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GreenCloud's Zero Tolerance for Child Pornography

wangyuidlwangyuidl Barred
edited May 2025 in General

I’m a Greencloudvps customer who prepaid for a 3-year plan to host a free, ad-free photo upload website as a personal project.
Given the nature of user-generated content, some harmful material inevitably gets uploaded. I implemented the projectarachnid.ca API to monitor and manage content, but some inappropriate images still went undetected, resulting in reports from various sources.
After four such reports, Greencloudvps wiped all my data. I promptly removed reported content within 30 minutes each time, yet on the fourth instance, my VPS data was erased just 5 minutes after the report. Despite my full cooperation in addressing violations, they deleted my entire dataset of about 1.5 million images.
Has anyone else encountered a similar issue with a hosting provider?
I asked to have my service temporarily restored for 3 days to back up and delete my data, but they refused.
Does anyone have experience with a similar situation? :disappointed:

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  • So where's your backup?
    If you build an object storage, immediate file sync is the first thing you should consider.

    Thanked by 3jsg jnd sillycat
  • no because nobody does that

    Thanked by 1mrTom
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @lowendclient said:
    So where's your backup?
    If you build an object storage, immediate file sync is the first thing you should consider.

    RAID is backup

    Thanked by 2jnd ralf
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @wangyuidl said:
    I’m a Greencloudvps customer who prepaid for a 3-year plan to host a free, ad-free photo upload website as a personal project.
    Given the nature of user-generated content, some harmful material inevitably gets uploaded. I implemented the projectarachnid.ca API to monitor and manage content, but some inappropriate images still went undetected, resulting in reports from various sources.
    After four such reports, Greencloudvps wiped all my data. I promptly removed reported content within 30 minutes each time, yet on the fourth instance, my VPS data was erased just 5 minutes after the report. Despite my full cooperation in addressing violations, they deleted my entire dataset of about 1.5 million images.
    Has anyone else encountered a similar issue with a hosting provider?
    I asked to have my service temporarily restored for 3 days to back up and delete my data, but they refused.
    Does anyone have experience with a similar situation? :disappointed:

    Did you read the ToS?

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • @plumberg said:

    @lowendclient said:
    So where's your backup?
    If you build an object storage, immediate file sync is the first thing you should consider.

    RAID is backup

    o:)

    Thanked by 1plumberg
  • ailiceailice Member

    Buddy so brave host on GCV on that scale without asking use-case first.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @ailice said:
    Buddy so brave host on GCV on that scale without asking use-case first.

    Scale is not the problem

    Content is

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • you host sensitive content and scale it without fully reading TOS and not even have a backup for this
    ..?

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @harris1111 said:
    you host sensitive content and scale it without fully reading TOS and not even have a backup for this
    ..?

    Told it b4.
    Host has RAID, so no backup needed

    Thanked by 3jnd barbarza sillycat
  • ailiceailice Member

    @plumberg said:
    Scale is not the problem
    Content is

    I mean, if on that scale (which big enough to have loss) he didnt ask use case first to GCV and brave enough to host it.

    Also he said removed content within 30 minutes, which probably there some miss communication support and abuse team about this case (even they doing quick response time)

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @ailice said:

    @plumberg said:
    Scale is not the problem
    Content is

    I mean, if on that scale (which big enough to have loss) he didnt ask use case first to GCV and brave enough to host it.

    Also he said removed content within 30 minutes, which probably there some miss communication support and abuse team about this case (even they doing quick response time)

    Looks like OP thought as long as I filter content I will br fine, without actually reading the TOS

    Yeah...

  • @plumberg said:

    @wangyuidl said:
    I’m a Greencloudvps customer who prepaid for a 3-year plan to host a free, ad-free photo upload website as a personal project.
    Given the nature of user-generated content, some harmful material inevitably gets uploaded. I implemented the projectarachnid.ca API to monitor and manage content, but some inappropriate images still went undetected, resulting in reports from various sources.
    After four such reports, Greencloudvps wiped all my data. I promptly removed reported content within 30 minutes each time, yet on the fourth instance, my VPS data was erased just 5 minutes after the report. Despite my full cooperation in addressing violations, they deleted my entire dataset of about 1.5 million images.
    Has anyone else encountered a similar issue with a hosting provider?
    I asked to have my service temporarily restored for 3 days to back up and delete my data, but they refused.
    Does anyone have experience with a similar situation? :disappointed:

    Did you read the ToS?

    Of course I read it, but didn't think they would delete customer data after 5 minutes

  • @plumberg said:

    @ailice said:
    Buddy so brave host on GCV on that scale without asking use-case first.

    Scale is not the problem

    Content is

    I know content matters, but I can't control 100% of the content users post, that's my fault.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @wangyuidl said:

    @plumberg said:

    @wangyuidl said:
    I’m a Greencloudvps customer who prepaid for a 3-year plan to host a free, ad-free photo upload website as a personal project.
    Given the nature of user-generated content, some harmful material inevitably gets uploaded. I implemented the projectarachnid.ca API to monitor and manage content, but some inappropriate images still went undetected, resulting in reports from various sources.
    After four such reports, Greencloudvps wiped all my data. I promptly removed reported content within 30 minutes each time, yet on the fourth instance, my VPS data was erased just 5 minutes after the report. Despite my full cooperation in addressing violations, they deleted my entire dataset of about 1.5 million images.
    Has anyone else encountered a similar issue with a hosting provider?
    I asked to have my service temporarily restored for 3 days to back up and delete my data, but they refused.
    Does anyone have experience with a similar situation? :disappointed:

    Did you read the ToS?

    Of course I read it, but didn't think they would delete customer data after 5 minutes

    You had 3 strikes already.

    Not sure what made you think they would slide it by

    They care about their infrastructure and ip reputation.

  • @wangyuidl said:

    @plumberg said:

    @wangyuidl said:
    I’m a Greencloudvps customer who prepaid for a 3-year plan to host a free, ad-free photo upload website as a personal project.
    Given the nature of user-generated content, some harmful material inevitably gets uploaded. I implemented the projectarachnid.ca API to monitor and manage content, but some inappropriate images still went undetected, resulting in reports from various sources.
    After four such reports, Greencloudvps wiped all my data. I promptly removed reported content within 30 minutes each time, yet on the fourth instance, my VPS data was erased just 5 minutes after the report. Despite my full cooperation in addressing violations, they deleted my entire dataset of about 1.5 million images.
    Has anyone else encountered a similar issue with a hosting provider?
    I asked to have my service temporarily restored for 3 days to back up and delete my data, but they refused.
    Does anyone have experience with a similar situation? :disappointed:

    Did you read the ToS?

    Of course I read it, but didn't think they would delete customer data after 5 minutes

    I would run rsync once per minute to backup my files to another server.
    It's a basic skill every webmaster should have.

  • lothoslothos Member

    @plumberg said:

    @lowendclient said:
    So where's your backup?
    If you build an object storage, immediate file sync is the first thing you should consider.

    RAID is backup

    No, raid is not a backup

    https://www.raidisnotabackup.com/

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @lothos said:

    @plumberg said:

    @lowendclient said:
    So where's your backup?
    If you build an object storage, immediate file sync is the first thing you should consider.

    RAID is backup

    No, raid is not a backup

    https://www.raidisnotabackup.com/

    It is

    Thanked by 3blorged sillycat analog
  • lothoslothos Member

    @plumberg said:

    @lothos said:

    @plumberg said:

    @lowendclient said:
    So where's your backup?
    If you build an object storage, immediate file sync is the first thing you should consider.

    RAID is backup

    No, raid is not a backup

    https://www.raidisnotabackup.com/

    It is

    Raid offers protection against a drive failing. That's it. Raid helps with high availability. Backups allow you to restore if the computer burns down. Raid is not a backup.

    Thanked by 2plumberg PineappleM
  • @lothos said:

    @plumberg said:

    @lothos said:

    @plumberg said:

    @lowendclient said:
    So where's your backup?
    If you build an object storage, immediate file sync is the first thing you should consider.

    RAID is backup

    No, raid is not a backup

    https://www.raidisnotabackup.com/

    It is

    Raid offers protection against a drive failing. That's it. Raid helps with high availability. Backups allow you to restore if the computer burns down. Raid is not a backup.

    They are being sarcastic ;-)

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @fredo1664 said:

    @lothos said:

    @plumberg said:

    @lothos said:

    @plumberg said:

    @lowendclient said:
    So where's your backup?
    If you build an object storage, immediate file sync is the first thing you should consider.

    RAID is backup

    No, raid is not a backup

    https://www.raidisnotabackup.com/

    It is

    Raid offers protection against a drive failing. That's it. Raid helps with high availability. Backups allow you to restore if the computer burns down. Raid is not a backup.

    They are being sarcastic ;-)

    So we all agree

  • NDTNNDTN Member, Patron Provider, Top Host

    @wangyuidl You have been warned and given multiple opportunities to address this issue, but you have not taken action. This is the fifth report. These are not random abuse reports; they consistently involve the same child pornography images. It is your responsibility to monitor and maintain a fraud-free platform.

  • child porn worse scum ever @wangyuidl gtfo

  • zedzed Member

    I can't even imagine trying to run a free image site, what a hassle man.

  • @NDTN said:
    @wangyuidl You have been warned and given multiple opportunities to address this issue, but you have not taken action. This is the fifth report. These are not random abuse reports; they consistently involve the same child pornography images. It is your responsibility to monitor and maintain a fraud-free platform.

    1. Today is the 4th (not 5th) report.
      Screenshot 2025 05 28 110531
    2. I always try to handle the problem as quickly as possible, with the large number of photos, I can't scan and delete in just 1 day, why do you say I don't take action?
    3. I don't support violated contents, but vandals are always faster than defenders
  • @cybertech said:
    child porn worse scum ever @wangyuidl gtfo

    yes, my fault

  • They gave you 4 strikes that one more than expected. Seems pretty fair to me.

    Thanked by 2lothos kkrajk
  • @vastness4594 said:
    They gave you 4 strikes that one more than expected. Seems pretty fair to me.

    Yes, it would be nice if they gave time to backup and find another provider

  • bokuyababokuyaba Member
    edited May 2025

    They gave you multiple chances, but you never took any effective action. You only deleted the data after receiving a notice. Then, when they stopped giving you chances, you started posting complaints and accusations—it's honestly laughable.

    Thanked by 2PineappleM kkrajk
  • JasonMJasonM Member

    @vastness4594 said: They gave you 4 strikes that one more than expected. Seems pretty fair to me.

    in deed. OP should have implemented more strict monitoring.
    unlike worpdress (any blog) comment section which has a feature called "moderation" where every comment needs to be manually gone through the admin/moderator before it gets published, you can implement similar feature on your file sharing site.

  • FalzoFalzo Member

    Just removing the stuff after notification is obviously not enough but you need to make changes to disallow/find this content in the first place. Your current solution is not good enough and no provider wants to deal with daily or weekly reports for the rest of your booked term.

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