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  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited July 2025

    @avsisp said: And I'll never understand the home ISPs that break all the rules and conventions to the point it becomes a convention with the /56 to home routers

    There needs to be more than one /64 to a home customer, in case they need to separate Guest WiFi from their main LAN. And that's just the most basic example, others may include networks for IoT, VMs, containers and so on. A /56 is seen as a reasonable middle ground between /64 (too small) and /48 (too big). Not sure what you mean "it is not a nibble", it is debatable what a nibble even is, when it comes to IPv6. But it is a clean separation on two characters in the IP, you can filter by 2001:db8:abcd:ef00::/56 (basically 2001:db8:abcd:ef*) and it looks clean. Not as if it was a /58, /62 or so.

    But it is good to see a provider to be actively interested in IPv6 and have their own opinions about network design.

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  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep
    edited July 2025

    @avsisp said:

    @oloke said:

    @AspireHosting said:
    What should I offer?

    Any suggestions?

    You should offer /64 ipv6 subnet in all your locations.

    @yoursunny can confirm.

    /64 is for homenets :lol:

    Hosts really should be giving out /48.

    And I'll never understand the home ISPs that break all the rules and conventions to the point it becomes a convention with the /56 to home routers... It's literally not even a nibble and cannot be filtered - for example say you have a ddos filter that blocks IPs at the nibble (because with IPv6 you cannot block like you do with v4 per address) - with the way some home ISPs are doing it, you'll block half the neighborhood instead of a single location.

    My basic understanding is this:
    /40 or higher for webhosts, etc.
    /48 per VM / client site
    /64 per end-user
    /128 per end-user device, etc.

    Meanwhile @AspireHosting provides /74 subnet in one of their locations (in others they don't have ipv6 at all).

    If that's not breaking conventions then I don't know what is...

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  • AspireHostingAspireHosting Member, Patron Provider

    @oloke said:

    @avsisp said:

    @oloke said:

    @AspireHosting said:
    What should I offer?

    Any suggestions?

    You should offer /64 ipv6 subnet in all your locations.

    @yoursunny can confirm.

    /64 is for homenets :lol:

    Hosts really should be giving out /48.

    And I'll never understand the home ISPs that break all the rules and conventions to the point it becomes a convention with the /56 to home routers... It's literally not even a nibble and cannot be filtered - for example say you have a ddos filter that blocks IPs at the nibble (because with IPv6 you cannot block like you do with v4 per address) - with the way some home ISPs are doing it, you'll block half the neighborhood instead of a single location.

    My basic understanding is this:
    /40 or higher for webhosts, etc.
    /48 per VM / client site
    /64 per end-user
    /128 per end-user device, etc.

    Meanwhile @AspireHosting provides /74 subnet in one of their locations (in others they don't have ipv6 at all).

    If that's not braking conventions then I don't know what is...

    Current situation:

    1. Dallas - /74 (Will be changing it to /64 soon, need to find a proper time to schedule it)
    2. Miami - /64
    3. Frankfurt - Same as dallas, will schedule downtime/maintenance when possible and implement /64.
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  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @rm_ said:

    @avsisp said: And I'll never understand the home ISPs that break all the rules and conventions to the point it becomes a convention with the /56 to home routers

    There needs to be more than one /64 to a home customer, in case they need to separate Guest WiFi from their main LAN. And that's just the most basic example, others may include networks for IoT, VMs, containers and so on. A /56 is seen as a reasonable middle ground between /64 (too small) and /48 (too big). Not sure what you mean "it is not a nibble", it is debatable what a nibble even is, when it comes to IPv6. But it is a clean separation on two characters in the IP, you can filter by 2001:db8:abcd:ef00::/56 (basically 2001:db8:abcd:ef*) and it looks clean. Not as if it was a /58, /62 or so.

    But it is good to see a provider to be actively interested in IPv6 and have their own opinions about network design.

    Thanks :)

    But - A /64 can be sub-delegated down so that your vlans are on /72 or whatever you feel like. And I really think that's a VERY rare use-case. Most home ISP users aren't running all that. If they are - they should probably have a /48 (which the ISP should give without complaints tbh). There is also the option of using IPv6's "NAT" features to use local-only IPv6 addresses that are translated at the router --- I KNOW - I KNOW - it breaks the "P2P, PTP" of how the internet is supposed to behave and what IPv6 is supposed to fix.. but it also saves a lot of people that are used to using LAN/NAT IPv4 networks from having their devices that they probably haven't secured fully exposed to the internet...

    A nibble is definitely cleanly defined. ARIN won't even let you do rDNS servers on something that isn't a nibble. If it cannot end where the next : begins, not a nibble.

    :) And finally --- another SANE PERSON that cares about IPv6. Nice to meet you :)

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited July 2025

    @avsisp said: A /64 can be sub-delegated down so that your vlans are on /72 or whatever you feel like.

    The automatic address selection via SLAAC will not work on any subnet smaller than /64, so you're left with DHCPv6. And not every client device supports DHCPv6 (Android doesn't!), and IMO it is a hassle to set up and use.

  • HostBilbyHostBilby Member, Patron Provider

    @Rubben said:

    @bingobangobongo said:

    @fly056 said:

    @bingobangobongo said:

    🚀 LIMITED STOCK

    Quick little flash deal, valid for other billing terms too ;)

    2/2/20/2/2

    https://www.hostbilby.com/store/le-specials/le-speshul

    Does this get the upgrade in 3 months as well?

    This is a custom flash plan - not part of the normal line up - so unfortunately not…

    ok so like do i need an 11th vm to impulse buy? :sob: or is 10 enough?

    Always turn it to 11!

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  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    Looking at the discussion I will be honest I don't know much about IPv6... any good IPv6 get started info to read?

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  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    I think it is illegal to not have a play bingo with @bingobangobongo session

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  • ehabehab Member
    edited July 2025

    hey @rm_ nice 2 see you ... what are you up to lately ?

    all good i hope :blush:

    hey, i have setup ipv6 only vps and i can ssh all the time but keep losing outgoing internet.

    auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

#iface eth0 inet dhcp

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet6 static
    accept_ra 0
    address 2a0f:...d9:c81e
        netmask 48
        gateway 2a0f:...:abcd::1

    when i restart networking, it works,,,, discounnect and comeback tomorrow... no outgoing and i have to restart again.

    can you please tell me something i ask the provider to check? or fix the above

  • PenguinPenguin Member

    @bingobangobongo said:
    Always turn it to 11!

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  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @rm_ said:

    @avsisp said: A /64 can be sub-delegated down so that your vlans are on /72 or whatever you feel like.

    The automatic address selection via SLAAC will not work on any subnet smaller than /64, so you're left with DHCPv6. And not every client device supports DHCPv6 (Android doesn't!), and IMO it is a hassle to set up and use.

    On Android - I have an app that makes DHCPv6 work ;)

    But I agree - SLAAC is the best practice just because it's so widely supported. IDK what Google was thinking by leaving DHCPv6 out of Android... It's the only case I can think of...

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @FAT32 said:
    I see some new faces @Arc - would you potentially have something for us? Maybe something like 74% site-wide discount? :wink:

    @Decicus said:

    @beanman109 said:

    @muffin said:

    @NetDynamics24 said:

    Dedicated Storage Server Offer ($1/TB)

    CPU: Intel Xeon W-1250
    RAM: 64 GB
    Disks: 960 GB NVMe + 4 x 28 TB HDD
    iGPU Enabled
    Unmetered Traffic @ 1 Gbit
    1 IPv4
    Location: LA, California
    $113/month
    order now

    isn't this just gorillaservers' most recent offer with a $14 markup?

    Something something "goes towards lunch"

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  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    Guys I think there's an insane deal here: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4462781/#Comment_4462781

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  • nvmenvme Member

    @FAT32 said:
    Guys I think there's an insane deal here: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4462781/#Comment_4462781

    This is really insane, let's hope we reach 50 unique comments

    Thanked by 2khalequzzaman FAT32
  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 2025

    Btw guys - I haven't really noticed any other Balkans deals here. Is it just not common at all in the Balkans or did I miss any? :) Wanted to grab some up myself if I see any good deals.

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @ebietsy said:

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  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @avsisp said:
    Btw guys - I haven't really noticed any other Balkans deals here. Is it just not common at all in the Balkans or did I miss any? :) Wanted to grab some up myself if I see any good deals.

    How about balkan sisters? Does that count?

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  • fly056fly056 Member

    @default said:

    @avsisp said:
    Btw guys - I haven't really noticed any other Balkans deals here. Is it just not common at all in the Balkans or did I miss any? :) Wanted to grab some up myself if I see any good deals.

    How about balkan sisters? Does that count?

    Thanked by 1ehab
  • avsispavsisp Member, Patron Provider

    @fly056 said:

    @default said:

    @avsisp said:
    Btw guys - I haven't really noticed any other Balkans deals here. Is it just not common at all in the Balkans or did I miss any? :) Wanted to grab some up myself if I see any good deals.

    How about balkan sisters? Does that count?

    Thanked by 1ehab
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    edited July 2025

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  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited July 2025

    The time has come for LET to unite.

    @HostDZire will organise a special offer if 50 thanks + 50 comments are met. We need those thanks and comments in 30 minutes. Please help to meet the target you beautiful low-end cheapskates! 30 minutes are left.

    Thanks need to be done on this comment. Your comment afterwards need to be done on that same thread, preferably with the text "HostDZire is on fire".

    Come on, please help, for the happiness of FAT32 partition who managed to steal that crazy deal out of provider's (mouth) keyboard.

    Thanked by 7fly056 HostDZire navneetkk FAT32 avsisp ebietsy Xrmaddness
  • daviddavid Member

    I get a /56 at home. I wish VPSes would come with at least a /56, too. Wireguard needs it's own /64 really. It won't share. Otherwise you end up with IPv6 NAT for wireguard.

    That's one thing Linode does right. They gave me two /64's, and would have switched it to a /56, as well, if preferred.

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  • ehabehab Member

    where is

    hey @VisualWebTechnologies where are you?

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  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @ehab said:
    where is

    hey @VisualWebTechnologies where are you?

    Thanked by 1ehab
  • nobizzlenobizzle Member
    edited July 2025

    @Falzo said:

    @nobizzle said:

    could you run yabs on the storage disk instead and add a GB6 ? thanks ;-)

    Sorry for being late to the party, here is a fresh yabs made on the storage hdd.

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2025-04-20                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

Sat Jul  5 03:35:55 PM EDT 2025

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 0 days, 14 hours, 17 minutes
Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2695 v4 @ 2.10GHz
CPU cores  : 4 @ 2097.568 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 5.8 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 5.0 TiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Kernel     : 6.1.0-31-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

IPv6 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : ColocaTel Inc.
ASN        : AS213438 ColocaTel Inc.
Host       : ColocaTel Inc
Location   : Amsterdam, North Holland (NH)
Country    : The Netherlands

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/mapper/storage-data):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 781.00 KB/s    (195) | 3.74 MB/s       (58)
Write      | 818.00 KB/s    (204) | 3.96 MB/s       (61)
Total      | 1.59 MB/s      (399) | 7.71 MB/s      (119)
           |                      |                     
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 45.36 MB/s      (88) | 42.25 MB/s      (41)
Write      | 48.01 MB/s      (93) | 45.63 MB/s      (44)
Total      | 93.38 MB/s     (181) | 87.88 MB/s      (85)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 7.56 Gbits/sec  | 5.10 Gbits/sec  | 12.8 ms        
Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 9.10 Gbits/sec  | 7.60 Gbits/sec  | 11.0 ms        
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 2.10 Gbits/sec  | 857 Mbits/sec   | 113 ms         
Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 110 Mbits/sec   | 961 Mbits/sec   | 162 ms         
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.30 Gbits/sec  | 520 Mbits/sec   | 146 ms         
Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.40 Gbits/sec  | 2.07 Gbits/sec  | 79.0 ms        
Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 67.5 Mbits/sec  | 423 Mbits/sec   | 206 ms         

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 255 Mbits/sec   | 6.71 Gbits/sec  | 12.7 ms        
Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 257 Mbits/sec   | 6.02 Gbits/sec  | 11.0 ms        
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 15.4 Mbits/sec  | 869 Mbits/sec   | 111 ms         
Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 63.2 Mbits/sec  | 752 Mbits/sec   | 162 ms         
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 114 Mbits/sec   | 377 Mbits/sec   | 144 ms         
Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 116 Mbits/sec   | 2.28 Gbits/sec  | 79.1 ms        
Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 50.9 Mbits/sec  | 361 Mbits/sec   | 202 ms         

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------ti
Test            | Value                         
                |                               
Single Core     | 720                           
Multi Core      | 1859                          
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/12734787

YABS completed in 20 min 33 sec

    @HostSlick said:
    You can now confirm its fixed? Never heard again from you Afterwards.

    Have a look at the yabs. What is the problem with send speed on ipv6? Disk I/O is also.. below average. There is a pending ticket

    Ticket #295291

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  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited July 2025

    @default said:
    The time has come for LET to unite.

    @HostDZire will organise a special offer if 50 thanks + 50 comments are met. We need those thanks and comments in 30 minutes. Please help to meet the target you beautiful low-end cheapskates! 30 minutes are left.

    Thanks need to be done on this comment. Your comment afterwards need to be done on that same thread, preferably with the text "HostDZire is on fire".

    Come on, please help, for the happiness of FAT32 partition who managed to steal that crazy deal out of provider's (mouth) keyboard.

    Thanked by 2nobizzle FAT32
  • ehabehab Member

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  • nobizzlenobizzle Member
    edited July 2025

    wildin'

  • lala_thlala_th Member

    @HostDZire 50 thanks! Show me what you can do now :)

    Thanked by 2FAT32 ZachNuyek
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