty good. There's still a huge back log of unprocessed reviews.

  • xvpsxvps Member
    edited September 2025

    @jbiloh said:
    Any review or commentary that exists on LowEndBox (comments, post, cross link, hyperlink, reference), and the same for LowEndTalk is what compromises the reviews. Theyvwere then anonymized in some cases.

    This has produced results less than we were hoping for so we are addressing that now prior to mass public release :).

    The library of hosting providers was pulled from all sources in the databases, including comments on LowEndBox, email addresses, hyperlinks, text references, etc, and the same from LowEndTalk. We then used GPT to generate or regenerate descriptions. Lots of descriptions were manually written and logos manually assigned or created from provider websites.

    ServerVerify has been in development for a over a year - it's definitely not "vibe coded." it's not perfect yet but I'm going to keep improving it until we get it really right.

    Google: No results found for site:lowendtalk.com "Last Update | May 2022".
    Google: No results found for site:lowendbox.com "Last Update | May 2022".


    I don’t get it.

    You could create a ‘write a review with YABS and share it on social media’ contest on LET (à la PurpleDaddy contests), where users could win a custom tag of their choice by writing reviews of their providers. Half the megathread squad and hang-arounds would quit their day jobs to write reviews of their idlers.

    And are there any providers that wouldn’t donate a one year free VPS to the contest?

    @Raindog404 could use his free Udemy-course skills to write an Laravel AI function that evaluates the quality of the reviews.

    Then you’d have real reviews, real traffic for serververify.com, a happy FAT32 gang, and Google would send you love letters.

    Instead you create a website full of fake shit and zero trust.

    Thanked by 2mandala forest
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @default said:
    Guys, stop complaining about AI on ServerVerify. Our supreme leader has made it perfectly clear that he is against AI generated content, wanting "humans only".

    @jbiloh said:
    We then used GPT to generate or regenerate descriptions.

    ServerVerify has been in development for a over a year - it's definitely not "vibe coded." it's not perfect yet but I'm going to keep improving it until we get it really right.

    No, you're wrong @default
    Things have changed
    AI ddr is ignor is clearly allow permanente

    Long live bots and ai

  • nohavpsnohavps Member, Host Rep

    In the footer header, full CC is the same in lowendtalk

    Captura-de-pantalla-2025-09-16-a-la-s-7-26-27-a-m

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  • @nohavps said:
    In the footer header, full CC is the same in lowendtalk

    Captura-de-pantalla-2025-09-16-a-la-s-7-26-27-a-m

    1

    Thanked by 1mandala
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @nohavps said:
    In the footer header, full CC is the same in lowendtalk

    Captura-de-pantalla-2025-09-16-a-la-s-7-26-27-a-m

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    Free market for all: https://lowendbox.com/advertise

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @xvps said: You could create a ‘write a review with YABS and share it on social media’ contest on LET (à la PurpleDaddy contests), where users could win a custom tag of their choice by writing reviews of their providers. Half the megathread squad and hang-arounds would quit their day jobs to write reviews of their idlers.

    And are there any providers that wouldn’t donate a one year free VPS to the contest?

    @Raindog404 could use his free Udemy-course skills to write an Laravel AI function that evaluates the quality of the reviews.

    Great idea, will build this into the plan. :)

  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep

    So I understand it right, you have no intention to delete the AI generated fake reviews?

    Thanked by 3oloke mandala forest
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Alyx said:
    So I understand it right, you have no intention to delete the AI generated fake reviews?

    What? AI generates fake reviews?

    No way.

    Its anonymized. Thats all

  • @Alyx said:
    So I understand it right, you have no intention to delete the AI generated fake reviews?

    AI is the future. Companies want to invest more and more in AI. Nowadays one could could conclude it's a race for developing AI faster and better.

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @Alyx said: So I understand it right, you have no intention to delete the AI generated fake reviews?

    We are cleaning things up and making improvements to aggregated reviews right now. This includes removing some.

    By the way I noticed you haven't claimed your provider profile -> https://serververify.com/hosting-providers/calibour

    You've already got a review and 3 benchmarks (that look like you submitted them). How was the process of doing so in your experience?

  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    @jbiloh said:

    @nohavps said:
    In the footer header, full CC is the same in lowendtalk

    Captura-de-pantalla-2025-09-16-a-la-s-7-26-27-a-m

    1

    Free market for all: https://lowendbox.com/advertise

    is the "Similar Hosts" part also an advertisement? If so it should clearly be marketed as a "sponsored" segment. It just recommends ColoCrossing companies for literally every host I checked.

    3 random hosts' similar recommendations:

    This is OVH's similar recommendations, How's RackNerd/Dedirock similar to OVH?

  • @jbiloh said:

    @Alyx said: So I understand it right, you have no intention to delete the AI generated fake reviews?

    We are cleaning things up and making improvements to aggregated reviews right now. This includes removing some.

    By the way I noticed you haven't claimed your provider profile -> https://serververify.com/hosting-providers/calibour

    You've already got a review and 3 benchmarks (that look like you submitted them). How was the process of doing so in your experience?

    Is it allowed for the provider to reply you using AI text?

    Thanked by 1mandala
  • @default said:

    @jbiloh said:

    @Alyx said: So I understand it right, you have no intention to delete the AI generated fake reviews?

    We are cleaning things up and making improvements to aggregated reviews right now. This includes removing some.

    By the way I noticed you haven't claimed your provider profile -> https://serververify.com/hosting-providers/calibour

    You've already got a review and 3 benchmarks (that look like you submitted them). How was the process of doing so in your experience?

    Is it allowed for the provider to reply you using AI text?

    Why not? You can ask question with AI and you can receive answer from AI. That way you and provider will watch how your AIs chat with each other. Don't know who receives money in this case...

    Thanked by 2default mandala
  • ascicodeascicode Member
    edited September 2025

    What about benchmarks from banned hosters, will they be added or not?
    2nd: What about a voting with hot or cold?

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @ascicode said:
    What about benchmarks from banned hosters, will they be added or not?
    2nd: What about a voting with hot or cold?

    Right now benchmarks from banned hosts remain in the ServerVerify system though we have a feature in our dev tracker on how to deal with plus banned users. We haven't decided a path forward yet.

    Currently we collect "Would you recommend this service" to users when they submit benchmarks. We will do something with that data soon on the provider profile like:

    "56% of users who submit benchmarks for this provider recommend their service" or something similar.

  • @dosai said:
    Does it come with deadpool tracker?

    good question Sir !!!!

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @cold said:

    @dosai said:
    Does it come with deadpool tracker?

    good question Sir !!!!

    That's a fun idea and something I've wanted to add to LowEndBox.

  • nohavpsnohavps Member, Host Rep

    @jbiloh said:

    @cold said:

    @dosai said:
    Does it come with deadpool tracker?

    good question Sir !!!!

    That's a fun idea and something I've wanted to add to LowEndBox.

    On lowendtalk too please ;)

    Thanked by 2oloke tentor
  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    I thought it was a bit funny racknerd was the "highest rated" provider but I guess that makes sense when you're just shamelessly copy pasting the same review and changing the name ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited September 2025

    @beanman109 said:
    I thought it was a bit funny racknerd was the "highest rated" provider but I guess that makes sense when you're just shamelessly copy pasting the same review and changing the name ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I believe the explanation for this relies in the optimisation of the algorithm to produce more concrete reviews based on the input of information from the global search mechanics. It needs more adjustments with regards to the filters used for the data scrubbed then another analysis of existing data before content gets published.

    In short: they're working on it and everything is fine in about 89%.

    /s

    Thanked by 2beanman109 MannDude
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @default said:

    @beanman109 said:
    I thought it was a bit funny racknerd was the "highest rated" provider but I guess that makes sense when you're just shamelessly copy pasting the same review and changing the name ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I believe the explanation for this relies in the optimisation of the algorithm to produce more concrete reviews based on the input of information from the global search mechanics. It needs more adjustments with regards to the filters used for the data scrubbed then another analysis of existing data before content gets published.

    In short: they're working on it and everything is fine in about 89%.

    /s

    90% good soon (tm)

  • Can it be an option to change it to "Yearly Service Cost" since some people have $7/yr vps and i can't run a benchmark using 0.58 cents when starting to do a benchmark test?

    Thanked by 1mandala
  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @Fubukibox said:
    Can it be an option to change it to "Yearly Service Cost" since some people have $7/yr vps and i can't run a benchmark using 0.58 cents when starting to do a benchmark test?

    Great suggestion. We will fix this.

    Thanked by 2Fubukibox oloke
  • paroxsiticparoxsitic Member
    edited September 2025

    What a lame launch to an otherwise good idea.

    You've used our YABs which was borderline shady, but the fact you AI generated reviews and tried to pass it off as real users makes me feel like this isn't legal.

    Just launch the site without reviews and get content legitimately like everyone else. I don't care about the benchmarks but allow host providers the chance to discredit the bad ones. And actually put some thoughts into user experience instead of profit.

    You've already proved that you are ok with AI content though so I doubt I'll trust any of the reviews going forward.

    Thanked by 3oloke default mandala
  • @jbiloh said:

    @default said:

    @beanman109 said:
    I thought it was a bit funny racknerd was the "highest rated" provider but I guess that makes sense when you're just shamelessly copy pasting the same review and changing the name ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I believe the explanation for this relies in the optimisation of the algorithm to produce more concrete reviews based on the input of information from the global search mechanics. It needs more adjustments with regards to the filters used for the data scrubbed then another analysis of existing data before content gets published.

    In short: they're working on it and everything is fine in about 89%.

    /s

    90% good soon (tm)

    It would have been there had have no reviews... Community in mind? Not when you launched. Also banned hosts being on the platform? The community quite rightly called out, demonstrated and made it clear what they thought... Yet they're on there. So no, I don't think this has the community in mind at all.

    I had a look myself personally... I think there needs to be more validation, but it's too late.

    Great idea.
    Shit execution.
    Don't think the community was involved at all.

    Try again when we're not so out of touch...

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