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  • @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:
    The pricing did say everything before you order. They have taken on a lot of clients (more than expected) had to do massive upgrades, still selling these deals taking a lot of orders loading more on to the nodes because maybe there is free disk space with no regard for the CPU, network or ram possibly.

    It is better to pay a little more and have it stable than go for the cheapest server you can find and daily have a complaint of it being down.

    Long term you waste more in time and energy sending tickets, posting on forums and messing around rebooting, than if you paid a little more and had a smooth server.

    What price do you think is "a little more"? Tell me more, please. Maybe 1$?

    You get what you pay for, these prices hardware will be pushed to it’s limits to just about cover costs.

    It might not be right away but the amount of sales, there have been upgrades already but money from sales will be gone and nothing left.

    You only need to read the threads to see some people are not happy not being able to do simple tasks, going for the cheapest is not always the cheapest because if it all goes offline, after the protection period you could lose out.

    Normally better to pay what is the fair price and have a server that will be there until the end of the period paid for

    Still waiting...

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    @Gearsome said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:
    The pricing did say everything before you order. They have taken on a lot of clients (more than expected) had to do massive upgrades, still selling these deals taking a lot of orders loading more on to the nodes because maybe there is free disk space with no regard for the CPU, network or ram possibly.

    It is better to pay a little more and have it stable than go for the cheapest server you can find and daily have a complaint of it being down.

    Long term you waste more in time and energy sending tickets, posting on forums and messing around rebooting, than if you paid a little more and had a smooth server.

    What price do you think is "a little more"? Tell me more, please. Maybe 1$?

    You get what you pay for, these prices hardware will be pushed to it’s limits to just about cover costs.

    It might not be right away but the amount of sales, there have been upgrades already but money from sales will be gone and nothing left.

    You only need to read the threads to see some people are not happy not being able to do simple tasks, going for the cheapest is not always the cheapest because if it all goes offline, after the protection period you could lose out.

    Normally better to pay what is the fair price and have a server that will be there until the end of the period paid for

    Still waiting...

    And what are you waiting for ?

  • GearsomeGearsome Member
    edited April 2025

    @xHosts said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:
    The pricing did say everything before you order. They have taken on a lot of clients (more than expected) had to do massive upgrades, still selling these deals taking a lot of orders loading more on to the nodes because maybe there is free disk space with no regard for the CPU, network or ram possibly.

    It is better to pay a little more and have it stable than go for the cheapest server you can find and daily have a complaint of it being down.

    Long term you waste more in time and energy sending tickets, posting on forums and messing around rebooting, than if you paid a little more and had a smooth server.

    What price do you think is "a little more"? Tell me more, please. Maybe 1$?

    You get what you pay for, these prices hardware will be pushed to it’s limits to just about cover costs.

    It might not be right away but the amount of sales, there have been upgrades already but money from sales will be gone and nothing left.

    You only need to read the threads to see some people are not happy not being able to do simple tasks, going for the cheapest is not always the cheapest because if it all goes offline, after the protection period you could lose out.

    Normally better to pay what is the fair price and have a server that will be there until the end of the period paid for

    Still waiting...

    And what are you waiting for ?

    "What price do you think is 'a little more'? Tell me more, please. Maybe 1$?"

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:
    The pricing did say everything before you order. They have taken on a lot of clients (more than expected) had to do massive upgrades, still selling these deals taking a lot of orders loading more on to the nodes because maybe there is free disk space with no regard for the CPU, network or ram possibly.

    It is better to pay a little more and have it stable than go for the cheapest server you can find and daily have a complaint of it being down.

    Long term you waste more in time and energy sending tickets, posting on forums and messing around rebooting, than if you paid a little more and had a smooth server.

    What price do you think is "a little more"? Tell me more, please. Maybe 1$?

    You get what you pay for, these prices hardware will be pushed to it’s limits to just about cover costs.

    It might not be right away but the amount of sales, there have been upgrades already but money from sales will be gone and nothing left.

    You only need to read the threads to see some people are not happy not being able to do simple tasks, going for the cheapest is not always the cheapest because if it all goes offline, after the protection period you could lose out.

    Normally better to pay what is the fair price and have a server that will be there until the end of the period paid for

    Still waiting...

    And what are you waiting for ?

    "What price do you think is 'a little more'? Tell me more, please. Maybe 1$?"

    There is no one fit all answer to this, it depends on

    Your use purpose of the service
    Locations (can vary a lot)
    What is included, version of CPU, type of drives (SSD/NVME)
    Bandwidth/Speeds

    Just by these prices it will stand out to most people that the provider will be putting too many on the node to cover the costs of power, ip's and bandwidth

    The main 2 scenarios on this offer

    1 - They will keep putting more on already oversold services
    2 - They will disappear before the 4 years as promised because of the costs

    Overall, It will look cheap but long term it won't be when you cost in the amount of time you spend reporting issues, posting threads/comments about issues

    It is far better to order from a provider you may think of as expensive but long term you are not reporting issues every week, suits your needs and if you have an issue you get a reply and fix in a reasonable timeframe

  • zedzed Member

    Expectations, manage them.

  • @xHosts said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:
    The pricing did say everything before you order. They have taken on a lot of clients (more than expected) had to do massive upgrades, still selling these deals taking a lot of orders loading more on to the nodes because maybe there is free disk space with no regard for the CPU, network or ram possibly.

    It is better to pay a little more and have it stable than go for the cheapest server you can find and daily have a complaint of it being down.

    Long term you waste more in time and energy sending tickets, posting on forums and messing around rebooting, than if you paid a little more and had a smooth server.

    What price do you think is "a little more"? Tell me more, please. Maybe 1$?

    You get what you pay for, these prices hardware will be pushed to it’s limits to just about cover costs.

    It might not be right away but the amount of sales, there have been upgrades already but money from sales will be gone and nothing left.

    You only need to read the threads to see some people are not happy not being able to do simple tasks, going for the cheapest is not always the cheapest because if it all goes offline, after the protection period you could lose out.

    Normally better to pay what is the fair price and have a server that will be there until the end of the period paid for

    Still waiting...

    And what are you waiting for ?

    "What price do you think is 'a little more'? Tell me more, please. Maybe 1$?"

    There is no one fit all answer to this, it depends on

    Your use purpose of the service
    Locations (can vary a lot)
    What is included, version of CPU, type of drives (SSD/NVME)
    Bandwidth/Speeds

    Just by these prices it will stand out to most people that the provider will be putting too many on the node to cover the costs of power, ip's and bandwidth

    The main 2 scenarios on this offer

    1 - They will keep putting more on already oversold services
    2 - They will disappear before the 4 years as promised because of the costs

    Overall, It will look cheap but long term it won't be when you cost in the amount of time you spend reporting issues, posting threads/comments about issues

    It is far better to order from a provider you may think of as expensive but long term you are not reporting issues every week, suits your needs and if you have an issue you get a reply and fix in a reasonable timeframe

    The answer is still not acceptable. You still haven't given a price which tries to compete with $0.49/month for 4 years.
    And what makes no sense or respect is to get into another provider's thread and throw all this.

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider

    The answer is still not acceptable. You still haven't given a price which tries to compete with $0.49/month for 4 years.
    And what makes no sense or respect is to get into another provider's thread and throw all this.

    It makes perfect sense, maybe you want me to commit to prices without knowing your requirements which makes no sense.

    Most of your comments on this forum are complaining about providers, you bought this offer which is either going to be unsustainable or very poor quality (possibly both)

    It makes sense to know what you need and not go for the cheapest option then hit out at people who point this out that yes they are offering it at $0.49 a month but have not stated what you need or want other than the cheapest.

    Providers need to know this or you sign up to their standard offers and take what is offered but paying prices such as this you cannot expect much if they happen to honour the 4 years you signed up for in reality you can expect this quality.

  • @xHosts said:

    The answer is still not acceptable. You still haven't given a price which tries to compete with $0.49/month for 4 years.
    And what makes no sense or respect is to get into another provider's thread and throw all this.

    It makes perfect sense, maybe you want me to commit to prices without knowing your requirements which makes no sense.

    Most of your comments on this forum are complaining about providers, you bought this offer which is either going to be unsustainable or very poor quality (possibly both)

    It makes sense to know what you need and not go for the cheapest option then hit out at people who point this out that yes they are offering it at $0.49 a month but have not stated what you need or want other than the cheapest.

    Providers need to know this or you sign up to their standard offers and take what is offered but paying prices such as this you cannot expect much if they happen to honour the 4 years you signed up for in reality you can expect this quality.

    Which sense??
    "And what makes no sense or respect is to get into another provider's thread and throw all this."

    Are you so disrespectful or maybe a bit slow?
    Don't you have rent prices on your website or something? You don't need to know any requirement... And my problems with my providers are my own.

    Please, don't try to promote yourself on another provider's thread. That's inappropriate. Don't you think?

  • xHostsxHosts Member, Patron Provider
    edited April 2025

    Which sense??
    "And what makes no sense or respect is to get into another provider's thread and throw all this."

    Are you so disrespectful or maybe a bit slow?
    Don't you have rent prices on your website or something? You don't need to know any requirement... And my problems with my providers are my own.

    Please, don't try to promote yourself on another provider's thread. That's inappropriate. Don't you think?

    What have I promoted? I have stated clear facts of buying or choosing a provider. Have I said you can visit my site at …. ? No

    As for requirements, you may have very low needs and possibly a older CPU would give you what you need at a lower price or you may need something very powerful because you need something very high end to run a large application.

    Without knowing your needs its hard to say what package would be best for your needs, that is why asking these questions is needed.

    You are saying problems with a provider are your own on a public forum in which anyone is allowed to comment their view.

  • @xHosts said:

    Which sense??
    "And what makes no sense or respect is to get into another provider's thread and throw all this."

    Are you so disrespectful or maybe a bit slow?
    Don't you have rent prices on your website or something? You don't need to know any requirement... And my problems with my providers are my own.

    Please, don't try to promote yourself on another provider's thread. That's inappropriate. Don't you think?

    What have I promoted? I have stated clear facts of buying or choosing a provider. Have I said you can visit my site at …. ? No

    As for requirements, you may have very low needs and possibly a older CPU would give you what you need at a lower price or you may need something very powerful because you need something very high end to run a large application.

    Without knowing your needs its hard to say what package would be best for your needs, that is why asking these questions is needed.

    You are saying problems with a provider are your own on a public forum in which anyone is allowed to comment their view.

    OMG. Really?
    I said "Don't TRY to" not "Don't promote". Are you kidding??

    And I share my problems with users of my same provider, who have the same issues. But what's your problem?

    Sorry. This conversation ends here. It does not reach the minimum acceptable level.

    It's over.

  • is it Ipv6 available ?

  • @slennnox said:
    is it Ipv6 available ?

    Don't buy this VPS, don't buy it, it falls a lot, read the comments, I don't recommend it.

  • zedzed Member
    edited April 2025

    @slennnox said:
    is it Ipv6 available ?

    No ipv6 on my instances, I use he.net tunnels with these.

    @sucre13 said:
    Don't buy this VPS, don't buy it, it falls a lot, read the comments, I don't recommend it.

    49 cents!!

  • nstormnstorm Member
    edited April 2025

    @zed said: 49 cents!!

    It's $23.98 payment actually. If they go deadpool earlier than your 4yr paid plan ends, without refunds on the remaining services, you'll have to reconsider how much per month you've really paid.

    Thanked by 2EnzVps jhsvfNVME
  • devzdevz Member

    >

    @Gearsome said: $0.49/month for 4 years.

    At this point this is just a promise (that the service will actually live another 3.5 years). If they close shop in a couple of months, the total cost per month will be much higher.

    Thanked by 2Gearsome EnzVps
  • zedzed Member

    @nstorm said: It's $23.98 payment actually. If they go deadpool earlier than your 4yr paid plan ends, without refunds on the remaining services, you'll have to reconsider how much per month you've really paid.

    I only bet on a year, there's no way these plans live for 4 years. Either grid disappears or people get a dear john letter about plans unsustainable have to cut off yadda yadda.

    Thanked by 1gbzret4d
  • xam60xam60 Member

    I canceled my two VPS because it is unusable.
    They deleted them but refuse to refund the remaining time. It is in the contract. I didn't know about that point, now I have nothing.
    Bad experience unfortunately, I think the servers are oversell. It got worst and worst

  • ---------------------------------
    ISP        : Massivegrid LTD
    ASN        : AS49683 MASSIVEGRID LTD
    Host       : MassiveGRID
    Location   : Frankfurt am Main, Hesse (HE)
    Country    : Germany
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda3):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 3.86 MB/s      (967) | 35.34 MB/s     (552)
    Write      | 3.88 MB/s      (971) | 35.61 MB/s     (556)
    Total      | 7.75 MB/s     (1.9k) | 70.96 MB/s    (1.1k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 118.80 MB/s    (232) | 126.92 MB/s    (123)
    Write      | 125.11 MB/s    (244) | 135.38 MB/s    (132)
    Total      | 243.92 MB/s    (476) | 262.30 MB/s    (255)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 680 Mbits/sec   | 618 Mbits/sec   | 14.4 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 771 Mbits/sec   | 449 Mbits/sec   | 8.53 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 624 Mbits/sec   | 367 Mbits/sec   | 103 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 508 Mbits/sec   | 436 Mbits/sec   | --
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 592 Mbits/sec   | 306 Mbits/sec   | 146 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 657 Mbits/sec   | 130 Mbits/sec   | 83.1 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 456 Mbits/sec   | 188 Mbits/sec   | 206 ms
    
    Geekbench 4 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 938
    Multi Core      | 870
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/18670263
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 153
    Multi Core      | 147
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/23485284
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 142
    Multi Core      | 142
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/11593401
    
    YABS completed in 87 min 11 sec
    
  • PineappleMPineappleM Member
    edited April 2025

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:

    @Gearsome said:

    @xHosts said:
    The pricing did say everything before you order. They have taken on a lot of clients (more than expected) had to do massive upgrades, still selling these deals taking a lot of orders loading more on to the nodes because maybe there is free disk space with no regard for the CPU, network or ram possibly.

    It is better to pay a little more and have it stable than go for the cheapest server you can find and daily have a complaint of it being down.

    Long term you waste more in time and energy sending tickets, posting on forums and messing around rebooting, than if you paid a little more and had a smooth server.

    What price do you think is "a little more"? Tell me more, please. Maybe 1$?

    You get what you pay for, these prices hardware will be pushed to it’s limits to just about cover costs.

    It might not be right away but the amount of sales, there have been upgrades already but money from sales will be gone and nothing left.

    You only need to read the threads to see some people are not happy not being able to do simple tasks, going for the cheapest is not always the cheapest because if it all goes offline, after the protection period you could lose out.

    Normally better to pay what is the fair price and have a server that will be there until the end of the period paid for

    Still waiting...

    And what are you waiting for ?

    "What price do you think is 'a little more'? Tell me more, please. Maybe 1$?"

    There is no one fit all answer to this, it depends on

    Your use purpose of the service
    Locations (can vary a lot)
    What is included, version of CPU, type of drives (SSD/NVME)
    Bandwidth/Speeds

    Just by these prices it will stand out to most people that the provider will be putting too many on the node to cover the costs of power, ip's and bandwidth

    The main 2 scenarios on this offer

    1 - They will keep putting more on already oversold services
    2 - They will disappear before the 4 years as promised because of the costs

    Overall, It will look cheap but long term it won't be when you cost in the amount of time you spend reporting issues, posting threads/comments about issues

    It is far better to order from a provider you may think of as expensive but long term you are not reporting issues every week, suits your needs and if you have an issue you get a reply and fix in a reasonable timeframe

    The answer is still not acceptable. You still haven't given a price which tries to compete with $0.49/month for 4 years.
    And what makes no sense or respect is to get into another provider's thread and throw all this.

    He hasn’t given a price that competes because that price ($0.49/mo) does not cover all the bills for hosting that server. There is no competing at that low of a price point. Even Racknerd doesn’t go that low on Black Friday sales and they are about as rock bottom as you can go with a VPS, with the bonus that they have a robust reliable business that isn’t going to Deadpool overnight.

    The floor for most hosts is $1/mo or $12/yr for a reason. IPv4, bandwidth, electricity, etc all cost something to every provider. Even the legendary $7/yr VPS (which is still above $0.49/mo) is a loss leader that hopes to encourage the client to purchase more expensive plans from the provider.

    I personally never buy more than 1 year from any provider unless they are well-established, and always pay with PayPal so I can chargeback a summer host.

  • If you open a ticket and complain about the shitty performance, massivegrid is trying to sell you a vds.

  • @stufently said:
    Why I dont get 4 years for all my servers ?
    MG2024111105213488
    MG2025022806111329
    MG202502280617152
    MG2025022806495067
    MG202502280654327
    MG2025022806585517
    MG2025022807074914
    MG2025022814442041
    MG2025022814462998
    MG2025022814495341
    MG2025022814521447

    I wrote order for each server here before

    @MassiveGRID can you check it please ?

  • @stufently said:

    @stufently said:
    Why I dont get 4 years for all my servers ?
    MG2024111105213488
    MG2025022806111329
    MG202502280617152
    MG2025022806495067
    MG202502280654327
    MG2025022806585517
    MG2025022807074914
    MG2025022814442041
    MG2025022814462998
    MG2025022814495341
    MG2025022814521447

    I wrote order for each server here before

    @MassiveGRID can you check it please ?

    They are scammers.

  • How's the hosting guys?

  • Is London safe now?

  • @zed said:
    I'm no longer having any issues worth noting. Performance in general isn't great but it's essentially what I expected for my pennies a day. The UDP shittery has been cleared up for 4-5 days now which was my primary complaint.

    I have service in London & Frankfurt.

    Hope the rest of you achieve satisfactory service levels.

    Is it still usable for you?
    Mine was okay for like 2-3 days and now it's even worst than before even on TCP packets as well.

  • zedzed Member
    edited April 2025

    @jhsvfNVME said: Is it still usable for you?
    Mine was okay for like 2-3 days and now it's even worst than before even on TCP packets as well.

    Frankfurt UDP gone to shit again, TCP seems ok.
    London no issues.

    Thanked by 1Gearsome
  • GearsomeGearsome Member
    edited April 2025

    @zed said:

    @jhsvfNVME said: Is it still usable for you?
    Mine was okay for like 2-3 days and now it's even worst than before even on TCP packets as well.

    Frankfurt UDP gone to shit again, TCP seems ok.
    London no issues.

    OMG again. UDP death is already palpable.

  • zedzed Member
    edited April 2025

    @zed said: Frankfurt UDP gone to shit again, TCP seems ok.
    London no issues.

    Seems to have cleared up overnight.

  • jndjnd Member

    @davide said:
    Is London safe now?

    London is worse than ever now.

  • @jnd said:

    @davide said:
    Is London safe now?

    London is worse than ever now.

    May the Queen save London

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