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Debian 13 is coming...

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @angstrom said: There's a reason why (e.g.) RHEL doesn't (or didn't) support upgrades to major versions.

    Didn't. They do now and in fact seem pretty enthusiastic about them.

    "While fresh installs can still be used for greenfield projects, in-place upgrades are the clear winner when modernizing existing environments. In-place upgrades are also a crucial part of the RHEL ecosystem, so their ongoing support is to be expected, along with planned innovations."

    https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/what-are-rhel-place-upgrades

    Thanked by 1angstrom
  • FritzFritz Veteran

    I've been using it for almost 5 months to be able to use incus natively. No problem so far.

  • In 90% of cases, it does not change the name of the network interface, but creates an alternative name

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @raindog308 said:

    @angstrom said: There's a reason why (e.g.) RHEL doesn't (or didn't) support upgrades to major versions.

    Didn't. They do now and in fact seem pretty enthusiastic about them.

    "While fresh installs can still be used for greenfield projects, in-place upgrades are the clear winner when modernizing existing environments. In-place upgrades are also a crucial part of the RHEL ecosystem, so their ongoing support is to be expected, along with planned innovations."

    https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/what-are-rhel-place-upgrades

    Just to note that Rocky Linux seems different in this respect, at least until now:

    Since day one of the Rocky Linux project, some have asked: How do you upgrade from CentOS 7 to Rocky 8, or Rocky 8 to Rocky 9? The answer is always the same: The project does not support in-place upgrades of one major version to another major version. You need to reinstall to move to the next major version. To be clear, this IS the correct answer.

    (From https://docs.rockylinux.org/guides/update_versions/ )

    Thanked by 1raindog308
  • @angstrom said: Rocky Linux seems different in this respect

    Regarding AlmaLinux: successfully upgraded a couple of my servers from 9 to 10 via leapp this weekend.

    Thanked by 1angstrom
  • And today... Debian turns 32! 🎉

  • zedzed Member

    Whatever happened to Deb?

  • ascicodeascicode Member
    edited August 2025

    sparky 8 released on 13 last week named "seven sisters"

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran

    @zed said:
    Whatever happened to Deb?

    She did Dallas.

    Thanked by 2nghialele TimboJones
  • zedzed Member

    @MannDude said:

    @zed said:
    Whatever happened to Deb?

    She did Dallas.

    hah you. Wikipedia just says she was his girlfriend then ex-wife.

  • @Carlin0 said:
    And today... Debian turns 32! 🎉

    Any Debian $7/yr dealz here?

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    It's sad how Ian Murdoch died so young by suicide. Clearly, he had or developed serious psychological issues that he wasn't capable of addressing alone. At the same time, he also didn't receive proper treatment for them (or he wasn't open to treatment)

    Not a rare pattern, unfortunately

  • still using debian 6.

  • http://pub.linuxmint.io/testing/lmde-7-cinnamon-64bit-beta.iso

    Get first for LMDE7 beta based on trixie.

  • dustincdustinc Member, Patron Provider, Top Host
    edited September 2025

    Debian 13 is shaping up to be a nice release. Rock solid, on the servers we have that are running it. Always been one of the more stable Linux OS's out there in my opinion, and looks like that tradition continues :)

    By the way, as of a couple weeks ago Debian 13 was also added as an available OS template on RackNerd’s KVM VPS platform. Existing customers can reinstall freshly, if desired, by following the video tutorial:

  • @dustinc said:
    Debian 13 is shaping up to be a nice release. Rock solid, on the servers we have that are running it. Always been one of the more stable Linux OS's out there in my opinion, and looks like that tradition continues :)

    By the way, as of a couple weeks ago Debian 13 was also added as an available OS template on RackNerd’s KVM VPS platform. Existing customers can reinstall freshly, if desired, by following the video tutorial:

    Can't wait for tomorrow order :)) Racknerd

  • dustincdustinc Member, Patron Provider, Top Host

    @riomartin said:

    @dustinc said:
    Debian 13 is shaping up to be a nice release. Rock solid, on the servers we have that are running it. Always been one of the more stable Linux OS's out there in my opinion, and looks like that tradition continues :)

    By the way, as of a couple weeks ago Debian 13 was also added as an available OS template on RackNerd’s KVM VPS platform. Existing customers can reinstall freshly, if desired, by following the video tutorial:

    Can't wait for tomorrow order :)) Racknerd

    Hi @riomartin -- awesome to hear! Appreciate the support and looking forward to having you onboard tomorrow. You’ll be able to deploy Debian 13 right away if that’s what you’re after - always good to see it in action on production workloads :)

    By the way, you can find our latest deals here: https://racknerd.com/specials

    We sincerely appreciate the opportunity.

    Thanked by 1JohnnySac
  • @zed said:

    @MannDude said:

    @zed said:
    Whatever happened to Deb?

    She did Dallas.

    hah you. Wikipedia just says she was his girlfriend then ex-wife.

    Skipped the wife stage?

    Thanked by 1stable_genius
  • @TimboJones said:

    @zed said:

    @MannDude said:

    @zed said:
    Whatever happened to Deb?

    She did Dallas.

    hah you. Wikipedia just says she was his girlfriend then ex-wife.

    Skipped the wife stage?

    Weird right? That's Wikipedia for you I guess.

  • There will a trixie point release next weekend

    Thanked by 1david
  • So couple months went by from the initial release. Now it's safe to say all serious providers should offer Debian 13 template and those are also my preferred providers. If someone is stuck at 12 or even worse 11, then I would think hard what else they have outdated and why should I choose them.

  • @Carlin0 said:
    There will a trixie point release next weekend

    In fact, it will already be the .2 release :)

  • Currently

    cat /etc/debian_version
    13.1
    
  • Point release today

    cat /etc/debian_version
    13.3
    
    Thanked by 1Xrmaddness
  • @Carlin0 said:
    Point release today

    cat /etc/debian_version
    13.3
    

    Nothing showing up on there website!

  • @wii747 said:

    @Carlin0 said:
    Point release today

    cat /etc/debian_version
    13.3
    

    Nothing showing up on there website!

    https://www.debian.org/News/2026/20260110

    Thanked by 3zed Carlin0 wii747
  • ralfralf Member

    @raindog308 said:

    @angstrom said: There's a reason why (e.g.) RHEL doesn't (or didn't) support upgrades to major versions.

    Didn't. They do now and in fact seem pretty enthusiastic about them.

    "While fresh installs can still be used for greenfield projects, in-place upgrades are the clear winner when modernizing existing environments. In-place upgrades are also a crucial part of the RHEL ecosystem, so their ongoing support is to be expected, along with planned innovations."

    Just noticed this comment and smiled to myself.

    I business, everything a competitor does that you don't is the worst idea imaginable until you figure out how to do it as well, and then suddenly it's obviously the best way after all.

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