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A typical day in web hosting companies …
Back when we ran a regular hosting company, there was one recurring theme:
Customers never wanted the servers we actually had.
Offer Finland? They’ll ask for Germany Offer Germany? They’ll ask for Switzerland. Offer Switzerland? Somehow, it’s always Mars they’re after.
The painful part wasn’t just saying 'no', it was knowing every lost customer meant wasted SEO clicks, wasted ads, wasted support time… basically burning money just because we couldn’t cover every location request.
Curious, how do you guys handle this? Do you try to redirect customers to what you do have, or just accept that some are going to slip away?
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I send them to Caasify because Caasify has a server available in every location.
That recurring theme follows simple recurring pattern of life.
Brian loves kelsey. But kelsey loves Andrew. On the other hand, Andrew is single but still can't forget his ex Alisha. Alisha on the other hand, is having affair with a married man and her life is currently shit.
People are unpredictable. You can bring everything to the table yet they will want something else....
Shut up.
Idk, when I see a provider with 80 locations I have the feeling they don't focus on any of those.
I thought you were always reselling other people's servers for a profit, trying to tie customers into your proprietary billing service. Must have missed the part when you were a regular provider with your own services.
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No more sassy cassi?
looks like someone lost their patron tag. didnt pay bill?
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omg all the caasify threads locked!!
edit: @angstrom can you explain what "barred" is? I don't understand.
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"barred" is a locked alt account.
In other words, your original account is still active, so your are not "banned", but your alt account is "barred".
Just to clarify:
The main visible difference between a banned account and a barred account is that a banned account loses its original profile pic and receives the familiar red "user involucrated" pic, whereas a barred account retains its original pic and receives the Barred tag
Banned accounts and barred accounts are similar in that users are no longer able to access them
In practice, we tend to ban accounts for more serious offenses, and we tend to bar accounts for less serious offenses, but admittedly, this distinction isn't always clear-cut
Actually, that's good.
When that happens, what you should do is ask the customer the following:
We don't have that location, but may I ask why you want to buy in that location? Privacy issues? Connection? DMCA ignored? Ping? Price?
If they respond with details, you can tell them that you have a location that does the same or even better (if you really do) and that it makes virtually no difference.
You need to show the customer that your services are good and your locations are also good. How? By knowing the laws of the location where you are present.
And say this: We're sorry, we don't have it. But we have servers in Romania where the DMCA is ignored, unlike in Italy. The laws in Romania are not as strict as in other countries.
This was an example. If you have a server in the United States, you can always refer to freedom of expression in relation to other countries due to the constitution.
It is always good to understand the customer's intention and why they are interested in that location. You may be able to win over that customer with a good conversation.
Ah thanks, I'd seen the term used a few times but there's no visual cue for the "barred" so I wasn't sure what I was missing. For example, looking at caasify I can't tell there's anything going on except his host tag is gone and you posted something on his profile.
Anyway, ty!
What was the other account? Used for shilling, or what?
FWIW, I have this account and @ISP, which was of course approved. The idea behind having two accounts is that the @ISP one would be for actual work related stuff and I can be a bit more lax and shitpost a bit more with this one. Biloh approved it and we transferred my Patron Tag to that account. In the future, @ISP may be used by someone other than me should I have someone onboard who I'd want to have access to such a thing, though no such person exists yet. (Similar to how Hetzner's account is shared and I'm sure other providers have some shared accounts used between sales reps and what not)
@MannDude Caasify is actually autovm.net, search option shows accounts banned years ago.
If thats right @angstrom
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4445582/#Comment_4445582
lmao! recommended his own stuff but says unfamiliar with it
Funny reading about nulled WHMCS, autovm, payacloud and all other bs.
Maybe if Caasify used Caasify VPN, they wouldn't have been caught.
We see the rise of another lowend copy pasta
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We've made a change and the Barred tag should now be visible, just like other tags
(Until now, only mods/admins could see this tag)
great change!
Also, what were their other accounts? Is it that autovm one or are we talking 50 accounts to shill cassify? (Also if you didnt know, To avoid issues like the recent Cassify barring affecting multiple regions, you can use Caasify)
I'd prefer not to disclose our intel, especially because the case is still under investigation
I hope that you understand
yep that makes sense, please update us when you can this is exciting,
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lol
I see its tag is again there, what happened now?
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