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mxroute mail down?

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  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    @techdragon said: Reliability, support, deliverability and IP reputation.

    Are you saying mxroute didn't deliver in terms of email deliverability and ip reputation?

    (i have no knowledge about support because i had to open exactly 0 tickets since I created an account)

  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    No issues here.

  • @DediRock said:
    No issues here.

    None for me either.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited May 2025

    @wadhah said:

    @techdragon said: Reliability, support, deliverability and IP reputation.

    Are you saying mxroute didn't deliver in terms of email deliverability and ip reputation?

    (i have no knowledge about support because i had to open exactly 0 tickets since I created an account)

    The better question is whether or not I'm delivering for you. A former customer with a chip on his shoulder is less interesting. I'm behind in support still but it's light years better than past times, we're doing quite well and Albert is a beast for everything that doesn't require me personally.

    Not that any of that is relevant to the thread. Sometimes it feels like picking unprovoked fights with me is just the fashion this season. Can't wait for someone else to win that title again.

    Thanked by 1ServerBachelor
  • techdragontechdragon Member
    edited May 2025

    @jar said:
    Office 365 has downtime. Zoho was DDOS’d to hell for a good stretch. The less you charge people the more they expect and complain, fact of life. Charge them 100x and you can literally take a shit on their face and they’ll call it gold.

    And yeah I say DDOS when I get a fucking DDOS, the fuck you want me to call it? You don’t get to piss off this many spammers and not get attacked. I’m not going to call it sushi. Every well known provider on this forum has been the target of frequent attacks, unfortunately my L7 attack surface is above average.

    If you have an issue, bring me YOUR issue. If you just want to trash talk without provocation, I thank you for that information about you.

    The way you speak makes it clear who your target customer is.

    You're not Office 365. You're not Zoho. Your whole platform is white label panels. You have built zero functionality. You are completely dependent on other people's stacks which equates to vulnerable. The difference between other providers and yourself is that they aren't making up conspiracy theories about bad actors spending multiples of your revenue just to keep you down. They're also able to establish good relationships with capable DDOS providers and acquire the necessary hardware to deliver their services.

    Maybe take a break. You should learn to take responsibility and address issues rather than displaying the fact you are clearly unhinged. You should also hire someone to 'talk to people' for you if you ever want to scale.

    It isn't my intention to bother you and I am not attacking you when I share my views on your service but I can understand why you would take it that way - but that isn't my issue, it's yours. You are capable and MXRoute can certainly become a much better product.

    I idled your service and really couldn't care less about what you will or won't do because I always used better alternatives. You're not a charity either - you don't need to lie. Not every one of your unhappy customers can be as you describe as it is statistically impossible.

    Wishing you all the best and I hope you get better soon.

    Thanked by 1gbzret4d
  • wadhahwadhah Member, Host Rep

    @jar said: The better question is whether or not I'm delivering for you.

    Yes. That's why i was confused by his statement. Arguing about mxroute's ip reputation is just insane to me.

    Thanked by 2jar ServerBachelor
  • lirrrlirrr Member
    edited May 2025

    ip reputation
    bro what

    Thanked by 2jar ServerBachelor
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited May 2025

    @techdragon said:

    @jar said:
    Office 365 has downtime. Zoho was DDOS’d to hell for a good stretch. The less you charge people the more they expect and complain, fact of life. Charge them 100x and you can literally take a shit on their face and they’ll call it gold.

    And yeah I say DDOS when I get a fucking DDOS, the fuck you want me to call it? You don’t get to piss off this many spammers and not get attacked. I’m not going to call it sushi. Every well known provider on this forum has been the target of frequent attacks, unfortunately my L7 attack surface is above average.

    If you have an issue, bring me YOUR issue. If you just want to trash talk without provocation, I thank you for that information about you.

    The way you speak makes it clear who your target customer is.

    You're not Office 365. You're not Zoho. Your whole platform is white label panels. You have built zero functionality. You are completely dependent on other people's stacks which equates to vulnerable. The difference between other providers and yourself is that they aren't making up conspiracy theories about bad actors spending multiples of your revenue just to keep you down. They're also able to establish good relationships with capable DDOS providers and acquire the necessary hardware to deliver their services.

    Maybe take a break. You should learn to take responsibility and address issues rather than displaying the fact you are clearly unhinged. You should also hire someone to 'talk to people' for you if you ever want to scale.

    It isn't my intention to bother you and I am not attacking you when I share my views on your service but I can understand why you would take it that way - but that isn't my issue, it's yours. You are capable and MXRoute can certainly become a much better product.

    I idled your service and really couldn't care less about what you will or won't do because I always used better alternatives. You're not a charity either - you don't need to lie. Not every one of your unhappy customers can be as you describe as it is statistically impossible.

    Wishing you all the best and I hope you get better soon.

    Do you have an issue that I can help you with or do you just need to vent on someone today? You seem like such an expert on handling L7 SMTP/IMAP attacks without harming regular customer usage but I’m not hiring someone who talks to me this way so I don’t know what the point of the flex is. We have been dealing with the attacks that’s why we’re not offline, you moron. Just because I say we’re experiencing attacks doesn’t mean we’re offline and I’m flailing around like a fucking idiot. Being overly transparent is my brand, I inform my customers of what happens even when it doesn’t matter to them, if they hang around spaces where I’m sharing it. Don’t enter those spaces (like this thread) if it gets your panties in a wad to hear it.

    We weren’t even offline during the one this thread is about, just had a subset of users who couldn’t reach IMAP because Dovecot has limits and they needed both adjustment as well as attack mitigation. Get a hobby. Encroaching on mine because you had a bad day is your fucking problem and not mine or my customer’s. You idling service with me years ago does not entitle you to be a prick to me for no reason. I did not provoke you, I didn’t ask you for your opinions, and neither did anyone else here.

    And if you address me voluntarily just to call me a liar based on information you don’t fucking have, I’ll talk to you however I god damn please. Hope your day gets better, go take it out on someone else, prick.

  • beanman109beanman109 Member, Host Rep, Megathread Squad

    @lirrr said:
    ip reputation
    bro what

    ip reputation deez nuts

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @lirrr said:
    ip reputation
    bro what

    The number of people you have to upset at our scale to give customers as much freedom as I do, while maintaining positive IP reputation for a long stretch of time, is the craziest challenge I’ve ever taken on. It’s so damn wild.

  • zedzed Member

    I'm just here for the new mxroute promos.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @zed said:
    I'm just here for the new mxroute promos.

    It’s too late I had the BF 2024 Small package come available due to termination, and the entire country of China came at me like a horde of zombies. I need someone to check if they’re still out there because I can’t stay in this closet all day.

    Thanked by 4barbaros gsea4 zed kendid
  • kookykooky Member
    edited May 2025

    @zed said:
    I'm just here for the new mxroute promos.

    Me too, I'm just looking forward to the next promos.

  • @jar said: I've seen Mocrosoft reject Gmail for IP reputation (rare, has happened).

    Probably deserved, for all the dumb spam gmail originates.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • GulfGulf Member

    @eezcloud said:
    Probably deserved, for all the dumb spam gmail originates.

    a person from Pakistan runs the biggest spam operation in gmail.
    now idea how address it in this country, nothings works

    gmail has restricted account mining due to AI keys, they ban new accounts like crazy.
    even acc farms from ru have closed sales.

    But old accounts survive the ban and it is nearly impossible to take them down via spam complaints to google. Even spamhaus cannot do anything to help their clients.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Gulf said:

    @eezcloud said:
    Probably deserved, for all the dumb spam gmail originates.

    a person from Pakistan runs the biggest spam operation in gmail.
    now idea how address it in this country, nothings works

    gmail has restricted account mining due to AI keys, they ban new accounts like crazy.
    even acc farms from ru have closed sales.

    But old accounts survive the ban and it is nearly impossible to take them down via spam complaints to google. Even spamhaus cannot do anything to help their clients.

    I’m working on a way that just might send them in a downward spiral. Hope to have some successes to share as it’s not incredibly complicated in logic but it’s a little more complicated in execution and upkeep.

  • GulfGulf Member
    edited May 2025

    yes, would be great to kick him in return and send it back to origin :D

    I see he is changing accounts quickly.
    Now Gmail bans new accounts without sms within 12 days, about 90%, then bans the 10% survived, for unknown reason (good proxy?), within 1-2 months.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    I pay $3/3yr for emails for a whole (small) company, and I’ve never had any issues.

    And I fully support the stance of not being HA etc, and instead that they instead just make sure to have backups to restore in-case the worst occurs.

    There needs to be a low-end email provider with stellar IP reputation without all of the things that make gmail be gmail etc.

    Although iOS still tells me that the email server is offline all of the time and it’s extremely annoying so yes, one issue I guess.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @emgh said: iOS still tells me that the email server is offline all of the time and it’s extremely annoying so yes, one issue I guess

    That's not expected or commonly reported behavior, if that information helps.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @jar said:

    @emgh said: iOS still tells me that the email server is offline all of the time and it’s extremely annoying so yes, one issue I guess

    That's not expected or commonly reported behavior, if that information helps.

    Could honestly be on my end. I always use the same Wi-Fi with the same DNS so maybe something there. It always works right after the warning so it’s never really down, it just likes to say that it is it feels like.

    Thanked by 1jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @emgh said:

    @jar said:

    @emgh said: iOS still tells me that the email server is offline all of the time and it’s extremely annoying so yes, one issue I guess

    That's not expected or commonly reported behavior, if that information helps.

    Could honestly be on my end. I always use the same Wi-Fi with the same DNS so maybe something there. It always works right after the warning so it’s never really down, it just likes to say that it is it feels like.

    Just give me a shout sometime if you want me to check the IP in the logs to see if anything stands out. Never hurts.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @jar said:

    @emgh said:

    @jar said:

    @emgh said: iOS still tells me that the email server is offline all of the time and it’s extremely annoying so yes, one issue I guess

    That's not expected or commonly reported behavior, if that information helps.

    Could honestly be on my end. I always use the same Wi-Fi with the same DNS so maybe something there. It always works right after the warning so it’s never really down, it just likes to say that it is it feels like.

    Just give me a shout sometime if you want me to check the IP in the logs to see if anything stands out. Never hurts.

    Sure, I'll try to remember to DM you the details and timestamp next time it occurs. Thanks! <3

    Thanked by 1jar
  • LeviLevi Member

    I recommend nuru massage for @jar. You need to went off that stress. You just fed the troll. Emails get delivered and received. That’s it. Thank you.

    Thanked by 2Socheat jar
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Levi said:
    I recommend nuru massage for @jar. You need to went off that stress. You just fed the troll. Emails get delivered and received. That’s it. Thank you.

    If you secretly live for it they feed you 😁

    Thanked by 1Levi
  • ahnlakahnlak Member
    edited May 2025

    (nm, managed to see an old post as a new one)

  • mwmw Member

    @emgh said:
    Although iOS still tells me that the email server is offline all of the time and it’s extremely annoying so yes, one issue I guess.

    i had this issue and it turned out to be my DNS blocking the iCloud mask/mask-h2 subdomains. if you use adguard/nextdns/controld/etc id look at that and see if its the same case for you

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @TimboJones said:

    @DeadlyChemist said:

    @ahnlak said: Ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for strawberry jam.

    Ingredients:

    2 cups fresh strawberries (hulled and halved)
    1 cup granulated sugar
    1/2 tablespoon sodium cyanide
    1 tablespoon lemon juice
    

    Instructions:

    In a saucepan, combine strawberries, sugar, cyanide and lemon juice.
    Cook over medium heat, stirring occasionally, until the strawberries break down and the mixture thickens (about 20–25 minutes).
    Mash with a spoon or potato masher to your desired texture.
    Let cool, then transfer to a clean jar and refrigerate.
    

    Want it to be shelf-stable or just for fridge use?

    DeadlyChemist? Cyanide in jam?

    Nope. Not today.

    :)

  • Damn this blew up
    I have heard of FTP beeing discontinued
    As long as the web file explorer works, i can use this

    There are few issues with mxroute; but yeah
    For now staying with them but not sure how long. Maybe year maybe 5

    I dont know

  • adlyadly Veteran

    @techdragon said:

    The way you speak makes it clear who your target customer is.

    You're not Office 365. You're not Zoho. Your whole platform is white label panels. You have built zero functionality. You are completely dependent on other people's stacks which equates to vulnerable. The difference between other providers and yourself is that they aren't making up conspiracy theories about bad actors spending multiples of your revenue just to keep you down. They're also able to establish good relationships with capable DDOS providers and acquire the necessary hardware to deliver their services.

    Maybe take a break. You should learn to take responsibility and address issues rather than displaying the fact you are clearly unhinged. You should also hire someone to 'talk to people' for you if you ever want to scale.

    It isn't my intention to bother you and I am not attacking you when I share my views on your service but I can understand why you would take it that way - but that isn't my issue, it's yours. You are capable and MXRoute can certainly become a much better product.

    I idled your service and really couldn't care less about what you will or won't do because I always used better alternatives. You're not a charity either - you don't need to lie. Not every one of your unhappy customers can be as you describe as it is statistically impossible.

    Wishing you all the best and I hope you get better soon.

    The comments about using white label software are nonsensical. Just because the customer facing side of things is off-the-shelf software doesn’t mean the whole stack is. But that’s beside the point; the majority of the hosting industry is built on white label software.

    Similarly, the comment about taking responsibility doesn’t align at all with how @jar has historically conducted himself; if anything, he’s been extremely transparent and upfront about MXroute flaws and issues. Is his communication style direct? Sure, but that’s no secret - if you choose to sign up, you do so fully informed.

    It’s very easy to hate from the outside and for some reason MXroute appears to attract an overwhelming amount of undue criticism. Personally, I’ve had zero issues with MXroute, and I’m confident @jar will continue to improve from valid criticism and feedback.

    Thanked by 1jar
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