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MXroute Black Friday Deals - Bring Your Own Domain Email Service!

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  • zedzed Member

    @kooky said: Easter promo, maybe? I always miss the perfect timing to catch @jar's MXroute deals.

    He seems to drop crazy coupons when annoyed, give it a shot!

    Thanked by 3kooky jar vr10
  • @kooky said:

    @anakara said:

    @COLBYLICIOUS said:

    @anakara said:
    Has anyone transferred a lifetime package?xD

    Are you interested in one?

    Thanks, but I already bought Namecrane lifetime.
    I also had the 50% code of the jar for only $37.5 for the lifetime package but I chose to skip it because I didn't use it all.

    Easter promo, maybe? I always miss the perfect timing to catch @jar's MXroute deals.

    Already grabbed a lifetime CraneMail package—wouldn't mind scoring another lifetime deal from MXroute.

    random promotion only. 50% discount is very attractive with lifetime package

    Thanked by 1kooky
  • kookykooky Member

    @anakara: A 50% discount on the lifetime plan is definitely hard to resist.

    @zed: I noticed that here too—just waiting for some spammer to set him off!

    Thanked by 1anakara
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited April 2025

    Between April 13th and today we've blocked 12,217,120 spam emails using our susranges system. The few false positives in there are rapidly dwindling, already down from a cry to a whisper, as was the intended flow. The number of false positives also wouldn't change the number enough to make it less impressive. That's just ONE of our anti-spam layers. Another 238,059 spam emails were blocked from Google Cloud with absolutely zero false positives ever having been reported against that ACL.

    Over and over and over again the primary complaint of our customers has been that they receive too much spam. Every time we get somewhere on it, the complaints of false positives arise, and we have to revert what we've done. This is the only time we've been able to keep our success AND reduce false positives at the same time. We're well on our way to industry leading anti-spam efforts.

    I know not every single thing you get at MXroute is the prettiest or the most refined, but we've had outbound delivery down for so long it's long past time we try to be the best at something else too. This is one I'm proud of.

  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    @jar said: Between April 13th and today we've blocked 12,217,120 spam emails using our susranges system.

    That's 2 million a day, 84 thousand an hour, 1414 a minute, 23 emails every second for 6 days straight.

    Impressive.

  • +Respect @jar

    Thanked by 1jar
  • kookykooky Member
    edited April 2025

    @jar said:
    Between April 13th and today we've blocked 12,217,120 spam emails using our susranges system. The few false positives in there are rapidly dwindling, already down from a cry to a whisper, as was the intended flow. The number of false positives also wouldn't change the number enough to make it less impressive. That's just ONE of our anti-spam layers. Another 238,059 spam emails were blocked from Google Cloud with absolutely zero false positives ever having been reported against that ACL.

    That's awesome work. Really impressive numbers! Are you seeing this spam coming from a wide mix of networks and countries, or do certain sources stand out more than others?

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @kooky said:

    @jar said:
    Between April 13th and today we've blocked 12,217,120 spam emails using our susranges system. The few false positives in there are rapidly dwindling, already down from a cry to a whisper, as was the intended flow. The number of false positives also wouldn't change the number enough to make it less impressive. That's just ONE of our anti-spam layers. Another 238,059 spam emails were blocked from Google Cloud with absolutely zero false positives ever having been reported against that ACL.

    That's awesome work. Really impressive numbers! Are you seeing this spam coming from a wide mix of networks and countries, or do certain sources stand out more than others?

    Mostly the sources you’d expect, but I have a suspicion that my success here is doing something else that I predicted: Driving spammers to networks that aren’t being treated with increased scrutiny. I joked about driving them all to Google so that the entire industry would pounce on them, and they have the resources to hurt spammers if they wanted to.

    So far, if I’ve driven them anywhere (recognizing of course that it’s a bit cocky to think I have), it’s Hetzner. That I didn’t see coming.

    Thanked by 1kooky
  • kookykooky Member

    @jar said:

    Mostly the sources you’d expect, but I have a suspicion that my success here is doing something else that I predicted: Driving spammers to networks that aren’t being treated with increased scrutiny. I joked about driving them all to Google so that the entire industry would pounce on them, and they have the resources to hurt spammers if they wanted to.

    So far, if I’ve driven them anywhere (recognizing of course that it’s a bit cocky to think I have), it’s Hetzner. That I didn’t see coming.

    I think I have an idea of the sources you’re referring to. I’ve got one domain that’s constantly being spoofed by someone or maybe a group, behind a large Asian network. DMARC catches and rejects them. Still, I can’t help but wonder if a few slip through on non-compliant servers.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • read here on another thread that some bf offers are still available
    can't find anything on the website tho
    could someone point me to the right direction? ty

  • @Roboduck said:
    read here on another thread that some bf offers are still available
    can't find anything on the website tho
    could someone point me to the right direction? ty

    https://mxroute.blackfriday/

  • @maverick said:

    @Roboduck said:
    read here on another thread that some bf offers are still available
    can't find anything on the website tho
    could someone point me to the right direction? ty

    https://mxroute.blackfriday/

    Thanks a lot! Wasn't aware of this domain. Anyways, purchasing doesn't work, when clicking on the checkout button the next page isn't loading. I guess they took it down :/

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Roboduck said:

    @maverick said:

    @Roboduck said:
    read here on another thread that some bf offers are still available
    can't find anything on the website tho
    could someone point me to the right direction? ty

    https://mxroute.blackfriday/

    Thanks a lot! Wasn't aware of this domain. Anyways, purchasing doesn't work, when clicking on the checkout button the next page isn't loading. I guess they took it down :/

    Make sure you're not using a VPN for the order. Due to unusually high levels of abuse we don't even accept connections to the billing system from VPNs anymore.

  • @jar said:

    @Roboduck said:

    @maverick said:

    @Roboduck said:
    read here on another thread that some bf offers are still available
    can't find anything on the website tho
    could someone point me to the right direction? ty

    https://mxroute.blackfriday/

    Thanks a lot! Wasn't aware of this domain. Anyways, purchasing doesn't work, when clicking on the checkout button the next page isn't loading. I guess they took it down :/

    Make sure you're not using a VPN for the order. Due to unusually high levels of abuse we don't even accept connections to the billing system from VPNs anymore.

    So if I'm a customer already, I won't be able to connect to https://accounts.mxroute.com/ through a VPN? What about from behind a CGNAT (most cellular) connections?

    TIA

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @ypmLA77zcs said:

    @jar said:

    @Roboduck said:

    @maverick said:

    @Roboduck said:
    read here on another thread that some bf offers are still available
    can't find anything on the website tho
    could someone point me to the right direction? ty

    https://mxroute.blackfriday/

    Thanks a lot! Wasn't aware of this domain. Anyways, purchasing doesn't work, when clicking on the checkout button the next page isn't loading. I guess they took it down :/

    Make sure you're not using a VPN for the order. Due to unusually high levels of abuse we don't even accept connections to the billing system from VPNs anymore.

    So if I'm a customer already, I won't be able to connect to https://accounts.mxroute.com/ through a VPN? What about from behind a CGNAT (most cellular) connections?

    TIA

    Most likely you would not be able to connect to our billing platform from a VPN. Connecting to your mail service from one is fine. Nothing else is relevant, it’s just a massive block of known VPN provider IPs.

  • Please move INBOX.spam folder to the main Junk/Spam folder. Seeing the spam sub folder on main inbox is really an eyesore. https://www.directadmin.com/features.php?id=1679

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited August 2025

    @jcolideles said:
    Please move INBOX.spam folder to the main Junk/Spam folder. Seeing the spam sub folder on main inbox is really an eyesore. https://www.directadmin.com/features.php?id=1679

    That's not a task to be done lightly as it impacts users and not all mail clients have the same defaults for folder mapping. However, if you follow my advice here you'll see I don't recommend that setting at all: https://docs.mxroute.com/docs/spam-filter.html

    There's really no benefit because with our filters the only way you're getting email in the spam folder is to tune it low enough to get false positives. Spam largely either passes with flying colors straight to the inbox, or it fails entirely and never makes it through.

    That whole SpamAssassin interface is getting an overhaul.

  • After going through the Black Friday site it says lifetime plan is currently unavailable? Is that expected behaviour? If so, will a lifetime offer ever happen again? Thanks.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Blandest said:
    After going through the Black Friday site it says lifetime plan is currently unavailable? Is that expected behaviour? If so, will a lifetime offer ever happen again? Thanks.

    The normal lifetime plan is still in stock: https://accounts.mxroute.com/index.php?/news/view/53/lifetime-plan/

  • BlandestBlandest Member
    edited August 2025

    I found an option that worked for me and signed up today. Thanks for the reply. One more question. I'm used to the definition of spam as "Unsolicited Bulk Email". Now, you instead say no marketing emails and no exceptions. But then you describe, e.g., on https://docs.mxroute.com/docs/presales/marketing.html , that there are some forms of marketing emails allowed, e.g., "Legitimate newsletters, updates to your customers, or other non-promotional communications". I call these marketing because they're not transactional to me. I'm not a spammer and I have no sympathy for spammers. But I do operate a non-profit and a business, and I never want to be in non-compliance with your terms of service for obvious reasons. So is it as simple as, if you have a newsletter or email list, it's fine to send an email out to all of the recipients, as long as long as it's not primarily about a good or service? For example, if we release a new video on our YouTube channel for our non-profit, and we want to send that to all of our newsletter subscribers, is that fine? I think that use case is more clear. But as a business, if you get something new in (new good or service, or new modification to existing good or service), and want to tell your customers about it, is that an allowable update email or is that a promotional email? What about if it's fundraising time for your non-profit and you want to remind your double opted in subscribers about that, is that a promotional email or legitimate newsletter to your customers? I'm not trying to be a pain, I just want to make sure I'm clear on what I can and cannot be doing.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Blandest said:
    I found an option that worked for me and signed up today. Thanks for the reply. One more question. I'm used to the definition of spam as "Unsolicited Bulk Email". Now, you instead say no marketing emails and no exceptions. But then you describe, e.g., on https://docs.mxroute.com/docs/presales/marketing.html , that there are some forms of marketing emails allowed, e.g., "Legitimate newsletters, updates to your customers, or other non-promotional communications". I call these marketing because they're not transactional to me. I'm not a spammer and I have no sympathy for spammers. But I do operate a non-profit and a business, and I never want to be in non-compliance with your terms of service for obvious reasons. So is it as simple as, if you have a newsletter or email list, it's fine to send an email out to all of the recipients, as long as long as it's not primarily about a good or service? For example, if we release a new video on our YouTube channel for our non-profit, and we want to send that to all of our newsletter subscribers, is that fine? I think that use case is more clear. But as a business, if you get something new in (new good or service, or new modification to existing good or service), and want to tell your customers about it, is that an allowable update email or is that a promotional email? What about if it's fundraising time for your non-profit and you want to remind your double opted in subscribers about that, is that a promotional email or legitimate newsletter to your customers? I'm not trying to be a pain, I just want to make sure I'm clear on what I can and cannot be doing.

    All I want is for you to not send emails that are trying to sell something. Unfortunately I can't get away with just saying those words in most cases not because it's not a simple concept, but because Florida Man thinks he's being sneaky when he instead sends a simple "cold outreach" that never tries to sell something, it just "starts a conversation to see if maybe my product might be a good fit for the recipient".... which is a sales email.

    But if you're not trying to be sneaky it's super simple for you, just don't try to sell something or try to get a sale through an email conversation that you initiated.

    Now if someone emails you and says "Hey how much for X" then replying isn't marketing, that's just talking.

  • Thank you for that clarification/making it simple. Appreciate you taking the time.

  • On_esOn_es Member

    One year anniversary with MXRoute, thanks for all of your hard work @jar.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • Just realized I've using mxroute since nov-14. Time flies

    Thanked by 1jar
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